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Old 12-03-2008, 10:52 PM   #1
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Default Twilight Dragon "9 star Synchro"

Twilight Dragon
9 stars/ Light/ Dragon/ Synchro
Atk 3200 Def 1800
Effect
1 Tuner + 2 or more non-Tuner monster
When this monster destroys an opponents monster in battle you can remove 1 Light and 1 Dark monster from your graveyard to Special Summon a Twilight Monster Token (Dark/Dragon/Lvl 3/ Atk ?/ Def 0) with a attack equal to half the total ATK of the removed monsters. Monsters removed by this effect are removed from the duel.

Updated the card per suggestion. Still may leave last effect or may just remove all together.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:49 AM   #2
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Twilight Dragon
9 stars/ Light/ Dragon/ Synchro
Atk 3200 Def 1800
Effect
1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monster
When this monster destroys an opponents monster in battle you can remove 1 Light and 1 Dark to Special Summon a Twilight Token with a attack equal to the total ATK of the removed monsters. Monsters removed by this effect are removed from the duel.
Still needs further toning down of its power level. A non-synchro material specific level 9 Synchro should have the tuning requirements as follows:
1 Tuner + 2 or more non-Tuner monster
This will make the cost of summoning the card much more difficult and would require more thought to its summoning rather than just Malicious + Commander.

Needs clarification on what exactly is a Twilight Token (ATTRIBUTE/TYPE/LEVEL/ATK/DEF). Tokens are treated as monsters and need defined stats as well.

The last effect doesn't seem necessary in curbing this card's effect, since there are far more efficient ways to remove monsters from play. Rather, how about the token lasting just the turn, or just gaining ATK of one of the removed from play monsters?

And any monster this costly would do well to have some sort of self protection effect, even if its a very small one.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:20 PM   #4
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Now that's a well designed, well balanced level 9 Synchro monster.

I say keep the last effect in the off chance D.fusion or Return from DD become more liberally placed on the ban list.
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You can't really make cards that remove from the duel for good. It would be a new idea but the problem I think is that it would be difficult to decide what was removed by that effect and what has been removed by other effects unless you make a new card zone or whatever.
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You can't really make cards that remove from the duel for good. It would be a new idea but the problem I think is that it would be difficult to decide what was removed by that effect and what has been removed by other effects unless you make a new card zone or whatever.
Effects like Lightforce Sword and DD Capsule designate specific cards in the removed from play zone (in this case they are designated by being face-down). If this card is treated like those two, then I think it would be safe to say one could differentiate removed from play cards by special conditions of how certain cards should be treated.
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