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Old 03-18-2011, 11:00 PM   #1
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What happens in End Phase?

I assume the Veiler effect eventually runs out and the spirits run back to the hand?
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:04 PM   #2
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bumping cause I'm this guys opponent XD

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hmm, usually I assume it means till the "end of the end phase"

but i really don't know....
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Well, both effects occur at an unspecific point in the End Phase. The turn player has the chance to activate effects or resolve lingering effects. He or she may pass priority to the opponent to do the same. The opponent may pass back, and at this point the turn player must activate mandatory effects or resolve mandatory lingering conditions.

So.. Ideally, the turn player will want to take that first opportunity to activate the effect of their Spirit Monster, so that it is still negated and it remains on the field.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:09 PM   #4
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Well, turn player has the chance to activate effects or resolve lingering effects. He or she may pass priority to the opponent to do the same. The opponent may pass back, and at this point the turn player must activate mandatory effects or resolve mandatory lingering conditions.
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I'll take that as a yes. <3
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so basically, since I played effect veiler, if kitsune passes, then I pass, then kitsune's spirit monster won't go back.

then I can let veiler resolve??
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I edited with an additional comment.. My ninja speed is too great for my own good.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:13 PM   #7
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oh.....

so then, they can just activate it again....

you ninja....
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I edited with an additional comment.. My ninja speed is too great for my own good.
Wait, so since I'm turn player, I get to choose?

The card is Kinka Byo. I want that **** in my hand.
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Ok, so you want it in your hand.. And I'm assuming Joenen doesn't want it in your hand. Well, Joenen wins. Kitsune Blue, you pass priority, hoping that he uses that priority to end the effect of "Effect Veiler", but instead he can pass back and you now are forced to activate the effect of "Kinka-Byo", which is still being negated so it remains on the field.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:17 PM   #10
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I love End Phase shenanigans. ^_^
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Ok, so you want it in your hand.. And I'm assuming Joenen doesn't want it in your hand. Well, Joenen wins. Kitsune Blue, you pass priority, hoping that he uses that priority to end the effect of "Effect Veiler", but instead he can pass back and you now are forced to activate the effect of "Kinka-Byo", which is still being negated so it remains on the field.
NO.

I continue to pass priority FOREVER.

Out of spite.
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NO.

I continue to pass priority FOREVER.

Out of spite.
Would be nice if you could.
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Old 03-18-2011, 11:49 PM   #13
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WAIT, REALLY?
aww, kitsune shoulda told me.......

darn i shoulda waiteda bit longer.......
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I didn't realize until too late.

x.x

I won game 3, you won game 1, you host for rematch on game 2? ;3
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meh, waiting for you.....
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Don't be a sourpuss Joenen, it's just a game. ;3
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I'm not a puss

anyways, its fine.

just waiting.....
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I should build this format's caster deck and play joenen, shouldn't I?
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you should!

(for those interested, I beat kitsune)

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you should!

(for those interested, I beat kitsune)

Psh, only to repay me for last time.
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I will still say that SpellcasterisMan didn't conceive the telecaster build. There were many before him who had already though of it, lol
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ah that lol. he gets credit for discussion of it. I can't exactly give credit for creation of something.
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