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Old 11-23-2010, 08:09 PM   #1
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Default Quickdraw Machina FTW

Well, I like making quickdraw variants, last variant I made was the water quickdraw and well, that deck is amazing. (you can look at it by clicking on the link in my sig) Since that deck gave such amazing results, I decided to try out another build, something different that I havent seen on pojo before, or anywhere by that matter.

Another reason for making other quickdraw variants is to show people there are better variants than quickdraw plants, and to not go cookie cutter.

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1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
1 Naturia Beast
1 formula synchron
1 shooting star dragon
11 staple synchros
Being able to bring back Machina Force with Drill Warrior to bring fortress back every turn is just major lolz.

Deck is open for suggestions.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:10 PM   #2
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It's interesting you got that, but how well does it run
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:12 PM   #3
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y vas a seguir? maldita sea la madre co~o tu y tus decks locos ke terminan broken xD

oye oye por lo ke veo voy a tener que invertir en gravekeepers por lo ke me hago el abs zero porke NO HAY NINGUNA CARTA -___-"

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Nice deck, keep it up
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:19 PM   #4
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It's interesting you got that, but how well does it run
I havent tested it yet, i just mixed basic knowledge of the experience i have with quickdraw, with how machina decks re supposed to be used. THis decks focuses mainly on abusing force and fortress. And if Drill Warrior never shows up, machina can stand firm on its own.

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y vas a seguir? maldita sea la madre co~o tu y tus decks locos ke terminan broken xD

oye oye por lo ke veo voy a tener que invertir en gravekeepers por lo ke me hago el abs zero porke NO HAY NINGUNA CARTA -___-"

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Nice deck, keep it up
LMAO xD

Dude, I just imagined:

Drill, bring back force, discard to bring fortress every turn xD

And as far as GK goes, 30 dollars max on it.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:21 PM   #5
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I've seen this before, and looks not as consistent as the build I saw.

Monster: 22
3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Force
2 Dandylion
2 Lonefire Blossom
1 Tyttanial Princess of Camellias
1 Glow Up Bulb
1 Spore
2 Ryko Lightsworn Hunter
2 Debris Dragon
1 Quickdraw Synchron
1 Card Trooper
1 Sangan

Spell: 10
2 Pot of Avarice
2 Book of Moon
1 Charge of the Light Brigade
1 Foolish Burial
1 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Monster Reborn
1 Cold Wave
1 Dark Hole

Trap: 8
2 Seven Tools of the Bandit
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Call Of The Haunted
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:25 PM   #6
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I've seen this before, and looks not as consistent as the build I saw.

Monster: 22
3 Machina Gearframe
3 Machina Fortress
2 Machina Force
2 Dandylion
2 Lonefire Blossom
1 Tyttanial Princess of Camellias
1 Glow Up Bulb
1 Spore
2 Ryko Lightsworn Hunter
2 Debris Dragon
1 Quickdraw Synchron
1 Card Trooper
1 Sangan

Spell: 10
2 Pot of Avarice
2 Book of Moon
1 Charge of the Light Brigade
1 Foolish Burial
1 Gold Sarcophagus
1 Monster Reborn
1 Cold Wave
1 Dark Hole

Trap: 8
2 Seven Tools of the Bandit
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
1 Call Of The Haunted
1 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Torrential Tribute
Thats just quickdraw plants with some machina on it.

This is quickdraw machina, its based on machines, not the tytannial. This deck is consistent, firstly because it is a 40 card deck, second machinas are consistent on their own, quickdrw is just replacing the gadget part that everyone uses.

Force into fortress every turn sounds consistent to me, and it is very easy to do, and even if drill doesnt show up, The machina can run on their own, and debris is always good.

Decrees also save me.

Just ask gaaradeckpower... lol
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:29 PM   #7
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There's no difference. You're teching Fortress, Gearframe, and Force into a deck and adding spells you don't need and taking out traps you need.

The deck I posted is fine, because you need a way to capitalize on dem tokens. Formula Synchron and Negations sounds fine to me, and adds consistency.

It isn't focused on Tytannial. Tytannial is just good with Dandytokens.
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There's no difference. You're teching Fortress, Gearframe, and Force into a deck and adding spells you don't need and taking out traps you need.

