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RCG_ · 07-08-2004, 06:30 PM

Don't combine this thread. That "official thread" can be about rumors and release date stuff or whatever, but no one is reading the first 150 posts.

Ok, this is a logical approach to predicting what will happen in the 6th book. Please help. I’ve got some great stuff from other boards and posts on this board. Ok, from the beginning:

- In the beginning chapters, what do we know that will affect Harry? 1.) Sirius is dead, so instead of a hormone-raging, temper-flaring Harry in Book 5, we’re probably going to see a depressed Harry, which surprisingly hasn’t occurred to many people. I mean, on the train back, he was mellow, maybe from shock, but just a month of loneliness at the Dursleys is gonna get him thinking like he always does on Privet Drive. I predict the first few chapters of Book 6 are going to be sad and JK will be able to touch the sympathetic side as we read Harry’s story in Book 6. 2.) Since Harry will be thinking, Cho will probably come up a little too. From a recent chat session with JK, we know Cho is gone for sure, but there still will probably be closure. I think it will be in a nice tone too. I doubt JK intended for people to hate Cho Chang - even though a lot do. This will be her closure I believe. 3.) Harry now knows he has to take out Voldemort to end the war. How does one deal with that? Harry’s gonna have a loooong summer with thoughts of Bellatrix and Voldemort in his thoughts. Overall, we’re going to probably see a depressed, lonely, revenge-seeking Harry, but this will be a bonus for Harry fans, because most likely Harry’s going to finally become the powerful wizard that he was supposed to be. He EASILY has the most talent at Hogwarts - that is so obvious. Maybe he’ll finally have the power to back it up.

- As for things that we KNOW will happen, here are some interesting facts gathered by Bucosfan, a member of the Pojo HP board:

- Harry will be in his sixth year at Hogwarts in book six.
- Neville will need another wand to replace that which was broken in the Department of Mysteries.
- Hermione's year-long ban on Rita Skeeter's writing will end.
- "Ministry...guides to elementary home and personal defense...will be delivered free to all wizarding homes [by the end of July] (OP38)." Depending on the definition of "wizarding home", this may come as a bit of a shock to the families of Muggle-born students such as Dean Thomas, who hasn't kept his family informed about the various dangerous happenings at Hogwarts in the last few years (OP11).
- In July, each of the returning sixth year students will receive an owl with their Ordinary Wizarding Level results (OP31).
- If the Quidditch season takes place as usual, the Gryffindor team will hold tryouts for at least two Chaser positions. If Harry has been reinstated as Seeker by then, Ginny Weasley plans to try out for Chaser at that point (OP26). Gryffindor will also need a new team captain.
- In March of the second term, Ron will turn seventeen, and will therefore be of age in the wizarding world and old enough to obtain a license to Apparate.”

Ok, so some of this is really important. Rita Skeeter being able to write should be interesting, because she could either be vengeful or come to her senses and right truthfully from now on. I have a feeling she has some part to play again. People try to argue that Ron is going to get everything he saw in the mirror of Erised, but I’m sorry, a snowball has a better chance is hell than Ron becoming Quidditch Captain. Harry is the man - don’t argue that Ron can somehow get captainship over Harry. Head Boy? Maybe, even though if Voldemort hadn’t existed, Harry would have been prefect and eventually Head Boy. Dumbledore confirmed this for us. But Harry will be captain unless he loses his leg, if not in book 6 then in book 7. I find it interesting that Ron can learn to Apparate by the end of Book 6. Also, Harry will be able to start right after. I always wondered how JK will approach that. Since everything is from Harry’s point of view, he’ll be able to witness what happens and the process of learning. I think THAT will be a great read.

Ok, moving on to a subject I love discussing and guessing on - the O.W.L.S. Ok to list, there are 12 possible O.W.L.S. Hermione can’t get all 12, which is weird, because other people have (Dawlish even got outstandings on all his NEWTs), but she’s easily brighter than those people. Anyways, she can only get 10, because she dropped Divination and Muggle Studies leaving her with DADA, Potions, Transfiguration, Herbology, Charms, Ancient Runes, Astrology, Care of Magical Creatures, History of Magic, and Arithmancy . Harry, I believe will get 8 or 9. I think he’ll get an outstanding in DADA, Care of Magical Creatures, Potions (yes, potions, I’ll explain why.), and Charms (helped by his corporeal Patronus). I think he’ll get an Exceeds Expectations in Transfiguration and Herbology, and the wild cards are Divination, History of Magic, and Astrology. Harry said he did horrible in Divination, but I have a sneaking suspicion the grading standards will be really low. History of Magic and Astrology he didn’t get to finish, but he could still get Acceptable’s. Ron, I believe will get 6. He’s an average joe kind of character and should do well in DADA, Charms, Care of Magical Creatures, and hopefully well enough in Transfiguration and Herbology. Now, when it comes to potions, I think Harry was confident enough to get an Exceeds Expectations without Snape watching, but I think Dumbledore might intercede, like he’s done before, so that Harry can continue on the path of being an Auror, because Harry needs an Outstanding in potions.

