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Old 03-15-2011, 05:21 PM   #1
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I was thinking of running this over Trap Stun since it stops my opponent from activating the selected traps as long as it stays on the field.

What I was wondering is that is there any significant reason to run Trap Stun over this card? Since in my opinion this is more useful.

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Old 03-15-2011, 05:23 PM   #2
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i summon a card
my opponent plays bottomless
oh

so it can stop 1 card from being activated.. you know what else can stop 1 card from being activated? mst because it would be destroyed

mst/variants are the best way to deal with spell/trap removal

trapstun/decree are the best cards to allow your plays to go off safely

the card you mention wants to be both, but it cant

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Old 03-15-2011, 05:25 PM   #3
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I don't see your point, since Xing Zhen Hu would prevent Bottomless from activating.

So, yes its vulnerable to S/T removal, but your opponent usually won't always have his MSTs set waiting for your Xing Zhen Hu.

Trap Stun does not protect you against spell cards, and it only lasts one turn. After that turn, if your opponent uses an MST, you have just done better than Trap Stun and saved your other S/T from it.

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Old 03-15-2011, 05:26 PM   #4
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and what happens when your opponent has 1 card facedown and its a bottomless?

i summon a monster
opponent plays bottomless
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:28 PM   #5
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i summon a card
my opponent plays bottomless
oh

so it can stop 1 card from being activated.. you know what else can stop 1 card from being activated? mst because it would be destroyed

mst/variants are the best way to deal with spell/trap removal

trapstun/decree are the best cards to allow your plays to go off safely

the card you mention wants to be both, but it cant
Xing Zhen Hu prevents two cards from being activated. It would be nice if it was up to 2 though.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:35 PM   #6
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and what happens when your opponent has 1 card facedown and its a bottomless?

i summon a monster
opponent plays bottomless
oh
'what happen', 'what happen'... if there's so many 'what happen' then every card would be useless. with so many traps and the fact people can bluff more safely now, the chances of that 'what happen' happening is actually pretty small in this format.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:37 PM   #7
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The fact that it allows you to take 2 spells and traps out of the equation when you make your plays in the future makes it worth thinking about. Its more like Cold Wave even.

Considering that there were times when I wished that my Trap Stun lasted longer, I figured that this card isnt too bad. Has anyone else had a time like that?
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I was thinking of running this over Trap Stun since it stops my opponent from activating the selected traps as long as it stays on the field.

What I was wondering is that is there any significant reason to run Trap Stun over this card? Since in my opinion this is more useful.
certain deck types would prefer stun over Xing Zhen Hu, like saber, frognarch, fish OTK etc... since all of them needs their play go off definitely.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:39 PM   #9
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'what happen', 'what happen'... if there's so many 'what happen' then every card would be useless.
Also applies in reverse. Xing Zhen Hu:

-Can't be used if there are less than two cards Set.
-Situation still risky if there are more than two cards Set.
-Vulnerable to removal.

Trap Stun's only drawback is that cards can still be Chained to it, but basically its far more versatile. That's not to say that Xing Zhen Hu doesn't have its place, but in most decks and situations you are better off with Trap Stun.
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Old 03-15-2011, 05:42 PM   #10
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Seems situational imo, or better yet a psych out card. Two spell or trap have to be face down, not to mention if they chain just one its dosen't help. This card seems better used if your know your opponent. In comparsion to Trap Stun there is no comparsion overall playability Trap Stun trumps this card
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Also applies in reverse. Xing Zhen Hu:

-Can't be used if there are less than two cards Set.
-Situation still risky if there are more than two cards Set.
-Vulnerable to removal.

Trap Stun's only drawback is that cards can still be Chained to it, but basically its far more versatile. That's not to say that Xing Zhen Hu doesn't have its place, but in most decks and situations you are better off with Trap Stun.
- less than set cards on the field occurs rarely nowadays. the very worst situation is that you seal your own S/T(to go for game of course)
- yes it is risky. but it has the advantage of sealing it as long as it is on the field
- well every card is, but the risky and reward is a breakeven to a +1.
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It's very underrated. Bad players won't know when to activate it to get the most from it.
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I threw it in a make-shift deck and it's been a very good card. Having two for the first turn generally means you have game.
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Old 03-15-2011, 06:19 PM   #14
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Only decks that effectively use it are Six Sams and Karakuri OTK.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:42 PM   #15
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And Dark Simorgh Anti-Spell Fragrance.
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:46 PM   #16
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I've seen some OCG guys use it in the side deck, but I personally wouldn't. It's a cool card though. Except I'm Chinese and I don't even know what Xing Zhen Hu is supposed to mean.
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:13 PM   #18
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I've seen some OCG guys use it in the side deck, but I personally wouldn't. It's a cool card though. Except I'm Chinese and I don't even know what Xing Zhen Hu is supposed to mean.
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Old 03-15-2011, 10:25 PM   #20
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Just use Cursed Fig duh
Eh, it seems too situational to use, because it is too slow and it can Backfire on you. It's not useless though, as the pay off is better.

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Old 03-15-2011, 10:47 PM   #21
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It means Soul Oppression Jar.

And it's only good in decks which run Dark Simorgh + Anti-Spell Fragrance.

If it had the "cards cannot be responded in response to this card's activation" clause that the replica had, it'd be good. And unfortunately for the latter, the replica only hits one card... making it a fancy Dust Tornado.

Edit: Actually, the s/t destruction baiting is pretty enticing...

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Old 03-15-2011, 11:05 PM   #22
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Considering running it in my Alien. Great thing about it is it just stays there after the targeted cards are gone so I can bounce it. Also a way of locking out Warning/Delta Crow/Book of Moon/Bottomless 'til you get an answer.
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Old 03-15-2011, 11:19 PM   #23
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Lots of people actually used this at Dallas. I think it's use has actually gone down because warning went to 2. At Dallas, as long as you protected your solemn warnings you usually had game.
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Yeah, everyone, stay away from this card, it's terrible and horrible! Stick to mst/dust/Trap Stun.
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