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Old 07-12-2011, 11:39 PM   #1
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This card's effects can only be applied or activated while it has Xyz Material. This card cannot be destroyed by card effects. At the end of the Battle Phase, if this card attacked or was attacked, Target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy the target. During each of your End Phases, Detach 1 Xyz Material from this card.
This card along with Xyz Veil, the new TCG promo for GENF, can really make an impact in the game if you can get him out easily. With Veil already face-up, Xyz summoning this card along with no having it negated means you got an nigh-unstoppable monster for two turns. Not even counter traps like Divine Wrath or War Chariot can stop it. I'm personally going to try and make a deck around him but I'm gonna need some advice. How do others plan on running this guy?
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:35 AM   #2
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This card's effects can only be applied or activated while it has Xyz Material.
I feel is was a fair bit better when this bit only applied to it's protection effect. Otherwise, there's only one other generic rank 5 so for so people are just going to pick whichever suits their deck for the moment, no?

I'm not planning on running the guy. There's no efficient way of getting rank 5s out at the moment without wasting resources, while at the same time there are plenty of ways to do the same with lower ranks.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:48 AM   #3
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While the card is good, the same resources spent to make it could be used to on something else. And there are not many easy to summon non-Synchro Level 5 that I know, Cyber Dragon, Goldd, Silvva, The Tricky are the only ones I that I could think of.
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It's gonna be broken when dark worlds come out. Best exceed so far though, hard to summon ATM though.
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wind-up decks can take advantage of it but we need to see how that goes.
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Very easy to summon in Fabled.


Special The Tricky, make some other plays, sync for Ragin, possibly draw 2, Xyz into Tiras.
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Dark Worlds. 'Nuff said. Goldd and Sillva can come out like nothin in a Dark World deck, making him cake to summon.
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I laugh at anyone who mentions Dark World and say Tiras and Adreus are broke. Goldd and Sillva are hardly ran in Standard and the only deck you'll consistently see popping Goldds and Sillvas is the, ironically, inconsistent Cyril build.
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Except, most of the time Grapha's a better option.

Well, I DO use it in DWs, though, because it can open a zone for Zephyr.
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I laugh at anyone who mentions Dark World and say Tiras and Adreus are broke. Goldd and Sillva are hardly ran in Standard and the only deck you'll consistently see popping Goldds and Sillvas is the, ironically, inconsistent Cyril build.
My Dark World deck gets them out pretty easily. I never said Dark Worlds with Tiras and Adreus were broke, but its the deck I've found them the easiest to summon in. Between Brron, Lightning, Dealings, Fabled Raven, Cheerful Coffin, etc, I've been able to bring Goldd and Sillva out quite easily.

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Except, most of the time Grapha's a better option.

Well, I DO use it in DWs, though, because it can open a zone for Zephyr.
Tiras and Adreus are good options when you don't have Grapha in your hand, but yes I agree with you.
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My Dark World deck gets them out pretty easily. I never said Dark Worlds with Tiras and Adreus were broke, but its the deck I've found them the easiest to summon in. Between Brron, Lightning, Dealings, Fabled Raven, Cheerful Coffin, etc, I've been able to bring Goldd and Sillva out quite easily.
A Top Tier Dark World deck won't run Brron, Cheerful Coffin and the like. They are either too slow are just flat out minuses. If you want a REAL Dark World deck, I'll link you.
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A Top Tier Dark World deck won't run Brron, Cheerful Coffin and the like. They are either too slow are just flat out minuses. If you want a REAL Dark World deck, I'll link you.
I'd like to see that. I've always wanted to make a DW deck thats high-tier/top-tier level.
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I still run one Goldd and Sillva just for this option.

I was gonna take them out finally...but then I got out Tiras to save my freaking ass (I couldn't get Grapha to save my life, and they had Dragons out...).

I love my options too damn much.
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I'd like to see that. I've always wanted to make a DW deck thats high-tier/top-tier level.
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Just outta curiosity, how does Tour Guide work in that deck?
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Just outta curiosity, how does Tour Guide work in that deck?
Summon Tour Guide.

Special Broww

Xyz Summon or Bounce Broww for Grapha.
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Summon Tour Guide.

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Xyz Summon or Bounce Broww for Grapha.
Gooooooooooootcha.
Looks like a pretty kick-ass build. Good job man.
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Good card to me but stupid name, whats wrong with Protector of the Founders, Tyrus?
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Imo, Adreus is better than Tiras simply because you can use his effect right after he's summoned. The problem with Tiras is that if you've succesfully summoned him and your opponent still has backrows, chances are Tiras won't survive the battle phase to get his effect off.

Also, I can't see Xyz Veil being used competetivly. Card just isn't good.
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Good card to me but stupid name, whats wrong with Protector of the Founders, Tyrus?
Tiras is his real name. Also, I guess Kevin wanted to make biblical references.
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Good card to me but stupid name, whats wrong with Protector of the Founders, Tyrus?
What's wrong with the Sega Genesis? I like both names myself. Can't really think of any reliable ways to get this out compared to something like a Rank 4, but I think that's the point.
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Tiras is his real name. Also, I guess Kevin wanted to make biblical references.
And yet the TCG edit all the pentagrams and so forth cause their "biblical" references. Hypocrites much >_>
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And yet the TCG edit all the pentagrams and so forth cause their "biblical" references. Hypocrites much >_>
You didn't complain about the pentacles when Zeradias kept his name as "Zeradias, Herald of Heaven"?
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You didn't complain about the pentacles when Zeradias kept his name as "Zeradias, Herald of Heaven"?
How can I when I haven't heard of Pojo back then? plus I was a kid and never owned the card...I also didn't know about the wiki...

I only got back into the game when ZEXAL was released and I started watching so thats why I'm on Tyrus's case if I knew about all that then I would have complained.
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How can I when I haven't heard of Pojo back then? plus I was a kid and never owned the card...I also didn't know about the wiki...

I only got back into the game when ZEXAL was released and I started watching so thats why I'm on Tyrus's case if I knew about all that then I would have complained.
Don't make me feel old! Though, Zeradias makes me rage at the religious hypocrisy that plagues this game. Everyone that knows the bible will instantly refer "Genesis" to it. Armageddon is just a coined name for dooms day nowadays so... Eh.
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