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Old 05-17-2011, 09:41 PM   #1
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Exclamation trishula infinite loop

so yesterday i played against a fish infinite trishula loop peace of junk. and by peace of junk i mean broken! it is just insane! when he got the combo it was game over. the only way i beat it was by lucky drawing 2 bottomless and chain disapearence first turn. i won but it was still rediculously broke. super easy to set up the combo also.
so what needs to be limited or semid

i say just semi dewlerone but when librarian comes out that may not be enough

my vote is for a semi on dewlerone and a limit on fishborg or coelcanath or both.

thoughts?
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:56 PM   #2
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Dew to 2 again
Trish to 1
Librarian to 1 since it won't be seeing zero.
Fishborg at 1 is useless, less you side 3 D.D. Crow.
Coel to 1.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:12 PM   #3
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Dewloren should rot at 2 forever.


Seaking to 1, Librarian to 0.
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Old 05-17-2011, 10:22 PM   #4
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Liberian is solely responsible for the loop.

you would run out of discard fodder for fishborg with out it.

Ban T.G. Hyper Librarian

everything else can stay the same.

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Old 05-17-2011, 11:04 PM   #5
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LEAVE DEWLOREN ALONE!!! He has nothing broken about him.

Ban Symbol of Heritage for not destroying the monster when it gets bounced. Dewloren becomes fine afterwards. Hell you could loop Symbol with Brionac if he was at 3. Problem lies with Symbol.

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Fishborg to 1
Symbol Banned (Nothing except FTK's uses it.)
Librarian to 1

and the maybe formula synchron to 1 or 2. It's rather herp derp in dandyplant as well as fish and formula monarch.

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Liberian is solely responsible for the loop.

you would run out of discard fodder for fishborg with out it.
Loop still works without Librarian, just becomes a little more sacky. The +1's from Formula synchron and looping Level Eater fuels the fishborg manuvers.
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:08 PM   #6
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No one other than FTK's have uses for 3 Dew's anyway. I'm sure no one's deck dies if it goes to 2...other than than Fish FTK...

Trish to 1 obviously.

Honestly...would love to see Coelacanth banned, he only encourages OTKs at this point...
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:13 PM   #7
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dewloren to 2, seriously. Any card that can make an infinite trish loop with fish, psychics, and possibly cloudians while its a 3 shouldn't be allowed. Or just ban symbols. It doesn't matter much either way; neither of them sees any play outside of ftks
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Old 05-17-2011, 11:20 PM   #8
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If both would achieve the same result then I prefer the one that doesn't ban any cards.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:27 AM   #9
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Dewloren to 2 is a better fix than Symbols to 0. Nothing broken about Symbols whatsoever.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:41 AM   #10
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This one is easy

Ban Trishula

None of the other cards involved are degenerate.

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Unless you are considering Librarian and I think that should be ban as well.
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LEAVE DEWLOREN ALONE!!! He has nothing broken about him.



Loop still works without Librarian, just becomes a little more sacky. The +1's from Formula synchron and looping Level Eater fuels the fishborg manuvers.
How?

and formula isn't a +1 it's a one for one
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How?

and formula isn't a +1 it's a one for one
Treeborn plus Glow Up Bulb

+1
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Formula makes token/field advantage into hand advantage. That's pretty powerful.
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If it werent for a couple other key cards it wouldn't be that good but the decks that can use it get a lot out of it.
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Yeah its absolutely worthless in any deck that doesn't revolve around synching level 1 cards.
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Treeborn plus Glow Up Bulb

+1
Treeborn Frog (+1)
Glow Up Bulb (+1)

[+1 +1 = +2]

Synch Formula (-1)
Draw from Formula (+1)

[+2 -1 +1 = +2]
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Dewloren to 2. Combo is dead. Move along and let the broken stuff make Konami the money.
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Dewloren to 2. Combo is dead. Move along and let the broken stuff make Konami the money.


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Dewloren to 2. Combo is dead. Move along and let the broken stuff make Konami the money.
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Dewloren should go to 2 as an emergency list change but there are plenty of other changes that should be made: trish to 1, formula to 1, treeborn to 1
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Treeborn Frog (+1)
Glow Up Bulb (+1)

[+1 +1 = +2]

Synch Formula (-1)
Draw from Formula (+1)

[+2 -1 +1 = +2]
proving my point better then I could.
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Librarian is broken outside of this mess anyway. It's just broken. Admit it and ban it, Konami.

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and formula isn't a +1 it's a one for one
Inherently it is not, but factually speaking it is because of the fact that it's solely used with other cards that make it a plus.
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Liberian is solely responsible for the loop.

you would run out of discard fodder for fishborg with out it.

Ban T.G. Hyper Librarian

everything else can stay the same.

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seriously as if everyone ddidn't know Librarian was broken as hell as soon as he was announced.

um actually librarian isn't even out so he is not the problem. librarian just makes it better. it is dewlerone or symbol that is the problem in my opinion. actually its fishborg and formula paired together. discard one card to special a lvl 1 tuner? draw one for synchroing? too good together

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trishula will get a limit and so will librarian but the fact is that the combo cn be pulled off with 1 of each or with 1 trish and 0 librarian. dewleron is the problem. he is not broken but the way he works with Level Eater and fishborg causes huge problems
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Ban trish and librarian.
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Banlibrarian and limit/bantrishula.

Done.
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