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Old 07-10-2011, 09:23 PM   #1
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Can the monster being summoned by vayus effect be negate by warning or divine punsihment?
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Vayu's effect can be negated by Solemn Warning or Divine Punishment.

However, Vayu doesn't Banish monsters as a cost, so they could just activate it again.
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But what about the monster summoned by vayu, can it be negated by warning and divine?
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No.

Solemn Warning cannot negate a summon from a card effect, it must negate the card effect itself.

Divine Punishment cannot even negate summons, so I don't know what you're thinking there... :-/
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Vayu turbo **** the world!!!!!!!
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Vayu turbo **** the world!!!!!!!
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Do you ever read card rulings?
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No because yugiwiki isn't a good source or konami doesn't give out the right scenrio for the card effect, plus how would I. Explain to a person why warning doesn't work on vayu or the monster brought out by vayus effect?
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No because yugiwiki isn't a good source or konami doesn't give out the right scenrio for the card effect, plus how would I. Explain to a person why warning doesn't work on vayu or the monster brought out by vayus effect?
So then check the official source. Although really, that scenario in particular is explained on page 37 of the official rulebook.
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I read it ,but it doesnt give me that scenrio. So because vayu effect doesnt properly synchro summon the monster u cant warning the monster?
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So because vayu effect doesnt properly synchro summon the monster u cant warning the monster?
Your conclusion is correct but your reason is not correct.

As explained on page 37 of the rulebook:

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In other words, you cannot add effects to the chain if it has already started resolving. Vayu's effect Special Summons at resolution, which means you cannot chain an effect at this time.
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Ohhh ok I get it! So basically warning has to stop the card that summons and can't active to the monster being summoned from the resolving of a card being summon by another card effect?
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Pretty much.
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You can't chain during resolution of a chain. Vayu SS's during resolution. Therefore the SS itself can't be negated. However, Vayu's effect can, but since it doesn't remove as a cost the materials used stay in the grave and you can try again.

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Divine Wrath wouldn't do anything either.
Vayu doesn't remove monsters as a cost, so anything short of Debunk or D.D. Crow is useless against it.
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