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Old 12-24-2008, 01:43 PM   #1
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Default Dark Illusion Vs Solumn Judgment??

I probly already know the answer to this, but I need clarification....

If I am summoning a monster like say DaD, and opponant plays SJ, and I counter with Dark illusion...does that house SJ??

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Negates and destroys effect monster, Magic, and trap that targets face up Dark monster on field.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:51 PM   #2
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No, Illusion won't work. Solemn does not target the card it negates, so Illusion would not work. It also would not work if someone used BTH, because BTH hits more than 1 monster, and gets rid of everything summoned when BTH was used. However, you can use priority with DAD's effect with BTH, not w/ Solemn however. BTH was just another example.
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:53 PM   #3
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I know about BTH, but solemn does say that it spacifically negates and destroys..does it not?
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Old 12-24-2008, 01:56 PM   #4
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I know about BTH, but solemn does say that it spacifically negates and destroys..does it not?
Well, rulings say differently. Look at this link from the YuGiOh wiki:

"Solemn Judgment" cannot negate a Special Summon if it results from the activated effect of a monster card, like "Mystic Tomato", "Light and Darkness Dragon", "Van'Dalgyon the Dark Dragon Lord", "Marauding Captain", "Lonefire Blossom", etc.[1]
"Solemn Judgment" can negate the Special Summon of a monster that is Special Summoned through its own inherent Special Summon effect that does not start a Chain, like "Cyber Dragon", "The Fiend Megacyber", "Dark Necrofear", "Dark Armed Dragon", "Judgment Dragon", "Gladiator Beast Gyzarus", "Elemental Hero Storm Neos", etc.[1]
You cannot negate the Special Summon of a monster after it is Special Summoned with a Spell or Trap Card, but you can use "Solemn Judgment" to negate the activation of the Spell or Trap Card.[1]
If halving your Life Points results in a fraction, your Life Points are rounded up.[1]
"Solemn Judgment" does not target the card it will destroy.[1]
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:04 PM   #5
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Thank you!
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:47 PM   #6
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♠ "Solemn Judgment" does not target the card it will destroy.

So Dark Illusion won't work
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:09 PM   #7
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What IS Dark Illusion good for?
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:20 PM   #8
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Counter traps DO NOT target (the only exception is negate attack).
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:38 PM   #9
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Counter traps DO NOT target (the only exception is negate attack).

Oh really? Even Divine Wrath?
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Oh really? Even Divine Wrath?
YARLY.
Even divine wrath :P
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So, is Dark Illusion even good? What can it stop?
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:15 PM   #12
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So, is Dark Illusion even good? What can it stop?
It stops Phoenix Wing Wind Blast.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:19 PM   #13
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It stops Phoenix Wing Wind Blast.
That's it?
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:27 PM   #14
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That's it?
Brain Control, Celestia, Gyzarus, Di-Prison, Compulsory Evacuation etc.
It is a good and unexpected card, the problem with it is that it might become a dead-draw.There are better 1 for 1 cards out there..
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Old 12-24-2008, 05:42 PM   #15
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Yeah, too situational for me then.
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Old 12-24-2008, 06:38 PM   #16
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Dark Illusion is a good card but the problem is that lots of players are using cards dont target so much anymore.

Dark Illusion will currently save you from

Book Of Moon
Shrink
Enemy Controller
Brain Control

which means are you really going to use this card to save you from only 2-3 cards ? versatility is much better if you can use any of the following Solemn, Bribe, Magic Drain first.
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Old 12-25-2008, 09:17 AM   #17
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Solemn is better. This card is too situational. Example: You can't use dark illusion against Synchro summon.
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