Dimensional gladiaor beasts

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 10:14 AM

Do you guys think that Dimensional Glads are still a viable deck? I've been thinking about building them simply because they would screw more than half my local decks. Opinions? And if anyone has any good deck lists i'd love it if i could see them. This is of course, providing that anyone ever looks at this thread -.-

Here's my list so far:
3x Test Tiger
2x GB Samnite
2x GB Equeste
3x GB Laquari (I needed monsters)
1x GB Darius
1x GB Hoplomus
2x Thunder King Rai-Oh
1x GB Bestiari
1x GB Retiari
1x GB Murmillo
1x Rescue Cat
1x GB Secutor

Spells:
1x MST
3x Dimensional Fissure
1x Cold Wave
2x Book of Moon
2x Gladiator Beast's Respite
1x Brain Control
1x Heavy Storm
1x Gladiator Proving Ground

Traps:
1x Dust Tornado
2x Gladiator Beast War Chariot
2x Dimensional Prison
1x Mirror Force
1x Solemn Judgment
1x Torrential Tribute
1x Starlight Road

And then I have one extra slot. I'd prefer to put another monster in, but i don't know what card would help. I'm not gonna put in Gorz because, more often then not, i have a lot of S/T's on the field. 3rd Thunder King isn't a Gladiator Beast, and i was hoping for that. Andal doesn't tag so i don't see him being good. Idea's? Options?

Extra Deck:
3x GB Gyzarius
3x GB Heraklinos
3x Stardust Dragon
1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

Side Deck: (So Far)
2x Nobleman of Crossout (Quickdraw)
1x Cyber Dragon (Maybe)For Machines
2x System Down (3 if i don't run CyDra)For Machines
1x Trap Dustshoot (Sabers, and almost anything else)
1x Mind Crush (Sabers, and makes a beast combo with Dustshoot)
2x Light Imprisoning Mirror (LS, Heralds)
1x Spirit Reaper (Heralds)
2x Gottom's E-Call (Sabers. Cause big problems for me)
1x Gladiator Beast War Chariot (Any decks with many effects)
1x Compulsary Evacuation Device (Infernities and Sabers/Synchro's die to this)
1x Dark Bribe/Starlight Road (A lot of decks run destruction, but i'd rather have Dark Bribe for anything, even if it's only 1 card. Starlight can't stop Tornado. Opinions?)

sanillination · 07-30-2010, 10:20 AM

they will become viable once the meta becomes more dependant on graveyard and regular Gladiator Beast need an extra element of control to survive

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 10:24 AM

But for countering stuff like:
Lightsworns
Infernities
Gravekeepers
QuickdrawDandyWarrior and
Machines?

That's the stuff im building to counter against. Of course, it can inconvenience
other decks as well, but mainly for them. I'm thinking of running Return from the Different Dimension to either OTK or speed summon Herk to protect stuff and Gyzarius just because i can.

Brionac777x · 07-30-2010, 10:33 AM

Just play a Macro deck

sanillination · 07-30-2010, 10:36 AM

dimensional fissure also beats x-sabers

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 10:44 AM

@Brio: I played a Macro deck from about 2002 through early 2009. I've found, through long and tedious testing, that it can be inconsistent. With the current meta i don't think that it would prove useable.

@san: Yes, that to, but nobody really runs it at my locals, until we get 1 more Darksoul his way. Thank god. But he misplays a lot so i'm not worried.

I've started working about a new deck list and i'll have it up soon.

Brionac777x · 07-30-2010, 10:47 AM

With a Macro u deck u can control the field better because u can play macro

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 10:52 AM

Yeah, but Macro becomes a dead draw a little too often. If my locals was all Tier 1 decks i'd run it, but because i play against some stuff like monarchs, Fortune Ladies, Neo- ****ing Spacians =/, and some other random crap, i don't want to risk it. Besides, i like GB's and they're usually very consistent.