Ok, so now we move onto the rest of the stuff we KNOW will happen. Fudge will get ousted as Minister of Magic. We know that much; what we don’t know is who even has a chance. I’m glad there’s no possibility of Lucius Malfoy - that’s a good thing. Widespread opinion is Arthur Weasley, but I have to say, that’s a little on the absurd side. He’s not highly considered by most in the ministry and I think it would make him a serious target - something he, and definitely Mrs. Weasley, doesn’t want. I think the most obvious decision is Amelia Bones. She’s been mentioned as a strong, unbiased Ministry member and a veteran of Magical politics. She’s my vote.

Here are some other things to expect, according to JK’s chat session:

- We know Pettigrew has a big part in Book from JK’s recent chat session. At least, we get to know more about him anyways.
- Voldemort’s birth is also put into light.
- Harry finally becomes as powerful as he’s supposed to be.

Ok, so then we’re left with just predictions and here are mine according to what I know and how JK works:

- I think the war is going to begin and quickly. Voldemort now has to act because he’s no secret and the Order is much bigger than it was a decade and a half ago. I suspect Lucius andthe rest of the Death Eaters aren’t going to be in prison for very long and that Harry might have a run-in with another Dementor or two.

- The Half Blood Prince connotes that the “racism-type” issue of family blood is the main theme in all of this. Since Voldemort is half-blood and few people (including his death eaters) know that, that’s probably going to turn out to be a really interesting issue.

- Then there’s all the minor stuff. Hagrid’s brother is still alive and kickin and he is more manageable, JK said. Percy is going to have to face the music of being wrong. It should be interesting what his reaction is to how he treated his family and Harry. Will he be remorseful or resentful? People got irritated with Percy, but he’s still a good guy and still a Weasley. I hope JK shows him turn a new leaf. A new DADA teacher is going to have to be picked. I’m hoping it’s Snape. If Snape finally got the job, then Harry would be at such an advantage! Snape couldn’t possibly mark Harry down in the class at which he has excelled over everyone in his grade since day 1 and Harry could then do much better in Potions. Of course, I doubt this will happen because there’s probably a really good reason why Dumbledore refuses to give Snape the job (especially when people like Lockhart and Umbridge are other options.) And I hope this is finally explained as well as what Snape did while he was a Death Eater, why he turned, and what he did when Voldemort came back that was such a ministry. There are a lot of mysteries surrounding Snape that need to be answered.

- And my last prediction for book 6 is that JK will finally put a stamp on who Hermione ends up with, which I think will do ALL of us a LOT of good. There have been endless debates that will never stop until JK says so, but sometimes people become hateful - it’s the passion of the topic. If JK did confirm anything, we could finally move past and the shippers of the losing cause could lick their wounds before we get Book 7. Of course, no one might end up with anyone, but I think Book 6 is where we find out who Hermione’s love is, if there is one.

Well, that’s it! Add your own and comment on mine, but I think it’s time to really get into it!

Village Dag · 07-08-2004, 06:43 PM

They should explore the character of Luna heaps more. I mean, she could sympathise with Harry about seeing the Thestrals. (they would make a good couple aswell) Maybe even see if she's got anything to do with Lupin.

Also, since Sirius was the godfather of Harry, and Sirius' cousin was Nacina Malfoy, I reckon they should dwell a bit on that since that means that Harry and Draco are interelated.

For two books they should have one DADA teacher. And Snape, as much as a good choice he is, seems a tad to predictable for JK.

And for lasters, maybe Fred and George could become staff members at Hogwarts.

07-08-2004, 08:01 PM

hey RCG, i am with you 100%, i think you backed me up when i started the same kind of sixth book prediction thread that got merged. i hate merges but it'll probably happen...i think you covered just about everything that should happen. i really hope that they re-instate quidditch.

couples:
Cho and Harry
Hermione and Ron
Draco and Pansy
Crabbe and Goyle

BerserkerAzn · 07-09-2004, 07:33 AM

I'm guessing that something's gonna happpen with all those creatures mentioned by Luna be they fake or not.

Airknight · 07-09-2004, 08:32 AM

i predict that Hermione is going join YOU-KNOW-WHO...J/K, would be funny if it was true.

07-09-2004, 01:56 PM

i read somewhere that jk hinted that the mirror that harry has was not important in OTP but will be VERY important come the last two books...

nIgHtFiRe239 · 07-09-2004, 02:01 PM

I agree with you 100% RCG_.

crazynig1086 · 07-09-2004, 04:07 PM

I also agree with you 100%.

