Magma Madness

[Darmanitakaishi2]

IMO, this deck is very well made and performs above average. However, I believe it can be made better with more time and experience. Also, I need some of ya'll to help!!!

Basic Pokemon
4x Team Magma's Groudon
3x Team Magma's Zangoose (If I had 4, I would play them )

Stage 1 Pokemon
4x Team Magma's Claydol (Psychic)
Total Pokemon: 11

Trainers
1x Copycat (I only have one)
4x Life Herb
1x Magnetic Storm
4x Maxie
2x Professor Oak's Research
4x Steven's Advice
2x Switch
2x Team Magma Ball
4x Team Magma Conspirator
2x Town Volunteers
Total: 26 Trainers

Energy
11x Fighting Energy
4x Psychic Energy
4x Darkness Energy
4x Magma Energy
Total: 23 Energy

Total: 11+26+23 = 60

IMO, I want to keep (of course) the Team Magma theme. I want the 4 Darkness and Magma energy to stay. Life Herb and Steven's Advice could both go down to three, but only if it is a really good card for this deck. Maxie MUST stay. Two Switch is necessary if I want to save energy or Groudon is in a pinch.

~DT

[Toast Fu]

Not bad at all. Maybe this will work better.

-1 Life Herb
+1 Baltoy

Just a thought...

[Kooper Koushiro]

Seems to me that adding a Baltoy would be folly. If you drew it as your opener, it would probably be killed ASAP.

The way the deck runs, it always leads with either Groudon or Zangoose. Groudon is more than likely going to be hitting by turn 2, with the Conspirator and such. Leading with Zangoose means and full bench by turn 3 almost certainly.

-Kooper, who says this deck somehow lost to my "Miror B." deck with Ludicolo, Sudowoodo, (Aquapolis I think...) and Rain/Snow Castforms.

[Darmanitakaishi2]

I bought some packs yesterday and luckily got 2 TM Zangoose. I put one into the deck and took out 1 Steven's Advice. It is working perfectly. Thanks for the suggestions, but I will stick with what I have.

~DT

[Polalion]

I would say....

-1 Switch
+1 Warp Point

People get confused when you start sending their Pokemon around all the over the place.

If you're switching something out for the 4th Zangoose, I would say that taking a Town Volunteers wouldn't hurt. Most of the time you won't get to play 2.

[Kooper Koushiro]

You know, the thought occured to me that Schemer would be better than Steven at times....in Magma, you could simply discard a Claydol then 'revive' it with Maxie...

Also, you may have figured this out, but only keep enough Pokémon as you need. Have just enough on the bench for Groudon to attack, and keep the rest in-hand. (For fear of Steven's Advice, yeah.)

If your hand somehow get shuffled in or something, (DRG Skarmory/Absol) you can fall back on Zangoose to grab stuff from the deck or Maxie to reclaim discards.

-Kooper, who says Magma is highly underrated...

[Darmanitakaishi2]

Here is the brand new version of the deck:
4 TM Groudon
4 TM Zangoose
3 TM Claydol
4 Life Herb
1 Magnetic Storm
4 Maxie
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
2 Prof. Oak's Research
2 Steven's Advice
2 Switch
2 TM Ball
4 TM Conspirator
2 TM Schemer
2 Town Volunteers
11 Fighting
4 Psychic
4 Darkness
4 Magma

PERFECT!

What do you guys think?

~DT,
who says this deck has beaten two very good unlimited decks recently.

[yongjianpan]

this deck definetly need some TM aggrons to help, just zangoose and groudon won't be enough and also add some TM poochyena and mightyena for searching but take out all the claydols cause you don't really need them so that's what I'll say.I also think that you don't need that much energies so take some out and replace with aggrons and mightyenas.Pokemon count is also important in TM decks because it raises the the chance of the deck's main hitter(Groudon) for attacking.

[Kooper Koushiro]

Aggron gives this deck a Water weak Pokémon.
With Blastoise ex inevitably on the rise, Water is not a good weakness to have unless it's a really, really good Pokémon, which TM's Aggron is not.
Mightyena might be OK, but I think Claydol is better.
Claydol can do some major damage to Psychic weak types. (Granted, Claydol itself is (P) weak.) Also, Magma Switch can save Darkness energies if a Pokémon is about to die. With two Claydol on the bench and enough energy in play, this deck can have pretty much any of its Pokémon able to go to full power in one turn.

Town Volunteers will have to go to keep this deck in modified.
I'd add in some Pokémon Reversal, which has the chance to act as a 'Gust of Win'.

-Kooper, thinks Magma's Pokémon are superior to Aqua's overall.

