Should Pulling the Rug be main decked?

[CrazyDragun]

Lately almost every deck that is teir 1 envolves being able to send out a monster and getting something or destroying something with it's summoning effect. Should Pulling the Rug be maindecked?
Looking for peoples veiws and answers on this topic.

[Dark Black]

no it should always be side. you never know what your opponent is playing, so its best to wait in see

[BLSoldier109]

Side it, but if you have room and dont play treeborn play it.

[RedLight]

It depends on your meta. If your meta is full of Monarchs than why not and give it a try and if it isnt than just put it in the side deck.

[darthadamus]

I currently side it. Most effects are optional & you can't just activate it they summon a Gadget or Mobius. I learned that after a summon, (except for Zaborg, b/c he just kills once he out) (Raiza's effect also automatically targets) I ask if my opponent wants to activate their monster's effect & they usually hesitate after they've been Rugged before. It's also a great bluff if you don't have your Rug out!

[TonberryDoink]

Originally Posted by darthadamus

I ask if my opponent wants to activate their monster's effect & they usually hesitate after they've been Rugged before. It's also a great bluff if you don't have your Rug out!

Sounds like a good idea for a bluff.

But is it worth losing out on the effect of a monarch or gadget just because there might be a PTR set? What do you do?

You tribute for a 2400 vanilla (which is all Mobius is if you don't use his effect) and the facedown trap(s) stay there. Then you run your Mobius over his Don Zaloog and find the facedown was Shrink? Nooooooooo.......

OK, that is situational, but mirror force/ sakuretsu/ widespread ruin or magic cylinder are all likely to be the trap you run into.


The whole point of running Mobius is to destroy facedown threats, (or faceup stall, I guess). Refusing to use Mobius' effect because there is a facedown trap is.... bizarre?

I can't remember how many times I've summoned Mobius just to hit a single BTH. But what do you do? Keep him in hand until your opponent sets a second spell/trap or let him do his job and take out a threat and attack.

Same with Gadgets. 1200/1400 ATK is very little in terms of field prescence. Better to activate the effect and lose the monster than not activate and lose the effect anyway. Its worth losing a 1200/1400 gadget to get PtR off the field. If I'm running 9 gadgets, I know I'm more likely to draw one before my opponent draws another PTR (if he even runs more than 1).

At least with gadgets, you only lose the monster and its effect, where with Mobius, you lose the tribute monster as well.

Should PTR be maindecked?
Look at your meta.

Monarchs really hate this card, that's a good enough reason.

Demise relies on Manju etc for speed, and PTR will put the brakes on that.

Gadget decks can probably afford to lose a gadget to PTR, so I'd go with Royal Decree or Deck Devastaion Virus to sort them out, but maining a PTR certainly won't hurt.

I see PTR as an alternative to Bottomless Trap Hole. It doesn't hit quite so much but it does hit commonly played monsters. Also, spell speed 3 is an advantage as Royal Decree cannot be chained to it.

[darthadamus]

Originally Posted by SkidmcMarx

Sounds like a good idea for a bluff.

But is it worth losing out on the effect of a monarch or gadget just because there might be a PTR set? What do you do?

Ahh, what can you do? Just play your best but it doesn't hurt to ask questions, whether to bluff or to keep the game honest (bluffing & honesty?)

PTR is a good side deck card, but then so is Dark Coffin. Mobius is a Monarch, but even Monarchs knows fear!

[Goriyaku]

just drop the bottomless for rug and add another to make it 41. 2 rugs maindecked is the best response to the current meta. with demise winning the last jump, and monarchs still placing pretty decently rug stomps on both of those decktypes.

[turkeyspit]

I've seen some decks that do main it, but to me that is a mistake.

There are too many decks seeing play today that offer next to no targets for rug.

- Diamond Dude Turbo: E-Hero Stratos and DMoC is about it.
- Bazooper: Er...likely nothing.
- Toolbox/Stratosbox: Just E-Hero Stratos
- Burn: Nada
- Six Samurai: Zip

Against any of the above, a maindecked Rug would likely end up being a dead draw. I'd rather run BTH against Monarchs, and then side in Rugs Game 2.

[CrazyDragun]

Everyone brought good answers to the table,but i agreed more with turkeyspit.Because that is what i do right now and was tempted to run pullings maindecked.

[xXAlchemistXx]

It's not a bad idea. Although, I'd rather have Bottomless mained, and PtR sided since Bottomless stops special summons, and PtR doesn't.

[billy555]

Not really. There really aren't that many targets for pulling the rug. I'd rather use bottomless over it and side pulling the rug because bottomless has more targets than pulling. If your meta has a lot of gadgets, monarchs, and demise then I'll try it.

[King Atem]

I would always side deck this card over main decking it.

