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Old 02-08-2010, 09:58 PM   #1
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Definitely one of the better commons from the new set and gives me a good reason to run my favorite field card. Just drew the deck up, haven't pulled it together yet

Monsters-19

2-Levia Dragon – Daedalus
2-Mobius the Frost Monarch
3-Codarus
3-Warrior of Atlantis
3-Deep Sea Diva
2-Abyss Soldier
2-Mother Grizzly
2-Minefieldriller/Regulus

Spells-10

3-A Legendary Ocean
3-Salvage
2-Moray of Greed
1-Heavy Storm
1-Pot of Avarice

Traps-11

2-Forgotten Temple of the Deep
2-Bottomless Traphole
2-Spiritual Water Art-Aoi
2-Mind Crush
1-Trap Dustshoot
1-Torrential Tribute
1-Mirror Force

Took some ideas from old school water hand control. Levia might get cut for Tragodias depending on how often Levia drops and if I can even get Trags(cause otherwise this deck is pretty budget).
Not sure about Mobius. Might switch with another Monarch(Testy,Caius,Raiza all would probably work well).
Divas are in here mainly cause it's the best water tuner. Not running another target because PoA and Salvage/Moray should be recycling them
Not sure about whether Minefielddriller or Regulus should be in.
Everything else I'm pretty sure is just standard stuff for this. Any help is appreciated.

EDIT:
Changed the deck alot. Wasn't really reliably doing what I wanted before. The new decklist looks like this

Monsters:20
2-Caius the Shadow Monarch
2-Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch
3-Codarus
3-Warrior of Atlantis
3-Deep Sea Diva
2-Mother Grizzly
1-Snowman Eater
1-Spined Gillman
1-Treeborn Frog
1-Sangan
1-Minefielddriller

Spells:12
3-A Legendary Ocean
2-Book of Moon
2-Salvage
1-Moray of Greed
1-Smashing Ground
1-Pot of Avarice
1-Brain Control
1-Heavy Storm

Traps-8
2-Bottomless Traphole
2-Spiritual Water Art-Aoi
1-Trap Dustshoot
1-Mind Crush
1-Mirror Force
1-Torrential Tribute

So all together
-1 Levia Dragon(Too much work to summon. Effect usually didn't pay off as much as expected after Codarus uses and Monarch drops)
-2 Mobius the Frost Monarch(Decided Caius was better)
-2 Abyss Soldier(Fewer waters in the deck and Brionac outshines him)
-2 Regulus(Realized Minefield's "to the hand" works better. Might try him over Minefield now that he's at 1 in the deck)

-1 Salvage(3rd lead to dead draws. 2 works fine)
-1 Moray of Greed(Hard to feed with lower water count. Stayed dead in hand often)

-2 Forgotten Temple of the Deep(Wasn't really needed. 3 ALO feed Codarus nicely. Also the fact that my monster comes back in my end phase no matter when it was removed sucks)
-1 Mind Crush(Stupid banlist. Didn't want to make this change)
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+2 Caius the Shadow Monarch(Doesn't destroy like Mobius and permanently removes threats)
+2 Thestalos the Firestorm Monarch(Helps with Hand Control. Gets rid of Honests, Kaluts and Aoi/Dustshoot tells me the best time to drop him)
+1 Snowman Eater(High defense, great first turn set, nice level for Diva. Trying to fit another one in)
+1 Spined Gillman(Turns Diva into a level 5 at least. Boosts other Waters by 400 which helps)
+1 Treeborn Frog(Makes Monarch drops smoother, another level for syncing, makes Water Art easier)
+1 Sangan(Staple that searches most of the deck)
+1 Minefielddriller(Better than Regulus for the "to hand" part. Can be reused if on the field with Brionac)

+2 Book of Moon(Protects my little monsters. Combos well with Snowman Eater)
+1 Smashing Ground(Helps my little guys get around big guys)
+1 Brain Control(Monarchs, Diva)
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I hope you have 3x Armory Arms because LV 4 Water monster plus Diva while Legendary Ocean is out is only 4 stars. Other Diva will make it a 5. Not the best option is seems.