The deck I posted is fine, because you need a way to capitalize on dem tokens. Formula Synchron and Negations sounds fine to me, and adds consistency.

It isn't focused on Tytannial. Tytannial is just good with Dandytokens.
Best quickdraw builds are the decree ones. This deck doesnt need traps at all.

And no, they arent "teched" the deck is BASED around them, its based around machine monsters firstly, quickdraw are the added monsters.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:34 PM   #9
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Looks like there's more QD monsters in there to me :/

On another note, Quickdraw works perfectly fine with traps, I like it better because of the safety in case you can't set up quickly.

I prefer Decree in pure QD or Volcanic QD.
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hmmm so youre dark......youre armed... and your a pineapple? interesting....

I dont see any coherence in any of your post.... you just want to cut the cookie and put some plants...

Oh god I bet youre one of the morons that bought pot of duality at 80+

Really, get off pojo, go to wendys, ask for a job, then work on your X-Sabers and quickdraw variants...

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Old 11-23-2010, 08:37 PM   #11
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Looks like there's more QD monsters in there to me :/

On another note, Quickdraw works perfectly fine with traps, I like it better because of the safety in case you can't set up quickly.

I prefer Decree in pure QD or Volcanic QD.
There are only 8 monsters as far as the QD part of it goes, the rest is part of the machina.

I works perfectly fine with traps, and it works perfectly fine without them. For me, it works better with decree, I can counter my opponents monsters with my own quickplay spell cards.

One thing i forgot on the list though, and that is from 1 to 2 msts, ill get on that now.
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I count 12 monsters I see mained often in QD.

And you'll be sad when you have an empty frontrow, decree out, and they've just coldwaved and summoned boggart darksoul faultroll faultroll.

I prefer traps, its just better that way for the unorthodox variants.
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I count 12 monsters I see mained often in QD.

And you'll be sad when you have an empty frontrow, decree out, and they've just coldwaved and summoned boggart darksoul faultroll faultroll.

I prefer traps, its just better that way for the unorthodox variants.
Some are mained in both.

Again, please, just as I said to persim berry, do not post imaginary situations in which the opponent or you has/have the advantage because that leads nowhere. The fact that you said my opponent used Cold Wave, makes it irrelevant as to whether if I run traps or not because they will still wreck me since I cant use either. Imaginary situations never help any deck out to be honest.

And you still have doubts about this being consistent or not. I never make inconsistent decks. Ive been playing yugioh since I can remember, and I also used to play naruto as well, and playing naruto helped me create more consistent builds in both games. So what I always do is tweak the minor details, but the deck always posted as the first list is always consistent, i make sure of that in many ways.
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Old 11-23-2010, 08:56 PM   #14
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I think this looks cool.

I agree with you about cookie cutter decks being boring. That's why I built a Junk Box variant of QD. Check it out. Its in my sig.

And as for the argument you and Dark Pineapple are having I think you both right. DAP's Deck looks interesting too, but seems more focused on the QD half then yours, which seems to be 50/50, IMO.

Oh and one more thing. what synchros are you using aside from Drill Warrior? You mention him, but he isn't in you Extra Deck list and you have tuners listed, but no synchros listed.
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hmmm so youre dark......youre armed... and your a pineapple? interesting....

I dont see any coherence in any of your post.... you just want to cut the cookie and put some plants...

Oh god I bet youre one of the morons that bought pot of duality at 80+

Really, get off pojo, go to wendys, ask for a job, then work on your X-Sabers and quickdraw variants...

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Yeah, Pojo is pretty terrible. I'm convinced everyone on the deck advice forum hates me.

I don't play PoD decks. I build decks that are better without it so I don't need to buy it.

Main difference between his deck and mine is a trap lineup and a Tytannial tech. I see nothing wrong with Tytannial.

At Zyphel :

It is very likely at some point you wish you had BTH or Solemn Warning. Imaginary situations are likely situations. Only thing saving you from an attack is BoM/E-Con/Limiter. Nothing saving you from effects here

For most decks, QD included, Traps help.

Some variants don't need it as much. This isn't one of them.
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These seem like some interesting changes... keep in mind the deck right now is at 41 cards, I want it at 40.