Skylar93 · 07-30-2010, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfire11196

@Brio: I played a Macro deck from about 2002 through early 2009. I've found, through long and tedious testing, that it can be inconsistent. With the current meta i don't think that it would prove useable.
.

it took u seven years to realize that macro sux?

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 11:44 AM

Macro Monarchs tbh. They worked well, until 2009 when all this new s**t came out.

Additional Comment:

Deck moved up to top.

sanillination · 07-30-2010, 11:48 AM

what i would change:

-1 Laquari
-2 proving ground
-1 Lightning Vortex
-3 Waboku

+2 Respite
+1 Dimensional Fissure (with hyunlei, they're going to get destroyed)
+1 Solemn Judgment
+2 Dimensional Prison
+1 MST

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 12:51 PM

You'd dump the Waboku's? I've found that they work.... really well actually. No damage or free summons all around. The problem with Respite is I'm afraid i don't have enough GB stuff. What happens when my hands is filled with TKRO, D-Fis. etc?
Agree with everything else, but maybe only one prison. Should i even bother with Darius? I know everyone only plays 2 Laquari, but she's our only good beatstick aside from contact stuff. I'm wary of dropping her to 2.

Additional Comment:

Idea's anyone? Bump%

sanillination · 07-30-2010, 01:31 PM

i used to be a HUGE Waboku fan, but really, it just prolongs problems, it doesn't really get rid of them. i slowly dropped them from my deck until i finally hit 0 and i don't miss them at all.

TKR + D-Fissure = Good Control.

12 GB Monsters + 3 Respite + 3 Chariot = A working draw engine. it's used in normal GB decks that win tournaments.

i can tell you that it works, becuase i use it. 3 Respite works better than 1 or 2 because Respite itself is a GB card so u can recycle 1 Respite and like a Secutor with another Respite for a new hand, and ull draw into Chariots, D-Prisons, BTH, D-Fissures, etc.

hope that helps

dragonfire11196 · 07-30-2010, 06:11 PM

*reaches understanding* thank you wise gladiator. lol =P
But i think i get what you're saying. I don't want to drop Waboku's totally, but for now i'll drop to 2 and add a 3rd Respite. Fun getting my hands on one...-_- oh well. Fun as hell.

Plagueflames · 07-31-2010, 11:42 PM

the thing with Waboku is that it doesnt net you anything, breaks even usually. which while its not a bad thing, i too have never felt them necessary. if they work that well for you, great, but try without them and see what happens.

dragonfire11196 · 08-01-2010, 05:43 AM

Yeah, i dropped it down to 2. Only thing about this deck is that monsters use to be less than S/T. Might try
-1 Waboku
+1 GB Laquari.
Do you think that would work?

Nordrassil · 08-01-2010, 06:06 AM

Side your Brain Control against mirror matches. You don't want your GBs going to grave as synchro summon material.

-2 Waboku
+2 Dim Prison

Additional Comment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plagueflames

the thing with Waboku is that it doesnt net you anything, breaks even usually. which while its not a bad thing, i too have never felt them necessary. if they work that well for you, great, but try without them and see what happens.

Most commonly splashed trap cards net 0 card advantage. The thing is you kill their normal summon that can be conducted once per turn

dragonfire11196 · 08-01-2010, 07:24 AM

List edited. I just like Waboku because Ls is my worst match-up at locals usuallly, cuz infernities are easy. Waboku lets me pop out a murmillo which lets me kill JD, and then Retiari maybe to remove it. Plus, with a SS Secutor it can be instant Herk. I'll put in one Dim. Prison and 1 Waboku for now. Also, aded 3rd Laquari and sided Brain Control.

Additional Comment:

My friend just gave me an idea. Guardian Eatos! It'll work perfectly. The question becomes, who'll trade them and how many do i run. I was thinking 2. What do you guys think?