-3x Diva
-1x Daedalus
-1x Mobius
+3x MK Bugroth
+1x Abyss Soldier
+1x Mother Grizzly

Salvage + Morray of greed is a plus 2 so
-1x POA (goes against salvage)
+1x Morray of Greed

I like the hand control aspect tho, really good picks.
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Definitely one of the better commons from the new set and gives me a good reason to run my favorite field card. Just drew the deck up, haven't pulled it together yet

Monsters-19

2-Levia Dragon – Daedalus
2-Mobius the Frost Monarch
3-Codarus
3-Warrior of Atlantis
3-Deep Sea Diva
2-Abyss Soldier
2-Mother Grizzly
2-Minefieldriller/Regulus

Spells-10

3-A Legendary Ocean
3-Salvage
2-Moray of Greed
1-Heavy Storm
1-Pot of Avarice

Traps-11

2-Forgotten Temple of the Deep
2-Bottomless Traphole
2-Spiritual Water Art-Aoi
2-Mind Crush
1-Trap Dustshoot
1-Torrential Tribute
1-Mirror Force

Took some ideas from old school water hand control. Levia might get cut for Tragodias depending on how ofter Levia drops and if I can even get Trags(cause otherwise this deck is pretty budget).
Not sure about Mobius. Might switch with another Monarch(Testy,Caius,Raiza all would probably work well).
Divas are in here mainly cause it's the best water tuner. Not running another target because PoA and Salvage/Moray should be recycling them
Not sure about whether Minefielddriller or Regulus should be in.
Everything else I'm pretty sure is just standard stuff for this. Any help is appreciated.

I agree with you on the Tragoedia/Levia. I'd side Tragoedia for now and see how it works out.
-2 Mobius
+2 Caius
-1 Pot of Avarice
+1 Moray of Greed

If you could help me fix my deck, that would be great
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I hope you have 3x Armory Arms because LV 4 Water monster plus Diva while Legendary Ocean is out is only 4 stars. Other Diva will make it a 5. Not the best option is seems.

-3x Diva
-1x Daedalus
-1x Mobius
+3x MK Bugroth
+1x Abyss Soldier
+1x Mother Grizzly

Salvage + Morray of greed is a plus 2 so
-1x POA (goes against salvage)
+1x Morray of Greed

I like the hand control aspect tho, really good picks.
I do not think Divas will be a problem as he will be constantly abusing Codarus

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I do not think Divas will be a problem as he will be constantly abusing Codarus
Oh yeah, good point.
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I hope you have 3x Armory Arms because LV 4 Water monster plus Diva while Legendary Ocean is out is only 4 stars. Other Diva will make it a 5. Not the best option is seems.

-3x Diva
-1x Daedalus
-1x Mobius
+3x MK Bugroth
+1x Abyss Soldier
+1x Mother Grizzly

Salvage + Morray of greed is a plus 2 so
-1x POA (goes against salvage)
+1x Morray of Greed

I like the hand control aspect tho, really good picks.
Another Abyss Soldier sounds good but I don't want to run another Grizzly cause 2 already is iffy to me. Battle Searchers aren't too good right now but he is the only way to search Codarus/Diva.

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I agree with you on the Tragoedia/Levia. I'd side Tragoedia for now and see how it works out.
-2 Mobius
+2 Caius
-1 Pot of Avarice
+1 Moray of Greed

If you could help me fix my deck, that would be great
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I do not think Divas will be a problem as he will be constantly abusing Codarus
I'll see how 3rd Moray over Pot works out. Pot was really only in there for used Warrior of Atlantis' and Monarchs. Most likely will do the Caius over Mobius cause I don't have Mobius's but have 2 Caius o.O. Now I need to get Tragodias. How much are they?
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I'll see how 3rd Moray over Pot works out. Pot was really only in there for used Warrior of Atlantis' and Monarchs. Most likely will do the Caius over Mobius cause I don't have Mobius's but have 2 Caius o.O. Now I need to get Tragodias. How much are they?
Around 7-8 dollars per one
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Aww. Well at least I only need 2 for now. Although I should buy a playset before they become scarce.
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I would keep the Levis in the deck and side Tragoedias in your final decklist.
Use Regulus over Mindfielddriller as it flows better with Warrior of Atlantis.
Also, how do you feel about:
-2 Abyss Soldier
+2 Penguin Soldier(Penguin Soldier as a game opener against Gladiator Beasts would ensure you the victory)

