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Old 09-21-2009, 09:45 PM   #1
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Default Yu-Gi-Oh Conspiracy Theory...

Is it just me or does there seem to be a conspiracy regarding certain OCG cards and their release in the US market. For instance Makura the Destructor was banned almost immediately after release. The same can be said about Exchange of the Spirit. It seems however this conspiracy is limited to specific cards once they get mass released. For instance Crush Card Virus was difficult to get and short printed in the Gold Series but it wasn't banned until the Turbo Pack released and it became easily available. Coincidence? I think not. Don't get me wrong, cards are banned for good reasons but sometimes I wonder if there is some subtle ploy linked to it all... What are your thoughts?
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:47 PM   #2
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Old 09-21-2009, 09:49 PM   #3
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I agree with you. And so was summoner monk. I believe it was semi-limited before its release.
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I would like to respond with a decent comment, however, I feel it would instead be more appropriate to ask, exactly what is it your getting at. In my honest to earth opinion, the idea that their is some sort of conspiracy involving when said cards get banned in a children's card game, is absolute nonsense.
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well its more or elss the delays in relase

the ocg knows whats good and bans what dose the msot dmaage whenever a ban list hits that causes a issue for us for the most part do to the time of sets being released witch some do to copyright issues some time releaseissues with a few other cards and well a little bit of greed on a few ends as well
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whenever i have a good/great build it gets gutted. next up for the banlist is vayu or burial from a different dimension.
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whenever i have a good/great build it gets gutted. next up for the banlist is vayu or burial from a different dimension.
sadly i see bfadd i see gettign hit befor vayu

and on that note that is still a ways off unless we get a e ban like we use to for cards like cyebr stien and a few others
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Those cards aren't good enough for an e-ban.
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never thought about this before. good theory sir
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well its more or elss the delays in relase

the ocg knows whats good and bans what dose the msot dmaage whenever a ban list hits that causes a issue for us for the most part do to the time of sets being released witch some do to copyright issues some time releaseissues with a few other cards and well a little bit of greed on a few ends as well

THIS is the explanation to your conspiracy.

With a three month wait (minimum) between sets, and a six month rotating banlist, of course things will get hit in annoying ways right when they come out.
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Wouldn't it be "super special awesome" now that Konami has control of the TCG for them to, dare I say it, have world wide releases of future sets. Then they could include a batch of TCG and OCG exclusives in each set and then in 3 months release a TCG/OCG Extra Pack which cross releases the exclusive cards in the prior set.

Oh, and with the success and profitability of this children's card game among adults and young adults I wouldn't hesitate to believe in ulterior motives especially during the reign of Upper Deck. Don't even get me started on the Bush administration.
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This sounds pretty true to me.
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are you people serious?

look at the cards he mentioned...Makyura and Exchange...

OTK cards.

makes perfect sense to me that they were banned near their release to avoid warping the environment to an un-fun one.
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are you people serious?

look at the cards he mentioned...Makyura and Exchange...

OTK cards.

makes perfect sense to me that they were banned near their release to avoid warping the environment to an un-fun one.
Wait, what?

Logic... On Pojo?
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Old 09-21-2009, 11:29 PM   #15
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Conspiracy theories are easy to make up since they do not require concrete proof. Here's why it most likely isn't a conspiracy: What does a company gain in restricting cardboard to its costumers?
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While it makes sense in the metagame perspective, it's stupid in two other dimensions:

1) It decreases the desire for "chase cards," which hurts the sales of the product.

2) It's unfair to the players who have waited years for these cards, esp. in the case of cards like Crush Card Virus that had been available as a Structure Deck Common since the early years of the game.

While you can argue that Konami is "taking steps to avoid problems similar to ones that have occurred in the OCG," you could also say they're robbing us of our chance to experiment with certain cards and see for ourselves what they are capable of.

While I don't advocate not banning these cards, I feel that Konami should strive to release them no less than two months (one third of a format) prior to when the next Forbidden List goes into effect. That way, players get a chance to experiment with the cards--and spend money on the product--without giving it as much time as needed to truly take hold and cause serious damage to the metagame.
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Konami releases cards into the TCG with help from the Ghost Ruins of Atlantis, funded by Nazi gold from the moon, and brainwashes every person within Al Qaeda's mind control towers to buy packs and then **** Cheney bans it.

I'm bored.

Edit: Ha, our ex-vice president is a curse word.
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Wow. **** Cheney clearly doesn't want to be heard on Pojo.

I wonder about **** van Dyke.
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Three cards in ten years is not a conspiracy.
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Is too a conspiracy. The Japanese are trying to subjugate and oppress AMERICA .. through YGO cards
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Three cards in ten years is not a conspiracy.
That's just what THEY want you to think.
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Well I recently looked up the seal of orichalcos. That thing isn't even released in the Us only 15 copies and the judge people have it. It's still illegal and if that's not worse theres some weird **** with people saying the seal has Enochian letters and all this weird Black magic crap.
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Like some other people on these page said Konami all about profit they cant go having us people outside of Japan mostly America getting easy to get tournament level card without us pay big dollars over it. Look at lightsworn being untouched by the ban list and DAD deck taking a long time to get nerfed. Whenever something good come over here in a easy to get pack, they will restrict it before that thing see the light of day in a tournament.

Konami knows whats going to make them money cause they know there japanese players have more knowledge of making decks than everybody else.
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Well I recently looked up the seal of orichalcos. That thing isn't even released in the Us only 15 copies and the judge people have it. It's still illegal and if that's not worse theres some weird **** with people saying the seal has Enochian letters and all this weird Black magic crap.
Yeah, I have a copy, but I had to trade 16 gallons of elf blood for it. Do you know how much it costs to FedEx that much elf blood to Japan? It ain't cheap.
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