GladBeastBoss · 08-01-2010, 08:42 AM

Interesting enough build, little different from my D-Glad build. I was trying something out and actually found out it kinda work. What if you through in Phantom of Chaos x3, and something little Dimensional Alchemist or, dare I say it, Necroface. I tested it for a while and think about it, infinite amount of Rescue Cats or Test Tigers. Not the worlds most competitive thing but, I found it interesting.

TheGosuNoob · 08-01-2010, 08:48 AM

good list, i say -1 bribe
+1 Waboku

idk how you guys dont think this card is not amazing.

dragonfire11196 · 08-01-2010, 09:39 AM

GB Boss: They're interested idea's, and i might try the D-Alchemist. PoC and N-Face i'm gonna stay away from for now. D-Alch will be fun with Tiger. Thanks for the suggestion!!

TheGosu: Bribe i'm keeping in because so many people run BTH and other traps that will stop me. 1 Waboku has been testing fine.

sanillination · 08-01-2010, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfire11196

List edited. I just like Waboku because Ls is my worst match-up at locals usuallly, cuz infernities are easy. Waboku lets me pop out a murmillo which lets me kill JD, and then Retiari maybe to remove it. Plus, with a SS Secutor it can be instant Herk. I'll put in one Dim. Prison and 1 Waboku for now. Also, aded 3rd Laquari and sided Brain Control.

Additional Comment:

My friend just gave me an idea. Guardian Eatos! It'll work perfectly. The question becomes, who'll trade them and how many do i run. I was thinking 2. What do you guys think?

eatos tends to be inconsistent
you could try it though, you just need a draw engine so that you draw into d-fissures so that you don't get a Laquari stuck in the grave or something and eatos becomes dead

dragonfire11196 · 08-01-2010, 10:29 AM

Hm. You make a good point. I'm using 3 Respites, but those are really the only way to draw well in GB's.

Additional Comment:

What do you guys think i should do about Mirror of Oath, Corridor of Agony, and such? I'm considering maining/siding 1-2 Dust Tornados and maybe a Twister. Depends on what i can get a hold of.

Qwertyzone · 08-01-2010, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonfire11196

Do you guys think that Dimensional Glads are still a viable deck? I've been thinking about building them simply because they would screw more than half my local decks. Opinions? And if anyone has any good deck lists i'd love it if i could see them. This is of course, providing that anyone ever looks at this thread -.-

Here's my list so far:
3x Test Tiger
3x GB Laquari
2x TKRO
2x GB Samnite
2x GB Equeste
1x GB Bestiari
1x GB Murmillo
1x GB Retiari
1x GB Hoplomus
1x GB Darius
1x GB Secutor
1x Rescue Cat

Spells:
3x Dimensional Fissure
1x Heavy Storm
1x Cold Wave
1x MST
3x Gb Respite

Traps:
1x Dimensional Prison
3x GB War Chariot
1x Waboku
2x BTH
1x Dark Bribe
1x Starlight Road
1x TT
1x Mirror Force
1x Solemn Judgment

Extra Deck:
3x GB GYzarius
3x GB Heraklinos
3x Stardust Dragon
1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon

-1x Darius
I can't believe no one has said anything about it. If you're doing everything to keep your glads on the field and let d-fissure hit, then darius is useless!

-1x Equeste
same reason

-1x Dark Bribe
This card just helps your opponent draw more and draw faster. It's useless right now.

-1x Laquiri
You only just need 2. All the glad builds that top run 2, I run 2 and find it better than 3.

+1x D-prison
Traps run 2 or none at all

+1x Starlight Road
If you have continuous spells like dfissure you need 1 more starlight for protection

+2x Waboku
You're trying not to let your glads bite the dust, so you need Waboku protection T_T

dragonfire11196 · 08-01-2010, 10:43 AM

I see where you are coming from with Darius so i'll dump him to side, buy Equeste is used to bring back War Chariot and Respite. I'm debating 2 Starlight Roads or 1 Starlight 1 Bribe. I'm trying to consider my locals. Starlight Road....hm.. Stardust would become useless because it would be removed from play. I'll try to Starlights and side deck 1 bribe.