Umbra · 07-09-2004, 11:24 PM

Actually, I think hermione could score in muggle studies too, I say this because, if using AP tests as an example, you can take the test w/o taking the class.

RCG_ · 07-09-2004, 11:28 PM

well in that case, Harry would probably have gotten an owl as well in that subject since he knows all about them, like Hermione.

Hehe Bucos, it's all about Harry and Hermione! :P

djcati · 07-10-2004, 01:49 PM

Whatever AP is, it doesn't exist in Britain. Don't take the exam, you don't get a grade.

Maybe, even though if Voldemort hadn’t existed, Harry would have been prefect and eventually Head Boy

If Voldemort hadn't existed, Harry would be a regular boy growing up in the wizarding world and would never have had to try nearly as hard to make an impression, and so wouldn't be used to it, and so no, it's not definite that he would be a prefect.

Cho and Harry - no. Cho's done. We might see her again, but not as a romantic match for Harry. Either Luna or Hermione, methinks, and more likely Hermione.
Ginny, well, possibly, but we haven't seen anything that isn't one-sided with that 'ship. Even though it's from Harry's POV, we actually don't really know how he sees Ginny other than as Ron's little sister. So... actually, that's kind of a wild card. huh.
Note that this is if Harry ends up with anyone at all. He may not have another romantic relationship in Hogwarts. Who knows ('cept JK)

The depression thing, yes, that's what I was thinking. He's not angry anymore, he's more mature and has grown up. The real world and all its terrible consequences, for the most foolish things, has hit him hard. Sure, OK, he sorta got that at the end of book 4, with Cedric dying, but now he knows that his friends and family aren't invincible anymore. That little protective bubble, the one that meant they always pulled through at the last minute, has burst. Very 'Vector Prime'.
So, depression.

I'm thinking there'll be more with Lupin, too. Like I said in the other thread, Lupin is now one of the few major influences in Harry's life.
There's Dumbledore, but Harry's unwavering faith in him has, well, wavered now, because he thinks Dumbledore doesn't trust him (even after that talk at the end of OotP)
The Weasley's (esp. Molly) will always take care of Harry, but again, like I said, it's not parental care he needs at the moment. He needs someone to be a best friend, someone for advice, someone he can totally trust in, and that was Sirius. Now, I think it has to be Lupin.
Lupin, however, may not be up to that. He's just lost his best friend in the world - now, the only person he has is Harry. (And the Order, but he was mostly close to Sirius). Poor guy, really - James is long dead, Peter's a traitor, and now Sirius is dead too. Lupin's the last of the Marauders. That means something.

I didn't know Peter was going to have a bigger role in book 6... hm..
He's apparently in debt to Harry, right? (re: PoA) Must be something to do with that.
Got no theories though...

Tonks. I want to see more of Tonks. Since (apart from Fred&George) she's the youngest of the Order, and we saw in OotP that she was more friendly with the kids than the adults, she'll probably have more of a role too.
Again, no real theories, but she could be a friend to Harry, too, if Lupin's not up to fully taking Sirius' place.

uh... I think that's it.
But I really, really don't think Petunia's a witch. I think she might be more understanding of the wizarding world now, especially since we know that she knows about Voldemort from last time, but I just don't see her being a witch. She was jealous of Lily, and turned it into hate against the wizarding world in general. Because she was jealous, not because she actually has any underlying resentment towards magic.
Of course, that's just my opinion, but I really think the people who say "Petunia is a witch, too" have watched too much Star Wars - and that's saying something coming from me.

Village Dag · 07-10-2004, 04:26 PM

Actually, I'd like to see Harry devoid of any relationships. (as in girlfriend, fiancee etc.) That sounds a bit more realistic. He could come out of the closet if he is so. But, I hope to all hell IT IS NOT HERMIONE.

Charninja · 07-10-2004, 04:55 PM

Hermione will die a virgin. The chick who plays her in the movies however (I seriously can't remember her name)...well... *ahem*

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Tonks joins with Harry. It has about as much chance as an ant in a microwave, but it would certainly be funny as hell. Either that, or Malfoy finally admit's he's gay, and takes Harry so forcefully that Harry could no longer ever say no to him. Again, ant and microwave, but still just as hilarious.

WildWill · 07-10-2004, 04:58 PM

You know what RCG? When you're a moderator you can go ahead and make up rules...but you're not. And just because YOU don't think people are reading the lengthy post doesn't mean other people aren't.

However, I will let this go, if you stop whining.

Again, thank your lucky stars you still HAVE a Harry Potter forum. It was seriously going to be retired on the board move...so whining about it being moderated isn't really smart. When no one else wants to moderate it, guess what's going to happen?