[Darmanitakaishi2]

4 TM Groudon
4 TM Zangoose
3 TM Claydol
9 Fighting
3 Psychic
4 Magma
4 Darkness
4 Life Herb
4 Maxie
1 Magnetic Storm
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
3 Pokemon Reversal
2 Prof. Oak's Research
2 Steven's Advice
2 Switch
2 TM Ball
4 TM Conspirator
2 TM Schemer
2 VS Seeker

~DT

[Tormentedsoul14]

This is a version of what the japanese people were playin at worlds (its no the most accurate version of it)
4 TM zangoose
4 TM Groudon
2 TM baltoy
2 TM claydol PSI one
2 TM numel
2 TM Camerupt

4 TM Scheemer
2 TM conspirator
2 TV Reporter
2 POR
3 Strength Charm
2 switch
3 Brineys
4 Stevens
2 Maxie

4 magma energy
4 dark
2 rainbow
10 fighting

~Tormented~

[Darmanitakaishi2]

October 9, 2004
Eclectica Scrapbooks & Games
Memphis, TN
Modified Mini-Tourney $5 entry fee


Well, my friend and I (both from Alabama) begged our parents to take us to Memphis in
order to play in this tourney. At first, we believed it was an Unlimited tourney. However,
this was changed when only a couple had Unlimited decks. Modified became the chosen
format. Here is the other deck that I brought with me.

Name: Magma Overlord

Basic Pokémon:
4 TM Groudon
4 TM Zangoose

Stage 1 Pokémon:
3 TM Claydol (Psychic)

Trainers:
4 Life Herb
1 Magnetic Storm
4 Maxie
1 Mr. Briney’s Compassion
3 Pokémon Reversal
2 Professor Oak’s Research
2 Steven’s Advice
2 Switch
2 TM Ball
4 TM Conspirator
2 TM Schemer
2 VS Seeker

Energy:
4 Darkness
9 Fighting
4 Magma
3 Psychic

Basic Deck Strategy:
My strategy is to power up Groudon or Zangoose, the two main attackers, as quickly as
possible for a quick game. Zangoose helps bring Magma Pokémon to life from my deck to
the bench, which helps power up his Team Play attack. Claydol is their for support in case
they fall and to switch energies around, if necessary. Life Herb is there to heal mainly
Groudon. Magnetic Storm is to help Groudon and Claydol against those resistant to their
attacks. My only Briney can save a prize from being taken, and it does not cost me much
except a small backup in my plans. Briney also helps with Claydol’s hand bonus attack.
Pokémon Reversal is a coin flip for a Gust of Win!!! It is worth it (you will see,
momentarily). Oak’s Research may help me make bad draws into good ones. Steven’s
Advice can help punish the opponents for dumping all of their Pokémon on the bench
(although this card rules against Magma decks). Switch saves energy and helps Groudon
tremendously. TM Ball can help get Claydol if I have Maxie or help Zangoose fill up the
Bench. Conspirator serves two purposes (whichever one I need at the time is the one I
use): to get energy if I need it now, or fill up the Bench so Groudon can start his
massacre. Schemer can sometimes be used with Claydol, followed up by Maxie the next
turn. This places valuable cards in the hand and does not waste Claydol’s partial sacrifice.
VS Seeker can help me do three Brineys with only one card of it in my deck, or, if I need
any of the supply of Supporters that are in this deck. Darkness Energy is basically a plus
10 or 20 (if I get Weakness). Magma is the “Boost” for the deck to run wild and destroy
everything. 4 Magma Energy may very well mean, in the best case scenario, 4 easy prizes.
3 Psychic are included for Claydol, and the remaining space is for basic energy purposes
(Fighting).

