04-20-2007, 05:27 AM
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Captain "GOD" Hand
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This is probably the best format for yu-gi-oh since the ban list started!
I love that people are playing with a variety of decks now. I hated going to tournaments and everybody is running the same deck basically. This is the first time I have ever really had to do a lot of thinking when making my side deck. This format has Monarchs, DDT, Demise, Chain Burn, Gadgets, Bazooper, and Samurai's. I just hope that the next couple of sets will help old deck types like GraveKeepers, Harpies, and Fiends take it to the next level.
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04-20-2007, 05:31 AM
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Pharaonic Veteran
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Yes it is better that people are running different decks than everyone using the same deck.
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04-20-2007, 05:54 AM
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Pojo Veteran
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yea, where i play it used to be all about the monarchs... now we have
couple of stratosToolbox , 2 Demise OTK, 2 Samurais, couple of gadgets, couple of monarchs, 1 bazooper, couple of burns... This by far is the best format : except for snatch steal...
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04-20-2007, 06:11 AM
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Pharaonic Veteran
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dgenerate_4Life
yea, where i play it used to be all about the monarchs... now we have
couple of stratosToolbox , 2 Demise OTK, 2 Samurais, couple of gadgets, couple of monarchs, 1 bazooper, couple of burns... This by far is the best format : except for snatch steal...
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I agree with you about the Snatch Steal part. :D
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04-20-2007, 06:39 AM
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Pojo Veteran
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Belgium
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Don't forget that the best part is on the new sets & promo side and not on the ban list...
Ok the ban list is good but thx to UDE to give us this crazy year in the TCG ^^
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04-20-2007, 06:47 AM
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Created HeroLadies
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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I love this format, only other format I have liked was the Toolbox format, I wish I could have gone to a Regionals then. My Toolbox deck was 74-4, but My new main deck type is doing great. I love running the Gadgets, and unless they get limited to 1, I'll probably always run them. I might be taking them to my first Regionals in 2 years in a couple months. I'm just having huge issues in making my side deck. From what all is being played I have no idea what to put as my extra 15.
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04-20-2007, 06:48 AM
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Pojo Newbie
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: HaNoi- Viet Nam
Age: 29
Posts: 18
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Always have 3 brain and 1 Steal in Monarch deck .... Oh my god!
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04-20-2007, 06:57 AM
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Pojo Veteran
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 16
Posts: 808
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Yeah i actually like this format.
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04-20-2007, 07:02 AM
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Gonna Chazz you Up!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Australia
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This format being varied has nothing to do with the ban list. Gadgets, DDT, Demise OTK, Samurai's - are all decks with NEW cards - so it's these new cards that have made the change not the ban list. Frankly I think the ban list sucks - snatch at 1, smashings, fissure, bottomless, sakuretsu, wide-spread - all costless removal at max. There's too many individual cards that are just way better than anything else - cards like mst, heavy, prem, smash, sak, snatch, ring, mirro, torrential, call etc that once you've filled your deck up with them leave hardly any room for much else. I'd like to see a ban list that has been tackled properly rather than just had it's corners snipped.
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04-20-2007, 07:13 AM
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Pojo Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2005
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Its true, lets not forget next month we have ANOTHER deck type hopefully making a top tier status, making 8-10 viable tier one decks, the return of chaos, not as powerful though, lol
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04-20-2007, 07:58 AM
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Captain "GOD" Hand
Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by King Atem
I agree with you about the Snatch Steal part. :D
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I second that!:)
Additional Comment:
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Originally Posted by D.D. Sofa Guy
This format being varied has nothing to do with the ban list. Gadgets, DDT, Demise OTK, Samurai's - are all decks with NEW cards - so it's these new cards that have made the change not the ban list. Frankly I think the ban list sucks - snatch at 1, smashings, fissure, bottomless, sakuretsu, wide-spread - all costless removal at max. There's too many individual cards that are just way better than anything else - cards like mst, heavy, prem, smash, sak, snatch, ring, mirro, torrential, call etc that once you've filled your deck up with them leave hardly any room for much else. I'd like to see a ban list that has been tackled properly rather than just had it's corners snipped.
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I agree that monster removal cards should be limted with there being so many out there!
Last edited by GrandMaster : 04-20-2007 at 07:58 AM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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04-20-2007, 08:49 AM
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SEE MY MOVIE OR DIE!
