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09-13-2004, 01:57 AM
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What is the age of a fully grown phoenix
and how old do they get before they don't comeback?
sorry if this is a dumb question but i really want to know.
and vixen if you read this im sorry, i know your smarter than everyone here.
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09-13-2004, 09:32 AM
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As far as the old mythology goes, a phoenix will live forever and always come back.
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09-14-2004, 08:45 AM
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What if they're killed by someone/thing?
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09-14-2004, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Majin yami
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They simply are reborn as a chick, as illustrated in more than on scene in Harry Potter.
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" It occurred to Remus then that Sirius was perhaps the smartest idiot he knew. A mind so sharp it could slice through the most convoluted of puzzles, and yet so flexible it repeatedly managed to sidestep the obvious answer"
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09-14-2004, 07:19 PM
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A Phoenix is immortal... Take a guess on how long. (repetition!)
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09-15-2004, 12:23 AM
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They die constantly and are born from their ashes.
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09-15-2004, 12:24 AM
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Well, I know a phoenix is immortal according to myth, but J.k rowling changes things to suit her style, if you have nothing postive to add then don't post at all. I was just looking for an answer, not your critism.A
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09-15-2004, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodenCoyote
They simply are reborn as a chick, as illustrated in more than on scene in Harry Potter.
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09-15-2004, 07:25 AM
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Fawkes got hit by Avada Kedavra I think by Voldy in book 5...
Well he got hit by something... 
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09-15-2004, 08:45 AM
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Fawkes got hit by Avada Kedavra I think by Voldy in book 5...
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Yes, and he exploded back into a just-hatched chick. Dumbledore put him in his pocket, remember?
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" It occurred to Remus then that Sirius was perhaps the smartest idiot he knew. A mind so sharp it could slice through the most convoluted of puzzles, and yet so flexible it repeatedly managed to sidestep the obvious answer"
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09-15-2004, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PhoenixTail234
I don't remember Fawkes being killed, when did that happen?
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When Harry meets Dumbledore in book 2 he witnesses Fawkes dying and rebirthing...
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09-15-2004, 08:04 PM
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Well, I know a phoenix is immortal according to myth, but J.k rowling changes things to suit her style, if you have nothing postive to add then don't post at all. I was just looking for an answer, not your critism.A
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Ah, but you decided to think the worst of me. I wrote that so it could be taken as an insult, or as a joke. You decided that people on the internet must be bad people and were biased in reading it. I thought the "(repetition!)" part might have been a clue, but... The internet has a bad rep... Maybe I should have added a "^_^"
I wonder where Fawkes lived before it was with Dumbledor... |
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09-15-2004, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Slavik81
I wonder where Fawkes lived before it was with Dumbledor...
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Maybe he's always lived in Hogwarts as the companion to the Headmaster. Like the sorting hat.
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" It occurred to Remus then that Sirius was perhaps the smartest idiot he knew. A mind so sharp it could slice through the most convoluted of puzzles, and yet so flexible it repeatedly managed to sidestep the obvious answer"
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09-16-2004, 12:08 AM
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then if they got a army of Phoenixes beat the bad guys lol
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09-16-2004, 06:30 PM
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Maybe he's always lived in Hogwarts as the companion to the Headmaster. Like the sorting hat.
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Can something that has no end ever have a beginning?
Meh, that starts down the slippery path to religion, and as much as I'm in the mood to be banned... |
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09-16-2004, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Slavik81
Can something that has no end ever have a beginning?
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Of course. Phoenix myth always has them being originally born from some source of fire, and continuing their immortal lives from there.
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" It occurred to Remus then that Sirius was perhaps the smartest idiot he knew. A mind so sharp it could slice through the most convoluted of puzzles, and yet so flexible it repeatedly managed to sidestep the obvious answer"
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09-19-2004, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Slavik81
I wonder where Fawkes lived before it was with Dumbledor...
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I'm sure it'll be disclosed in book 6 or 7. |
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10-01-2004, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Village Dag
I'm sure it'll be disclosed in book 6 or 7.
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I'm not so sure about that. Fawkes seems like a small detail next to Harry learning that he has to kill Voldermort or be killed |
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10-02-2004, 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by squeaky yugi
I'm not so sure about that. Fawkes seems like a small detail next to Harry learning that he has to kill Voldermort or be killed
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But often times a small detail can be very improtant in harry potter.And J.k rowling seems to add a little bit of small stuff in every book so who know's?  |
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10-02-2004, 08:26 AM
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I'm not so sure about that. Fawkes seems like a small detail next to Harry learning that he has to kill Voldermort or be killed
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Aren't Fawkes' tail feathers the ones inside Harry and Voldemort's wands? If so, the makes the old bird a pretty big detail if you ask me...
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" It occurred to Remus then that Sirius was perhaps the smartest idiot he knew. A mind so sharp it could slice through the most convoluted of puzzles, and yet so flexible it repeatedly managed to sidestep the obvious answer"
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10-11-2004, 10:31 PM
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Fawkes is not part of the headmaster of hogwarts deal. When Harry went into Riddles book and saw Armando Dippet's office Fawkes was not there. It is possible that Dippet kept Fawkes somewhere else (maybe he was alergic to Phoenix feathers) but I doubt it.
I highly doubt JKR has changed anything as small as the lifespan of a Phoenix. She tends to make things up as she goes along so somthing like that wouldn't be changed unless it directly impacted the story.
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10-30-2004, 12:13 PM
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i was always under the impression that a phoenix egg hatches in flames, and then it continues to live and die forver after that. So Fawkes might not be very old. Still immortal, just young. Or maybe he's Dumbledores pet, and so was not in the head office when he wasn't head.
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10-31-2004, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by WoodenCoyote
Of course. Phoenix myth always has them being originally born from some source of fire, and continuing their immortal lives from there.
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10-31-2004, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Village Dag
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Mythology has always held the phoenix as immortal, so technically they have a beginning, yes, but not an end.
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10-31-2004, 11:40 AM
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Everything that exists has a beginning. Everything that has a beginning has an end.
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Beginning is such a stupid term. The fact that time can be bent and changed implies that there is a lot about it that isn't understood.
It might just be that we have an empiracal version of time that only works under a small set of cercumstances. The big bang is a much different set of cercumstances than how the universe is now. Perhaps time was changed then so there wasn't nesscessarly a beginning.
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