Also, what can you say to support your changes to this deck? I think I might know where youre coming from with this, but im interested in hearing what you have to say.

I would take out overload and lower the count to 40. But Future Fusion helps me get the monsters I need in the grave... its like a really... but really overpowered version of Foolish Burial in here.

But still, im interested to listening why did you chose these fixes.

Im going to bed now though, so I will read your reply tomorrow. Night.
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QD is fine with 41-42 cards, because of all the milling.
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QD is fine with 41-42 cards, because of all the milling.
Exactly! I cant tell you how many times I've almost milled out with mine, lol.

BTW, plz R/F mine (or any of my other decks).
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I think this looks cool.

I agree with you about cookie cutter decks being boring. That's why I built a Junk Box variant of QD. Check it out. Its in my sig.

And as for the argument you and Dark Pineapple are having I think you both right. DAP's Deck looks interesting too, but seems more focused on the QD half then yours, which seems to be 50/50, IMO.

Oh and one more thing. what synchros are you using aside from Drill Warrior? You mention him, but he isn't in you Extra Deck list and you have tuners listed, but no synchros listed.
I just want to stay out of the tytannial route. I dont like plants whatsoever, just because it is the most popular, people think it is the best quickdraw around, and it is not. But these days people dont really think when building decks.

As far as synchros go, i forgot to list them, ill do so tomorrow.

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Yeah, Pojo is pretty terrible. I'm convinced everyone on the deck advice forum hates me.

I don't play PoD decks. I build decks that are better without it so I don't need to buy it.

Main difference between his deck and mine is a trap lineup and a Tytannial tech. I see nothing wrong with Tytannial.

At Zyphel :

It is very likely at some point you wish you had BTH or Solemn Warning. Imaginary situations are likely situations. Only thing saving you from an attack is BoM/E-Con/Limiter. Nothing saving you from effects here

For most decks, QD included, Traps help.

Some variants don't need it as much. This isn't one of them.
There will be times I wish I had traps, of course no denying that. But again, if you are in a losing position, you will always wish you had something to counter the opponent, its normal.

In the water quickdraw that is in my sig, I have less protection than in here, and Ive never had a problem with the fact that I dont run traps, in fact, i rarely lost, and it was because of decree. You just have to be used to playing with decree, and you will see the difference.

In all honesty, ive tried them both, and the decree version of quickdraw is a bit hard to get used to, but once you do, it plays a lot better than a quickdraw with traps.

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QD is fine with 41-42 cards, because of all the milling.
I know, but im really picky with this, I always go out of my way to make all my decks contain exactly 40 cards.

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I dont like the Future + Overload Fusion tech. Srsly, Overload wont summon such a strong chimeratech and Future Fusion destroys your field.

So -1 OF
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+1 Glow-Up Bulb(mills, Formula with tokens, Lv8 with Fortress.

Sry for replying so late, I was busy all day.
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Its pretty much alright.

And ill do just that. (:
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If you look at my QD deck, I maindeck decree.

Don't immediately assume you know more about QD than everyone else on the thread.

On a serious note, I don't see how not having traps benefits this deck more than it hurts it.
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If you look at my QD deck, I maindeck decree.

Don't immediately assume you know more about QD than everyone else on the thread.

On a serious note, I don't see how not having traps benefits this deck more than it hurts it.
At the beginning, where you talking to the other dude or me?

And to answer that, Royal Decree shuts down a/4 or a/3 part of any player's deck, that part being the most important of them for it is what protects them and keeps them alive. Book of Moon isnt shut down by decree, neither is Enemy Controller, and I can use 2 to full advantage with the tokens, and I also have Limiter Removal.

In the water quickdraw, I only use the 3 books and the 2 controllers and a rigeki break (in here I use solemn) and thats all ive ever needed. I suggest you try it out with decree... take this advice from me, ive been playing quickdraw decks since the format began and ive tested against everything, and it really does work and in my opinion, its even more consistent with decree since usually quickdraw decks dont run more than 7-8 traps.

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Where you talking to piney or me? Neither of us suck, do I have more experience than him? idk, probably since ive been playing since elementary school. But that doesnt make him a bad player, different opinions wil happen a lot.
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