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Old 04-15-2011, 01:40 PM   #1
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Default Convulsion of Nature = massive draws.

Convulsion of Nature
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As long as this card remains face-up on the field, both players must turn their respective Decks upside down and continue the current Duel.


Archfiend's Oath
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Once per turn you can pay 500 Life Points to declare 1 card name. Pick up the top card from your Deck and if the card name is the one you declared, add it to your hand. If not, send the card you picked up to the Graveyard.


Both players play with their deck face-up Archfiend's Oath become a +1 each turn.

Well now there will be a new player to the combo.

Gishki Diviner
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Once per turn, you can declare a card name, then reveal the top card of your Deck. If it is the declared card, add it to your hand. If not, return it to the top of your Deck.


Archfiend's Oath in monster form.

Even if Convulsion of Nature isn't out, you can still use Gishki Diviner effect to check the top card of the deck. If you call it wrong, then use Archfiend's Oath to draw it.

Gishki Chain also plays well for revealing the next 3 cards.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:42 PM   #2
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Not bad .
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Seems doable, but inconsistent. And you're having to pay 500 for oaths effect, which can add to a lot.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:48 PM   #4
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i used this when i just got back into the game. freekin halarious if you can get it off
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Another useless +1 engine? Great, just what we needed. To the pile of crap that nobody uses.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:51 PM   #6
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lol i know someone that runs Convulsion in infernities.

The card is just lulzy, there are combos with it. I think it's even involved in an otk with Reversal Quiz or something.

an otk sounds a little better than a sacky +1 every turn.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:54 PM   #7
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Convulsion of Nature gives a look on the opponent's next draw.

Archfiend's Oath doubles as two things.

Draw the card or dump it into the graveyard.

Gishki Diviner can be fetched easily by Mother Grizzly and Salvage.

If the whole setup goes off perfect, the player can max out at 6 card draws a turn.

Reversal Quiz also works perfectly with Diviner.

2 Gishki Diviner or 1 Gishki Diviner with Archfiend's Oath is a 1 draw combo each turn.
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they all say once per turn... where are you getting 6?
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lol i know someone that runs Convulsion in infernities.

The card is just lulzy, there are combos with it. I think it's even involved in an otk with Reversal Quiz or something.

an otk sounds a little better than a sacky +1 every turn.
Bring them to me. I shall publicly execute them.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:09 PM   #10
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they all say once per turn... where are you getting 6?
1 Convulsion of Nature to flip the deck.

3 Archfiend Oath

3 G. Diviner.

Activate each effect separate to draw a card. A player can get +6 each turn with this setup in the perfect conditions.

However in general +2 can be more common.
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That's too inconsistent to be used. Not a bad idea but in practice, it's horrible.
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Can you reveal already revealed cards though? Isn't this the same ruling as with Kua'ki not being able to reveal a monster if Cermonial Bell is on the field?
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Haha, I remember Archfiend/Convulsions combo being mentioned by Pojo writer, Tebezu WAAAYYYY back when, like 4-5 years ago (I was in 8th grade...now I'm a first-year student in college haha time flies).

He built some weird Hamon deck with this engine. Looked fun casually and maybe decent at locals.

If someone builds this, I'd like to see them throw in Hamon, Lord of Striking Thunder just for the lolz
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Can you reveal already revealed cards though? Isn't this the same ruling as with Kua'ki not being able to reveal a monster if Cermonial Bell is on the field?
technically convulsion doesn't reveal cards - the top card on both players deck is still treated as being 'hidden' as far as the game is concerned. Rulings for cards that have a cost of sending the top card of the deck to the grave while D.Fish is face up supports it.

I think.
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Seems doable, but inconsistent. And you're having to pay 500 for oaths effect, which can add to a lot.
Inconsistency? There's a Duality for that. You could do some crazy ****/w RML and possibly Tempest Magician.
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You can run Deepsea Diva to search and summon Diviner from the deck.
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You could set Deep Diver to place Diviner on top of the deck then draw it with Oath then use it's effect and draw again.
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convulsion combos are too inconsistent to use in a deck unless its some type of OTK type deck.
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It seems like a good idea and I remember it being used in Reversal Quiz decks....but what decks are around now that can use this card/combo to the fullest potential?
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Convulsion of Nature does not work with Reversal Quiz. The cost of Reversal Quiz sends it to the Graveyard, flipping the Deck back over again before one guesses the top card for Reversal Quiz.
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No, but it works with Gishiki

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Plus it does indirectly work with Convulsion of Nature with the inclusion of D.D. Diamond Dude.

Convulsion of Nature -> Diamond Dude-> reveal its not a spell card, send it to bottom of the deck(top), then play Reversal Quiz because you now know the card.
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The Reversal Quiz deck is like 95% spells so you probably won't guess wrong
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Maybe this combo can be more usable now since there is another Archfiend's Oath. So those novelty decks can be a little better.

But seriously, what kind of mainstream deck would bother with even a 2 card combo for a extra draw? It is too inconsistent to just throw into any deck. It is best reserved for those bizarre decks that can benefit from it. Not saying that it is particularly bad, but I don't think it will make a huge difference in the main meta.

Of course, Tier 1 isn't everything, and it makes those decks that already use this combo more consistent. But it doesn't create an entirely new decktype since it essentially is a monster version of Archfiend's Oath.
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I remember doing this in Life Equalizer OTK
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