Cannon Soldier - The Alternate Burn V.2.0

(Article_Writer)Zell · 03-25-2005, 08:11 AM

I had to modify this deck do to an error in my previous deck. I took out the three Mind Control's and replaced them with my side-decked Dark Room of Nightmares, and another Last Will. And to replace the Dark Room of Nightmares, I added Horn of Heaven to my side-deck.

[Monsters] (15)
[1] Sangan
[1] Sinister Serpant
[1] Twin-Headed Behemoth

[3] Spirit Reaper
[3] Mystic Tomato
[3] Cannon Soldier
[3] Mecha-Dog Marron

[Spells] (19)
[1] Snatch Steal
[1] Pot of Greed
[1] Graceful Charity
[1] Premature Burial
[1] Mystical Space Typhoon
[1] Swords of Revealing Light

[2] Level Limit - Area B
[2] Messenger of Peace

[3] Last Will
[3] Scapegoat
[3] Metamorphosis

[Traps] (6)
[1] Mirror Force
[1] Torrential Tribute
[1] Sakuretsu Armor
[1] Ring of Destruction

[2] Gravity Bind

[Fusion] (3)
[3] Thousand-Eyes Restrict

[Side-Deck] (15)
[1] Exiled Force
[1] Curse of Royal

[2] Horn of Heaven
[2] My Body As A Shield

[3] Magic Jammer
[3] Solar Flare Dragon
[3] Bottomless Trap Hole

(*Edited - Took out 2 Dark Room of Nightmare's and 1 Messenger of Peace for 3 Metamorphosis. I also added 3 Thousand-Eyes Restrict's and took out a Sakuretsu Armor to make the deck 40 cards.*)

XxExiledxX · 03-25-2005, 08:43 AM

Cannon Soldier Beatdown is better:

Monsters(17)
D.D. Warrior Girl
D.D. Assailant x3
Berserk Gorilla x3
Cannon Soldier x3
Mecha-Dog Marron x3
Mystic Tomato x2
Spirit Reaper
Magician of Faith

Spells(16)
Lightning Vortex
Nobleman of Crossout
Smashing Ground
Heavy Storm
Mystical Space Typhoon
Premature Burial
Snatch Steal
Enemy Controller x2
Mind Control
Pot of Greed
Graceful Charity
Delinquent Duo
Scapegoat x2
United We Stand

Traps(7)
Ring of Destruction
Mirror Force
Call of the Haunted
Torrential Tribute
Raigeki Break
Waboku x2

(Article_Writer)Zell · 03-25-2005, 08:45 AM

I don't really want to run a Beatdown, I want to run a Stall Burn.

kenshinEtErNaL · 03-25-2005, 08:48 AM

I say scrap the Mecha Dogs for Stray Lambs. Tributing is not destroying. Other than that, not bad.

(Article_Writer)Zell · 03-25-2005, 08:55 AM

Mecha-Dog Marron is better the Stray Lambs, for one he's searchable by Last Will, and for two no matter what if he's destroyed by an effect he deals 1000 dmg to my opponent.

kazujin · 04-01-2005, 01:13 PM

- TT
- 2 Sakeretsu Armor

+3 Wave Motion Cannon

You will never have enough ammo to launch in order to beat your opponent , so you need a secondary way to burn dow the life points of your opponent. 3 Wave Motion Cannons can do that and it will protect you major stall cards.

EVO KAI · 04-01-2005, 02:34 PM

Very nice. 9/10.

(Article_Writer)Zell · 04-01-2005, 02:36 PM

That may be true, but I'd rather not get rid of Torrential Tribute. I was testing this deck the other day on YVD(dunno how to use the side-deck and lsot to my weakness) and TT allowed me to tie the game when it hit Mecha-Dog Marron.

I was at 1500 lp my opponent was at 2200, he activated call of the haunted on Tribe-Infecting Virus, and I activate Torrential Trbiute. He then activated Ring of Destruction on Tribe, dealing me and him 1600 damage(chain activates in reverse order), now TT activates hitting Mecha-Dog Marron, dealing him another 1000 damage for a tied game.

_Confucious_ · 04-01-2005, 06:21 PM

Hm...Nice deck...I may run it at Regionals.

00017 · 04-01-2005, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Confucious_

Hm...Nice deck...I may run it at Regionals.

don't net.deck! use your own ideas!

Sorry, great deck Zell. I found Penguin Soldier in 3's really helped a deck like this, but you may be alright by yourself. 8/10 good job again.

Makuku · 04-01-2005, 06:53 PM

Interesting. It's nice to see a Burn deck that isn't "Stealth Bird, 1000, give ya Lava Golem, Flip Des Kaola, Solar Flarex2 hits you for 1000 at my phase, you take 1000 from Lava, Ring your lava, boom." and what not.

Venvengence211 · 04-01-2005, 07:41 PM

I like this deck very good and a tip for Exiled, everybody runs D.D. Assailants that has them doesn't mean it's that good of a card, it's like the following lambs to the slaughter persae, originality is good, and kind of fun. (sorry had to make that comment, it gets old when everyone runs the same cards.) You'll have enough ammo with three scapegoats the behemoth, the serpent etc. (might try Phoenix but you use a lot of continuous spell/trap cards so just a thought of mine there.) I would suggest possibly a Wave Motion Cannon possibly like 2 maybe but that's up to you that's my preference. C ya

The Bat-Man · 04-01-2005, 09:15 PM

I'd try Wave-Motion Cannons.

Other than that, it looks fine.