[SKAK]

It's smart to main 1-2 Rug in many decks now for multiple reasons. One being that the decks you should worry about the most are Monarchs and Demise, with bits and pieces of other decks also being vulnerable to Rug. Not to mention Gadgets are totally wrecked by it. In most of the toptier decks Rug is always a dead draw against it's safe to say that a lot more cards in your deck will be dead anyway. Against burn for example typically most of your deck is useless. No matter what deck you face there will always be a dead card or two. But in this case Pulling the Rug counters enough of the metagame to be worth maindecking and ignoring how effective it is against lesser decktypes.

The other reason Rug is a good maindeck choice is sidedeck space. It is extremely difficult to side enough things to counter everything you need to counter effectively and consistently, in this format. Opening up a couple spaces in your sidedeck can and will make all the difference.

[AZNLeader]

I would say side deck is a better place. U might not know if those Rugs are goin to help in a match up so u would play the first duel, than side in the rug if u need it. Maining them is a risky move. It takes up space for other useful cards.

[SKAK]

Originally Posted by AZNLeader

I would say side deck is a better place. U might not know if those Rugs are goin to help in a match up so u would play the first duel, than side in the rug if u need it. Maining them is a risky move. It takes up space for other useful cards.

So you pass up the chance of having greater odds of winning game1 vs Monarchs/Demise when together they're 90% of the meta and you just accept not having an edge over the outcome of those games and hope to 2-0 those decks games 2/3 without complications. K.

[turkeyspit]

Originally Posted by SKAK

So you pass up the chance of having greater odds of winning game1 vs Monarchs/Demise when together they're 90% of the meta and you just accept not having an edge over the outcome of those games and hope to 2-0 those decks games 2/3 without complications. K.

Don't you know? Random scrub decks do well at Regionals. What good are your Rugs against that Armed Dragon or Zombie deck.

If we went back in time before Stratos came out, where everyone was playing Monarchs, then I would agree with you.

In my Meta, I face off regularly against Six Samurai, Warrior Box, Perfect Circle, and Doomize..and Rug is really only good against the latter.

[Memo333]

side deck vs monarch decks...in regionals soon, this is card is not so good...my reasons are that most normal summon monsters are few...just monarches , DMOC, and few that suk, almost all the monsters good player use are ignition, not trigger happy.

[Goriyaku]

If you are taking a deck to regs/sjc it would not only be ignorant, but stupid not to at least consider maining 1-2 pulling the rugs.

[SkullBuster]

I'd main it against Monarch decks.

For other decks, I'm still pondering about it...

[Goriyaku]

Originally Posted by billy555

Not really. There really aren't that many targets for pulling the rug. I'd rather use bottomless over it and side pulling the rug because bottomless has more targets than pulling. If your meta has a lot of gadgets, monarchs, and demise then I'll try it.

bottomless has, on average, 2-3 more targets than rug (cyber dragon). having 2 dead cards against a tier 1.5 matchup (samurai, warriors) shouldn't cause you to automatically lose should it? if so then you should try rebuilding your deck ;\. Even against warriors, (unless it's a bad version) there are 2-3 zabs/mobs in there to help out with adv so you can still use your rugs ;\

[SKAK]

Originally Posted by turkeyspit

Don't you know? Random scrub decks do well at Regionals. What good are your Rugs against that Armed Dragon or Zombie deck.

If we went back in time before Stratos came out, where everyone was playing Monarchs, then I would agree with you.

In my Meta, I face off regularly against Six Samurai, Warrior Box, Perfect Circle, and Doomize..and Rug is really only good against the latter.

If you lose to or need to worry about Armed Dragon or Zombie decks then IDK what to say other than get better. PERIOD.

Second of all, locals are a much different thing than regionals/SJCs. Some of the best decks for premier events don't work as well in the local scene. There could be a large showing of decktypes that naturally counter your deck. Like a Perfect Circle player going to a local with everyone playing Cosmos. At locals you should always rethink your tech and adjust it to the predicted meta. In your locals mained Rug may be terrible but at regs/SJCs where Monarchs/Demise take up 90% of the field mained Rugs are a very smart decision that will give you an edge a hell of a lot more than hurt you.
But you mentioned that PC and Demise are popular in your meta right...o look that's exactly what Rug likes to see, monarchs and ritual searchers.

[IceK9]

you're a constant show at premier events such as sjc or reg, main one rug and side in two
otherwise, it's really iffy for local play...

[solat75]

I would side it. Find out what your opponent is playing and then side it in. It kills Monarchs, gadgets, and DEMISE!

[Goriyaku]

Originally Posted by solat75

I would side it. Find out what your opponent is playing and then side it in. It kills Monarchs, gadgets, and DEMISE!

which are the top tier decks rite now lol.