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Old 03-25-2008, 01:53 PM   #1
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Default PTDN - Rarity Ratio (Box)

Okay, so after recently buying 4 boxes (24 pack) and 15 packs of a remaining box, I'd like to ask a question.

What's the ratio of secret rares & ultimate rares per box? I know it's like 1:12 for Ultra, 1:5 Super, 1:1 Rare and 8:1 common, but what have your experiences been like when buying boxes?

In the 15 packs I bought out of the remaining box, I pulled:

1 Darklord Zerato (Secret)
1 Yubel - Terror Incarnite (Ultimate)
1 Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth (Ultra)
1 Field-Commander Rahz (Super)
1 Cyber Valley (Super)
1 Volcanic Counter (Super)

And the rest were crap rares. 6/15 packs had a super+ rarity card. I have yet to receive the 4 boxes, as they were ordered.

Idea's/thoughts/experiences? This isn't a "what you pulled" thread, I just want to know ratio experiences/idea's!
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:57 PM   #2
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secret 1:48 ultimate i would think 1:24 because you usually get one a box
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Old 03-25-2008, 01:58 PM   #3
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secret 1:48 ultimate i would think 1:24 because you usally get one a box
So, there's not even 1 secret per box? Like in the oldn' days.
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In a case (which is 12 boxes) there are at least 10 SCRs. All of the boxes that i have bought i got 1 SCR and 1 ULT per box
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In my experience, it's somewhere between 1:24 and 1:30.
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:05 PM   #6
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In a case (which is 12 boxes) there are at least 10 SCRs. All of the boxes that i have bought i got 1 SCR and 1 ULT per box
So I'd assume it's a 80% chance of pulling a secret per box. What about ultimate rares? The same?

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In my experience, it's somewhere between 1:24 and 1:30.
What about hobby boxes? (20)
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:08 PM   #7
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i've seen boxes without secrets and ultimates
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There's no such thing as "hobby boxes" anymore - just "boxes". Ultimates are 1 per box, SCRs are 1 per most boxes. The "At least 10 per case of 12 boxes" figure expressed earlier is accurate.

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Old 03-25-2008, 02:10 PM   #9
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There's no such thing as "hobby boxes" anymore - just "boxes". Ultimates are 1 per box, SCRs are 1 per most boxes. The "At least 10 per case of 12 boxes" figure expressed earlier is accurate.

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Thanks, has anyone pulled 2 super/ultimate in a PTDN yet?
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:11 PM   #10
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I actually got a pack the other week that had 10 cards, it had the second Yubel form ultimate and Dark Nephethys Ult.

But as of late my pulls have been sub-par.
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I actually got a pack the other week that had 10 cards, it had the second Yubel form ultimate and Dark Nephethys Ult.

But as of late my pulls have been sub-par.
Don't get me wrong, this isn't a pull thread. I just wanted to know experiences with ratios. But thanks for the heads up on the double rarity pull.
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I bought 3-4 boxes...pretty much was 50% good 50% bad...No cyber valley...which seems a little wierd...

2 Rainbow Dark Dragon
1 Creator
1 Rainbow Neos GR
2 Allure


Those were pretty much the good stuff...around $30-40 a piece (minus neos)...didn't really pay for box, but still ok...

I just hated how 1 box had no SCR, where the other box had 2...dont get me wrong...it is still the same, yet if I had bought only the box with no SCR's I would have been pissed.
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I bought 3-4 boxes...pretty much was 50% good 50% bad...No cyber valley...which seems a little wierd...

2 Rainbow Dark Dragon
1 Creator
1 Rainbow Neos GR
2 Allure


Those were pretty much the good stuff...around $30-40 a piece (minus neos)...didn't really pay for box, but still ok...

I just hated how 1 box had no SCR, where the other box had 2...dont get me wrong...it is still the same, yet if I had bought only the box with no SCR's I would have been pissed.
I will shoot my toes if all 4 boxes = no secrets. :/
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I just had to delete a bunch of scaling-related posts here. This is not a thread about scaling, it's a thread about pull ratios. If anyone else would like to discuss scaling, please do so in the scaling thread. This is, for reference, a warning.

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On Average, a box has:

1 Secret Rare/Ghost Rare (althought there could be both in one box, as their ratios are different)
1 Ultimate Rare
2 Ultra Rares
4-6 Super Rares

But boxes have had two ultimates, two secrets, a ghost and a secret, three to four ultras, etc.
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On Average, a box has:

1 Secret Rare/Ghost Rare (althought there could be both in one box, as their ratios are different)
1 Ultimate Rare
2 Ultra Rares
4-6 Super Rares

But boxes have had two ultimates, two secrets, a ghost and a secret, three to four ultras, etc.
Yeah, and aren't they packaged at random too? So there's no 100% guarentee?
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