Esper (With the Tezz)

Iggy · 05-01-2009, 05:18 PM

Well it's time for me to build a block deck and I saw Tezzeret when he came out and I loved him He's KIND OF like Garruk with his untap two artifacts ability and his ultimate is even insaner, but I cant get a list work very well so maybe you guys could help me. Note not everything is going to be an artifact.

creatures:19
4xMedling Mage
4xTidehollow Sculler
4xEtherium Sculptor
4xMaster of Etherium
3xSentriplets

Artifacts:12
4xBonesaw(its free)
4xCourier's Capsule
4xExcecutioner's Capsule

Instant/Sorcery/P-Walkers:11
4xEsper Charm
3xTezzeret the Seeker
4xPath to Exile

Land: 18
4xArcane Sanctum
4xEsper Panorama
5xIsland
3xswamp
2xPlains

poketo · 05-01-2009, 08:32 PM

Hmmm... I have something that is esper but I am liking controll...
I would not use bonesaw eventho it is free because it costs 1 to equip and it only gives +1/+0 or something like that...
I would not think 18 is that great of an idea with the fact that only you would only have 14 at max unless you keep panoramas at the end...
Esper is artifact creatures but most of the fun artifacts are just that artifacts... they can stop some things coming at you and set up easier.

Iggy · 05-09-2009, 08:03 AM

So how would you suggest I change this I kind of like going the route of Esper control but I dont know if thats possible in block.

Catastrophe_2 · 05-09-2009, 05:10 PM

Needs moar Borderposts. Tezzeret + Borderposts = Block-legal Garruk = lots of mana = good. Adding 4-6 Border posts would do your deck alot of good, giving it alot more Artifacts to play with and upping your land count (and turinig them into 5/5 beaters with Tezzeret is always awesome)). However, I'd suggest you replace the Panoramas with more basics.

Since you're going down the Artifact-heavy route, it would be a sin to not include any Sharuums (if you're on a budget, I guess Sanctum Gargoyles could work too). Other beaters you could consider are Enigma Sphinx (who brings friends with him) and Sphinx of the Steel Wind (aka A-chrome-a).

A control usually has less creatures than the opponent, so board sweeping cards are strongly suggested. I'd maindeck both Infest and Martial Coup.

Iggy · 05-09-2009, 05:50 PM

well I can let you guys know that on bloxk decks I spend more then normal just because they are more fun so cost really isnt a problem.thanks for the suggestion I kind of need a ruugh idea of the of the numbers

poketo · 05-10-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

So how would you suggest I change this I kind of like going the route of Esper control but I dont know if thats possible in block.

Try getting 2 or 3 Scourglass, it is the board clearer of the block so if you have that in your field will make it your Wrath of God but it will only destroy during your Upkeep...

If you have some Ethersworn Canonist put those in as well... your deck is mostly artifacts and if you are going to be controlling, Ethersworn stops anything but Artifacts coming out so you can summon many artifacts and yet only need to counter 1 spell...

You would maybe have a few counter spells (8 at most) to counter because your deck would be a field fixing deck so maybe 4 Cancel and 4 Countersquall (its an uncommon so you could try finding something less expensive), for Sorceries and Instants.

Really that is a basic idea of an Esper Control... I would have put some more ideas for it but I g2g and I would like to keep some of them to my self

Iggy · 05-10-2009, 08:55 AM

Well thanks for the idea Poketo. I think I will also try a few cumberstones to help slow down the aggro as well unless I deciede to go jund control.

Catastrophe_2 · 05-10-2009, 12:08 PM

No Cumberstones. At 4 mana it comes down too late against most Aggro. And even then, the effect is minimal. Exalted decks just laugh at it (between Rafiq and Finest Hour, they still deal massive damage), Naya Aggro shrugs it off (Woolly Thoctar isn't really crippled, most of their damage will be already dealt before turn 4 and Sarkhan Vol/Elspeth flat-out cancel it's effect). The only time it's good is after an opposing Martial Coup.

I'd use Infest instead. 3 mana and actually kills the creatures instead of diminishing their damage.

Iggy · 05-10-2009, 04:24 PM

so maybe just a version that runs minimal creatures then like tidehollow sculler and sen triplets?

nutter-butters · 05-17-2009, 06:38 AM

i had a esper dek before alara reborn and heres a list minus the lands and it seemed to wreck havoc build it and test

creatures-

4-etherem scuptor
4-master of etherem
2-sactum gargoye
2-master transmuter
3-sphinx summoner
1-shruum the hedgemon
2-adjucators
4-tidehollow sculler
non creatures

4-cour capsules
3-esper charm
4-path to exile
2-marshall coupe
3 tezzeret the seeker

Iggy · 05-17-2009, 08:31 AM

I'm going control though. I'm actually thinking of having my list look like this.

Creatures:11
4xTidehollow Sculler
4xMaster of Etherium(With borderposts this guy is house)
2-3xEthersworn Ajudicator/Enigma spinx

Spells/etc:
4xCourier's capsule
4xU/W Borderpost
4xU/B Borderpost
3xPath to Exile
4xCancel
2xAgony Warp
3xEsper Charm

Land:25
4xArcane Santum
3xEsper Panorama
13xIsland
5xPlains

Catastrophe_2 · 05-17-2009, 10:32 AM

25 lands + 8 Borderposts = woah, that's a lot of mana. Drop the Panoramas and at least 3 Borderposts and 4 lands so that your mana count gets to 24. Borderposts serve pretty much as Invasion CITP lands anyways.

