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06-07-2010, 09:45 AM
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Learning the Ropes
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Fiendish Chain Rulings
i was wondering if Fiendish Chain works against Caius, and Black Rose Dragon
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06-07-2010, 09:53 AM
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Yes it does, think of it as Forbidden Chalice.
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06-07-2010, 09:55 AM
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Learning the Ropes
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so that means BRD cannot be used to destroy the field?
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06-07-2010, 09:55 AM
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no vs BRD, because it offers itself as a cost.
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06-07-2010, 10:02 AM
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no vs BRD, because it offers itself as a cost.
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Black Rose Dragon "field destruction" effect has no cost. BRD will destroy itself via its effect at resolution. If Fiendish Chain is chained to the effect of BRD, and BRD remains face-up at resolution, then BRD will not destroy itself. |
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06-07-2010, 10:10 AM
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o yea? wheres the proof? they told me its a cost here.
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06-07-2010, 10:13 AM
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Is a ruling good enough?:
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If "Black Rose Dragon" activates its first effect, it is also destroyed
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06-07-2010, 10:15 AM
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Poople should read the cards =/
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06-07-2010, 10:18 AM
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lol so Skill Drain can stop BRD.
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06-07-2010, 10:19 AM
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So long as Black Rose Dragon is face-up on the field at resolution, then yes. |
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06-07-2010, 10:19 AM
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As always, yes, it can
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06-07-2010, 10:34 AM
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o yea? wheres the proof? they told me its a cost here.
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You could just try reading the card. Nowhere does it say anything about Tributing "Black Rose Dragon" for its effect.
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06-07-2010, 10:39 AM
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Learning the Ropes
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i guess if Fiendish Chain or Forbidden Chalice or Skill Drain or Divine Wrath or whatever negation couldn't stop the effect, BRD would probably be banned instead of limited to 1, i thought of it because the card says YOU CAN and that is an optional statement, not a YOU MUST and its an effect that activates on the field, not on the graveyard, so the only chan that can work against BRD being negated, would be another counter like Dark Bribe or something
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06-07-2010, 10:41 AM
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clarification...
"Black Rose Dragon's" field destruction effect does not have a cost. In fact, there is nothing to even indicate a cost. When it is Synchro Summoned, its trigger effect activates. Chaining "Fiendish Chain" to this effect will negate it.
"Black Rose Dragon's" 0 attack effect does have a cost. Chaining "Fiendish Chain" to this effect will negate it.
just in case anyone was confused.
Additional Comment:
Both of "Black Rose Dragon's" effects activate on the field. "Dark Bribe" does not negate monster effects.
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Last edited by illusionX : 06-07-2010 at 10:41 AM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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06-07-2010, 10:51 AM
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Learning the Ropes
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thanks dudes, yeah i got it, just a clarification i needed with a friend
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