Art_of_camelot · 04-01-2005, 10:12 PM

The deck looks pretty solid but i dont think mecha-dog maron works with cannon soldier's effect. Mecha-dog marron is not destroyed as a result of cannon soldier's effect; he is being tributed due to cannon soldier's effect. According to UDE tributing a monster is not considered destroying the monster, so cards that specify (when destroyed) do not get their effect when tributed. Due to the wording of both cards that was the conclusion I came to.

`Phenom · 04-01-2005, 10:17 PM

Camelot is correct. Mecha Dog doesn't work with Cannon.Replace them.

(Article_Writer)Zell · 04-01-2005, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by realshinobi

Camelot is correct. Mecha Dog doesn't work with Cannon.Replace them.

Actually if you read Mecha-Dog Marron's effect you'd realize that you do get the ability. His effect states that if he is destroyed as a result of battle, both players take 1000 damage, but if he is sent to the graveyard except by battle your opponent takes 1000 damage.

"When this card on the field is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard as a result of battle, inflict 1000 points of damage to both players'' Life Points. When this card on the field is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard except as a result of battle, inflict 1000 points of damage to your opponent''s Life Points."

Which basically means, if he goes from the field to the graveyard except by battle, then you deal 1000 damage to your opponent.

Never4everold · 04-01-2005, 10:43 PM

DESTROYED and sent to the field.

SACKING IS NOT DESTROYING!! :mad:

Been there done that, though I'm rather happy someone else besides me has discovered the usefulness of Mecha-doggs.

(Article_Writer)Zell · 04-01-2005, 10:45 PM

Whatever, screw this deck. Back to the drawing boards.... I hate my life.

Never4everold · 04-01-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by (Article_Writer)Zell

Whatever, screw this deck. Back to the drawing boards.... I hate my life.

Well that's too bad, your deck was really coming along. Sucks that you gave up on it so soon.

n2thez · 04-01-2005, 11:25 PM

[1] Sangan
[1] Sinister Serpant
[1] Twin-Headed Behemoth

[3] Spirit Reaper
[3] Mystic Tomato
[3] Cannon Soldier
[3] Mecha-Dog Marron

[Spells] (19)
[1] Snatch Steal
[1] Pot of Greed
[1] Graceful Charity
[1] Premature Burial
[1] Mystical Space Typhoon
[1] Swords of Revealing Light

[2] Level Limit - Area B
[2] Messenger of Peace

[3] Last Will
[3] Scapegoat
[3] Metamorphosis

[Traps] (6)
[1] Mirror Force
[1] Torrential Tribute
[1] Sakuretsu Armor
[1] Ring of Destruction

u should add in some thunder dragons.. not to atk w/.. to morph into reaper of nightmare.. its a good card in stall

could u r/f the bottom deck

clownboy316 · 04-01-2005, 11:47 PM

Just to make sure that everyone is completely clear, tributing and merely sending to the graveyard and destroying are all different things. Twin Headed Behemoth will not come back if it is offered as a tribute with cannon soldiers effect, neither will mecha dog maron.

Art_of_camelot · 04-02-2005, 10:50 AM

look, its not that bad of a deck, it's very original and I personally like it alot. Before you dismantle this deck, here's a suggestion.
-3 mecha-dog marron
+3 peten the dark clown
Peten should serve as a decent replacement.
Peten the dark clown
3 stars
dark/spell caster

When this card is sent to your Graveyard, you can remove this card from the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Peten the Dark Clown" from your hand or Deck.

Peten would do several things in this deck;
1. good synergy with mystic tomatoes and last will
2. serves as a defensive wall if nesecary
3. can fire 3 petens off in a row with cannon soldier for 1500 dmg
4. serves as anti-hand disruption

Aditionallly if you're running morph you could put in different dimension dragon as he works well with last will and morph both.

(Article_Writer)Zell · 04-02-2005, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Art_of_camelot

look, its not that bad of a deck, it's very original and I personally like it alot. Before you dismantle this deck, here's a suggestion.
-3 mecha-dog marron
+3 peten the dark clown
Peten should serve as a decent replacement.
Peten the dark clown
3 stars
dark/spell caster

When this card is sent to your Graveyard, you can remove this card from the Graveyard to Special Summon 1 "Peten the Dark Clown" from your hand or Deck.

Peten would do several things in this deck;
1. good synergy with mystic tomatoes and last will
2. serves as a defensive wall if nesecary
3. can fire 3 petens off in a row with cannon soldier for 1500 dmg
4. serves as anti-hand disruption

Aditionallly if you're running morph you could put in different dimension dragon as he works well with last will and morph both.

Ok, here's something I do no. Peten won't work! He has to be sent to the graveyard in the last part of the chain. In this he is sent as the first, then you deal 500 damage. So you can't get out multiples of Peten.

duende29 · 04-02-2005, 05:05 PM

I think you can, just not in a single chain. With Cannon Soldier on the field:

1. Summon Peten#1.
2. Tribute Peten#1 with Cannon.
3. Remove Peten#1 from Graveyard and special summon Peten#2.
4. Tribute Peten#2 with Cannon.
5. Remove Peten#2 from Graveyard and special summon Peten#3.
6. Tribute Peten#3 with Cannon.

1500 damage. Why not?

And maybe...

7. Activate Return from the Different Dimension.
8. Tribute 3 Petens for another 1500?

But who would like losing 1/2 LP for another 1500? Unless you win with it XD

I know! I know!

9. Before tributing, activate Ceasefire.

So that would be at least 2000... Plus 500 of tributing Cannon Soldier... 5500 effect damage XD

Bleh I'm just daydreaming ='(

smt6669 · 04-02-2005, 05:19 PM

peten wont work it has to be the last thing done to get its effect and the last thing to happen would be the lp damage