With those 7 new slots I'd suggest adding Infests (you need it against some decks) and Countersqualls (counters from Cruel Ultimatum to Planeswalkers. What's not to like?). That would probably mean that you'll have to replace some Islands with Swamps though.

Iggy · 05-18-2009, 02:14 PM

Yeah I noticed I had no mass removal so prob. add in 4 infest and 3 sqaul

poketo · 05-18-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy

I'm going control though. I'm actually thinking of having my list look like this.

Creatures:11
4xTidehollow Sculler
4xMaster of Etherium(With borderposts this guy is house)
2-3xEthersworn Ajudicator/Enigma spinx

Spells/etc:
4xCourier's capsule
4xU/W Borderpost
4xU/B Borderpost
3xPath to Exile
4xCancel
2xAgony Warp
3xEsper Charm

Land:25
4xArcane Santum
3xEsper Panorama
13xIsland
5xPlains

Here would be my Control Esper which is about little creatures and has a side board with something for a creature deck

Creatures 4
1 Ethersworn Canonists
3 Tidehollow Sculler

Instants 13
3 Offering to Asha
4 Cancel
2 Traumatic Visions
4 Countersquall
3 Esper Charm

Artifacts 15
3 Fieldmist Borderpost
2 Mistveil Borderpost
2 Courier's Capsule
2 Scepter of Dominance
2 Scourglass
2 Etherwrought Page

Enchantments 4
4 Oblivion Ring

Sorceries 5
4 Mind Funeral
1 Telemin Performance

Lands 18
6 Plains
6 Island
5 Swamp
1 Arcane Sanctum

Sideboard 15 (but missing two)
3 Celestial Purge
4 Soul Manipulation
2 Tower Gargoyle
4 Vectis Dominator

The idea of this is to have your Artifacts control what is already in play while countering and using my Mind Funeral to deck them out when they get lands out. It is a fun decklist and can annoy but with some shortages of uncommons and rares it can still do good.

Iggy · 05-19-2009, 02:35 PM

Total cost on that deck poketo?

poketo · 05-19-2009, 03:57 PM

Idk i pulled this off of 32 packs of all 3 sets... >.>
most of it has Commons/Uncommons so it shouldn't be very expensive.
I am pretty sure a lot of the commons are less than a buck for 2-4 while uncommons could be 1-2 for $2/$3;

I don't have mythic so you may want to look at some of those things so I would say it is about yours...

Additional Comment:

Quote:

Originally Posted by poketo

Creatures 4
1 Ethersworn Canonists 3.05-5.99
3 Tidehollow Sculler (You are already getting them)

Instants 13
3 Offering to Asha .09-.52
4 Cancel (You are already getting them)
2 Traumatic Visions .10-.52
4 Countersquall .69-1.06
3 Esper Charm (You have same amount going)

Artifacts 15
3 Fieldmist Borderpost (You are using more)
2 Mistveil Borderpost (You are using more)
2 Courier's Capsule (You are using more (I have lost my copies))
2 Scepter of Dominance .59-.99 (For a rare?)
2 Scourglass 1.50-2.49
2 Etherwrought Page .15-.52

Enchantments 4
4 Oblivion Ring (Cheap)

Sorceries 5
4 Mind Funeral .69-1.55
1 Telemin Performance .59-.99

Lands 18
6 Plains
6 Island
5 Swamp
1 Arcane Sanctum

Sideboard 15 (but missing two)
3 Celestial Purge .30-1.06
4 Soul Manipulation .12-.52
2 Tower Gargoyle .14-.79
4 Vectis Dominator .09-.52
2 Slave of Bolas .19-.52

Those are from magiccards.info and most I got out of packs... I have added the last two cards as well...

Creatures are not first pick in my Control because I have a hard time with them when I can clear the board anyway...

This is more of a budget but it would be how you look at it...

Iggy · 05-20-2009, 03:05 PM

Alright that seems pretty cheap then. The one problem I have is how do I deal with things as efficentley as the standard version of this deck.

poketo · 05-20-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iggy

Alright that seems pretty cheap then. The one problem I have is how do I deal with things as efficentley as the standard version of this deck.

If you would go standard you would do some things like Icy Manipulator and the apporite opposites of them...

LowFr3eq · 05-24-2009, 05:33 AM

I have been experimenting with block esper for a week or so now, and have found that my first, super aggressive builld way way better than the semi-control build I have now with scullers and other stuff that only costs coloured mana.

I found that creatures like esperzoa, master, Glaze fiend, sharding sphinx, and sharuum want to attack as mush as possible.

esperzoa + kaliedostone is a very handy combo, and keeping things like kaleidostones of the battlefield is really helpful for master of etherium.

This strategy rips through token decks like nothing at all, especially if you main 2 copies of zealous persecution like I do. glaze fiend gets very strong, very fast, especially with thopter foundry.

However...

There is another list I have yet to test yet, and it is focussed on 2 things: control the board until you have a 6 count Tezzeret the Seeker and about 8 artifacts like borderposts, kaleidostone, scultor etc. Use his ultimate, attack for game. considering that you can use countersquall, cancel, path to exile, oblivion ring etc in this deck easily, is pretty good. I recomend 4 tidehollow scullers in this build so you know what counter mana to keep open.

In conclusion, esper is a very powerful block deck, and I expect it will be a popular choice for standard later on this year(I tested these decks with duress lol

).