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I would keep the Levis in the deck and side Tragoedias in your final decklist.
Use Regulus over Mindfielddriller as it flows better with Warrior of Atlantis.
Also, how do you feel about:
-2 Abyss Soldier
+2 Penguin Soldier
Now I'll have to disagree with those changes. Mindfield over Regulus, and Abyss over Penguin. Mindfield can put the card in the hand, also Abyss can be used as a 2000 beatstick (with ALO) who can disappear with Forgotten Temple, and an early game Abyss lock can win games on its own.
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Now I'll have to disagree with those changes. Mindfield over Regulus, and Abyss over Penguin. Mindfield can put the card in the hand, also Abyss can be used as a 2000 beatstick (with ALO) who can disappear with Forgotten Temple, and an early game Abyss lock can win games on its own.
Good point on Abyss Soldier, but with Regulus, you can constantly abuse Atlantis+Salvage as well as having a 1700 beatstick. Regulus is more versatile than Minefield thus Regulus>Minefield
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Now I'll have to disagree with those changes. Mindfield over Regulus, and Abyss over Penguin. Mindfield can put the card in the hand, also Abyss can be used as a 2000 beatstick (with ALO) who can disappear with Forgotten Temple, and an early game Abyss lock can win games on its own.
I was thinking the same thing about Abyss. He's really good with F.T. Especially when the +s from Salvage starts coming up. I might side the Penguins, either Soldier or Nightmare(he came up in brainstorming cause he can do S/Ts like Abyss)

I'm still unsure about the Regulus/Minefield thing. Some pros and cons of each
Regulus
+Over time, he brings back more ALOs
+Bigger so he can hold his own(to an extent-moreso than Minefield)
-Basically the reason I wanted PoA to put the Warrior of Atlantis's back in the deck.
-Not to my hand like Minefield.

Minefielddriller
+Directly to my hand
+Small enough to ram into something bigger and big enough for it not to hurt much
-Can "miss the timing" which sucks for synching
-Can't get field if destroyed from being attacked while face-down
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Needs Treeborn Frog and possibly Umi for extra nukes [probably not though]
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Treeborn would be situational in this particular deck.
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Needs Treeborn Frog and possibly Umi for extra nukes [probably not though]
I was thinking about Treeborn Frog but I have no room for him unless I threw him on top and went to 41 but I don't really want to.

Umi's not extra nukes cause I can only run 3 between it and ALO and ALO is better.
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I was thinking about Treeborn Frog but I have no room for him unless I threw him on top and went to 41 but I don't really want to.

Umi's not extra nukes cause I can only run 3 between it and ALO and ALO is better.
Try testing the deck out using proxies and see how you like it. Don't forget to test out Regulus
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Yea I'll probably proxy out my frogs for this deck. I don't have any extra sleeves lying around and by the time I can get sleeves I'll just buy the deck since it's so cheap(besides the sided Trags)
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Yea I'll probably proxy out my frogs for this deck. I don't have any extra sleeves lying around and by the time I can get sleeves I'll just buy the deck since it's so cheap(besides the sided Trags)
Yeah, this deck is pretty effective for a budge deck.
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AMG. I love this deck so much. Water has been my favorite decktype since I started, and I was starting to have hope for it becoming top tier due to Absolute Zero. When Codarus came out I was super excited. If only he was a lvl 3 right? Abuse with Diva xD. Perhaps you could splash the D-Hero support in here with some miracle fusions and **** face? D-Hero Dashering into a Levia-Dragon sounds like a sexy idea that might make a cool combo with Plaguespreader. Additionally Spiritual Water art combo's excellently with Absolute Zero. Discard a card AND blow up your monsters? Sign me up.