Charninja · 07-10-2004, 06:09 PM

We love you Will. I have a cousin that wants to have your baby.

Somehow... I get the feeling that Ron will remain just as virginal as Hermione. Unless wizards have some weird version of **** stars... but that really doesn't bare thinking about, all things considered

Mystic Reaper · 07-11-2004, 05:25 AM

without hermone, we will never see emma watson on the screen again......dam shes hot and needs a camio for a harry potter book

Village Dag · 07-11-2004, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RCG_

Show me one person who does. Why IS IT that you still moderate. It's obvious you don't care about Harry Potter and don't understand why people hate combining threads in a forum of such little traffic. I'm the only one who's targetting you - that's about it.

If there was one person I have serious doubts about dying, it's Hermione. She's the only one of the Big 3 that JK hasn't hinted at possible kicking the bucket, plus she's just so necessary to JK's writing. Jk has said she's just so convenient.

Are you stupid? You aren't making Wild Will any happier. And it's the rules, DEAL with it.

Also, Hermionie not being hinted at kicking the bucket, that could mean she does. Don't try and think from JK's perspective.

BerserkerAzn · 07-11-2004, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Village Dag

Are you stupid? You aren't making Wild Will any happier. And it's the rules, DEAL with it.

Yeah, we appreciate it but...well let's just stop pestering him.

They still have that Olivanders/Ronald Lives/Ronald's Evil thing going on, as well as the possible foreshadowing of the second war that the Chess Game in SS/PS showed.

Have no idea what I'm talking about? Lol...

Village Dag · 07-11-2004, 05:00 PM

[quote=BerserkerAzn]Yeah, we appreciate it but...well let's just stop pestering him.[quote]

Alrighty then!

Death'sBestFriend · 07-11-2004, 09:14 PM

Hmm........Just guessing,but on J.K.'s site she showed us the edited opening
chapters of The Philosopher's Stone.She said that one of the opening parts
was going to be used in THBP.My guess is it will be either A.)An explosion
happening offshore and Hermione's parent's...Or B.)EXACTLY what happened
the night Harry's parents died,fromVoldemort point of view.This is just my
guessing,but she DID say she would use one of the unused openings in book six.(There were more than just these two,but I can't think of anymore.

)

BerserkerAzn · 07-12-2004, 07:13 AM

With more time on my hands I can elaborate about my previous post...

The chess game in the Sorceror's Stone/Philosopher's Stone is suggested by some to be a foreshadowing of events to come, including Ron's death or supposed death. Ron, a master at Chess should have known that the King is the least likely to be captured in a game but instead choose a knight perhaps demonstrating some of his chivalric qualities. People have also made comparisons about Hermione and the Rook and Harry and the Bishop. Stuff about taking different paths through life and viewing things in particular manners-which WOULD make sense as J.K. Rowling couldn't have just simply decided which positions they took. There would have to have been a methodical way to her thinking.

layarddog1 · 07-12-2004, 09:07 AM

This one isnt a prediction but it would kinda be funny if The Malfoys meet the Dursleys.
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This is my prediction that Lucius Malfoy kills Dobby and/or the Dursleys

RCG_ · 07-12-2004, 05:20 PM

Um what chivalric qualities? If anything Harry would have been the knight if the chess game were a sign of anything. That doesn't hold water at all. Ron holds his own, but half the time, he really is a coward.

BerserkerAzn · 07-13-2004, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RCG_

Um what chivalric qualities? If anything Harry would have been the knight if the chess game were a sign of anything. That doesn't hold water at all. Ron holds his own, but half the time, he really is a coward.

Yeah I know...it's FORESHADOWING.-BTW don't flame me about this, I'm just passing on theories I've read.

djcati · 07-13-2004, 03:53 PM

B.)EXACTLY what happened the night Harry's parents died,fromVoldemort point of view.

I'm telling you, if that's not the opening chapter for book 6, I'll eat my hat. (omg overused cliche warning)
I seriously, 100% think it is, going by everything she's said on her site. And I absolutely cannot WAIT to read it... ^^
Maybe not from Voldemort's POV - maybe from a detached, narrator's POV, but seriously... Godric's Hollow, I'm telling you, is the setting for the first chapter...

As for the chess game and foreshadowing... I dunno... Up to now, while Ron has been (apart from that time in GoF) extremely loyal to Harry and Harry only, I do think he's rather a coward, or at least, doesn't have as much of his own courage as Harry and Hermione do, he relies on them and gets his confidence from them.

Relationship-wise, to be honest, I think R/H is a little one-sided now. Ron still likes Hermione, that much is obvious, but I don't think Hermione is particularly interested in him anymore, and... I really don't know if they could last permanently, if they did get together.
There should be a more definite answer in book 6... hm...