*Tournament Begins*

Round 1: Kevin White
This kid has won one tournament and ranked pretty high in all of the ones I have attended.
His deck included the sick combo of Butterfree and Bellossom. A healing fest could be
going on while all you can do is sit around and try and build someone up to attack, and
you only get to see the damage go from 50 to 10 over the course of one turn. I managed
to KO three of his soon to be monsters before they evolved. He began to gain the edge
when time was called. Due to his lack of preparation before the match (shuffling his deck
for about 5 minutes after time began) and my slow self playing out my hand, I won on the
prize count of 3-4. I only won due to Briney, switching out Zangoose (since Groudon
would die a horrid death), and flipping heads on one or two Life Herb. Stalling won me
this one. I hate to win like that, but it was the only way and a win is a win!!!
1-0
Round 2: Nicholas Hamner
Clay, the evil judge, once again paired up my friend and me to a showdown. His deck
included Glalie, Wobbuffet, and Mr. Mime EX (odds). Throughout the match, I had the
upper hand until Briney popped up and saved 2-3 prizes. At this point, I was up
approximately 4-6 on prize count. Mr. Mime EX shows up and starts chaos. A mistake on
my part with Magma and switching around energy almost cost me the game. However, I
regrouped and manage to destroy the nasty creature. After this, a long of time of Glalie
rearing its ugly head and retreating led to my agitation. I finally got going and got my last
two prizes. He had 4-5 left of his own. It was a good match, where the underdog
continuously playing it smart almost caught me way off guard. I hated to beat him,
because since Grass was running rampant, I thought he stood a better chance than me. I
told him I hoped he won two more, because I thought Magma’s luck had run out...
2-0
Round 3: Carlos
This guy and I have only faced each other once. This was my first tourney at the time,
back in Dragon Prerelease. We faced each other in the first round, where I won on a coin
flip from Treecko. Anyway, today was a new day, and it was war. He was playing a
dreaded Blaziken, Magneton, and Energy Draw Delcatty deck. This match became a
classic. I began with momentum, took a prize, and then Firestarter Blaziken shows
himself. I manage to kill one. With another powered up, I am shocked at what comes next
- Moltres EX!!! Confusion leads to a major decision left... what??? Groudon managed to
survive by 10 HP. I could kill the EX and take two, because he will die surely next turn. I
risk the whole game on a coin flip. I roll heads and eliminate Moltres EX from the
equation. Prize count is now 2-4 in my favor. I manage to kill something else, and then
Blaziken EX shows up. He decides to kill my Claydol instead of Groudon, believing that
Groudon couldn’t attack now since all of my Pokemon are just about gone. I Maxie
Claydol back out so I can attack, but then I play Pokemon Reversal. I roll heads, pull out
Skitty, and with one Darkness and one Fighting on Groudon, I Linear Attack to kill
Skitty!!! I win!!! Coin flips really saved me here, but this match was the new “Japanese”
(more on that later) Archetype vs. the old Archetype. This match was the best Modified
match I have ever had, and I hope Carlos and I will have a rivalry from here on out!!!
3-0
Final Round: David* ranked best league Trainer
David had the nasty deck of Nidoking and Nidoqueen with awesome Trainers and Double
Rainbow. Magma managed to KO two early on and then another one, but he was on his
way to winning. Due to five minutes of hunting where he was, then shuffling, and my use
of playing my hand out, we went to a sudden death tiebreaker. The judge called for two
prizes instead of one, since this match would decide the tournament champion. He got the
first prize after evolving Nidorina to Nidoqueen and destroying Zangoose. It was later
Briney’d, which is what I did as well as Life Herb to hold up. I managed to kill a
Nidoqueen or Nidoking I believe. I then decide to do Life Herb, which failed. However, I
had a Pokemon Reversal. Head was rolled. I pulled out a new Nidoran Female from the
Bench and killed it to win the match. I had won the tournament!
Winner at 4-0
Prizes Earned:
1 Gardevoir EX
1 Promo Winner Flygon
1 Promo Minun
1 Promo Swellow
Pokémon Monopoly (I have always wanted it!!!)
---
I learned that people hate coin flips. Also, people are in denial about how the Japanese
swept Worlds (with Magma Decks). I learned Magma is still awesome in Modified
Format. Finally, I don’t need TM Camerupt to teach people the one lesson I have worked
on - DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE MAGMA!!!

[the_real_guy11]

wow... nj *clap clap* still... i hate magma. FACE IT!! AQUA OWNS ALL (INCLUDING MAGMA)!!! . o well, really nj, best i got was in quarter finals 2 years ago (which were my good years) with a crazy deck of fire (Charizard((!!!)), Dark Typhlosion, Jungle Flareon, and BLAINE'S ARCANINE ((got it in a pack, not deck XD)).

[Darmanitakaishi2]

Besides Pokemon Retriever, what other cards should I add to the Magma deck that have come out from the new Rocket Series?

~DT

[yongjianpan]

Here's some cards you might want to add in:

2x TM's numel
2x TM's camerupt( the one with pokemon power)
2x mr. briney's compassion
2x desert ruins

All these might help you improve your deck a lot you you know how to use them.

[Darmanitakaishi2]

4 TM Groudon
4 TM Zangoose
1 TM Camerupt
3 TM Claydol (Magma Switch)
4 Darkness
9 Fighting
1 Fire
4 Magma
2 Psychic
1 Desert Ruins
3 Life Herb
4 Maxie
1 Mr. Briney's Compassion
2 Pokemon Retriever
3 Pokemon Reversal
1 Prof. Oak's Research
1 Steven's Advice
2 Switch
2 TM Ball
4 TM Conspirator
2 TM Schemer
2 VS Seeker

~DT