Monsters-
2-Levia Dragon – Daedalus
1-E-Hero Stratos
2-D-Hero Malicious
2-D-Hero Dasher
3-Codarus
3-Warrior of Atlantis
3-Deep Sea Diva
2-Abyss Soldier
1-Regulus
1-Plaguespreader Zombie

Spells-
3-A Legendary Ocean
2-Salvage
2-Destiny Draw
1-Heavy Storm
1-Pot of Avarice
2-Miracle Fusion
1-Reinforcement of the Army

Traps-
2-Forgotten Temple of the Deep
2-Bottomless Traphole
2-Spiritual Water Art-Aoi
1-Trap Dustshoot
1-Torrential Tribute
1-Mirror Force

Keep in mind this is purely conjecture and probably won't work because I might be trying to do too much...not to mention it would kill the budgetness of the deck, but it seemed like a good idea, lol.
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You NEED 3 temples. Keep in mind that the temple strike ninja's your codarus if its gonna get destroyed, spell speed 2. Levia's for me are a no, I got them just in case but they dont work, its either one or the other, and codarus is superior do to the fact that you can save it with temple, normal summon it(no dead draw), special summon with grizzly, salvage it, no bottomles, kills stardust and codarus will laugh its ass off at starlight road... need I say more?

If you have royal oppressions, stick 3 in there and take MORE control, because mother grizzly's effect cant be negated because its in battle. duh.

I already have my build and codarus is packing some serious heat against high tier decks.
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You NEED 3 temples. Keep in mind that the temple strike ninja's your codarus if its gonna get destroyed, spell speed 2. Levia's for me are a no, I got them just in case but they dont work, its either one or the other, and codarus is superior do to the fact that you can save it with temple, normal summon it(no dead draw), special summon with grizzly, salvage it, no bottomles, kills stardust and codarus will laugh its ass off at starlight road... need I say more?

If you have royal oppressions, stick 3 in there and take MORE control, because mother grizzly's effect cant be negated because its in battle. duh.

I already have my build and codarus is packing some serious heat against high tier decks.
I see. What would you cut to make room for +1 Temple and +3 Oppression?

Also how much are oppressions?
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I see. What would you cut to make room for +1 Temple and +3 Oppression?

Also how much are oppressions?
You dont need diva's in the deck, you dont special summon like stupid like zombies do, so divas are just gonna have to wait a turn so you can actually do something with them, and with oppression it'll just be worse for them.

I know you're going for hand and field control at the same time, so a lot of trap cards are taking spots, take one out to add a temple.

Oppression's are a pricey rare, expect to pay around 4 or 5 bucks for each
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Interesting deck. But how does it stack up against the cookie cutter Blackwing and Lightsworn?
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I like the deck.

No love for B.E.S. Crystal Core? ALO makes it a 0 tribute monster :P
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-2 regulus/mine
-2 mother griz

+2 Abyssal Kingshark
+2 Cyber Shark

They are both SO, SO good here. Particularly Kingshark. It can survive Mirror Force, BTH, Torrential, and Levia's destruction.
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I like the deck.

No love for B.E.S. Crystal Core? ALO makes it a 0 tribute monster :P
No room for him and he doesn't really help the deck.
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-2 regulus/mine
-2 mother griz

+2 Abyssal Kingshark
+2 Cyber Shark

They are both SO, SO good here. Particularly Kingshark. It can survive Mirror Force, BTH, Torrential, and Levia's destruction.
Changed the deck around. Kingshark would survive Levia wipe but I rarely summon Levia. Cyber Shark would be useless imo. I could just play ALO and his effect would be useless. I'd run Crystal Core over him if I had the space. Also I need Grizzly to search for Codarus and Regulus to recycle ALOs.

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Still want to add another Snowman Eater. Any suggestions on what to cut?
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