Join Date: Mar 2007
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I know it is the game is better than ever
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04-20-2007, 10:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Inglewood, CA
Age: 25
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yeah. i like this format. its like so varied. snatch isnt to much a problem for me...all those "top deck snatch" stroies have been possible since the release of barain control...the onr thin i dont like is how aggressive it is. and how easy it is to die. i mean, this i one of the few formats ive been in where you're a like 7200 life and the opp.'s like "game" and they actually mean it.
cyber...snatch...pre...summon...so aggro...
but then, that stuff was possible b4 this format. i guess it's just alot more induced by the fact that if you let your guy live you may just get demised or destinied to hell. that is a basic rule of yugioh however...anything that puts one guy against another in fact...
as long as they haven't lost, they can win. its like fundamental yugioh now. crazy...
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04-20-2007, 11:14 AM
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something else
Join Date: Jul 2006
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i like this format too, a few cards in here are good, and volcanics could be good-competitive.
usually there are cards that stop the opponent that affect multiple types. six samurai, cyber dragon and others can be stopped by ojama trio. ojama trio can help with lockdown, gyuaku gire panda, and fiend megacyber(the old cyber dragon) also use kaiser colloseum and they can't summon anymore, use gravity axe grarl and mistbody and you have a lockdown
field barrier is going to be good since i am using 3 clock tower prion's in my d-hero deck
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04-20-2007, 11:42 AM
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ξενοδοχείο ίρις
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by D.D. Sofa Guy
This format being varied has nothing to do with the ban list. Gadgets, DDT, Demise OTK, Samurai's - are all decks with NEW cards - so it's these new cards that have made the change not the ban list. Frankly I think the ban list sucks - snatch at 1, smashings, fissure, bottomless, sakuretsu, wide-spread - all costless removal at max. There's too many individual cards that are just way better than anything else - cards like mst, heavy, prem, smash, sak, snatch, ring, mirro, torrential, call etc that once you've filled your deck up with them leave hardly any room for much else. I'd like to see a ban list that has been tackled properly rather than just had it's corners snipped.
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"Costless removal" is not an issue; there's nothing inherently broken or unfair about Smashing, Sakuretsu, and the like.
Players only see these cards as "problems" because the ban list is still massively imbalanced, as it lamely denies players full access to good defenses like Scapegoat, Book of Moon, Time Seal, and Torrential Tribute. Because of this, aggro decks packing lots of simplistic removal can often roll through Duels unimpeded.
In an ideal format, simplistic 1-for-1 removal would be a non-issue.
In any regard, this is one of the better formats we've had, though it is far from ideal due to the persistence of OTK (Dimension Fusion, Demise, Magical Explosion), as well as an imbalance toward aggro.
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04-20-2007, 11:49 AM
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Pojo Veteran
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It recently became a rich man's game again, and already had two topdeck for the win cards.
Not my idea of a great format.
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04-20-2007, 11:50 AM
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Pojo Veteran
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Gravekeeper
It recently became a rich man's game again, and already had two topdeck for the win cards.
Not my idea of a great format.
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not really......DDT is expensive, but there are ALOT of other cheap decks that win.....Demise,gadgets,magical explosion, six samurais etc.....
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04-20-2007, 11:59 AM
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something else
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Tx
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cheese cards rule this game
cheese cards-cards that everyone uses to a broken extent. see cheese moves. ex: heavy storm, snatch steal
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04-20-2007, 12:26 PM
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Where's my chippy
Join Date: Jan 2004
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when a cyberdark can get top 16 at one of the largest scale events known to yugioh you know theres some kinda balance somewere.
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04-20-2007, 12:26 PM
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The Edgecrusher
Join Date: Apr 2006
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not.
I don't like this format at all. You either love it or hate it....depends on which side of the proverbial fence you are on.
Other than the fact that fundamentally, it doesn't differ all that much from last format, several card didn't need to be banned, and several decktypes didn't need the banlist to be considered playable. Its just that now people are playing silly decks and are doing well with them.
This format sucks. Snatch Steal sucks more.
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04-20-2007, 01:57 PM
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Mega Hamster
Join Date: Feb 2004
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This format is horrible, I don't know how everyone likes it so much. Ban Breaker and bring back Snatch....whoever came up with that idea is brilliant!(Sarcasm)
The only thing that saved this game was Strike of The Neos, and soon to be Force of The Breaker. Had these 2 sets been another "Cyberdark Impact" or "The Lost Millenium"(Hell, you can just about add all sets to the list since Ancient Sanctuary was released), this game wouldn't have survived much longer.
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04-20-2007, 02:30 PM
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Adam
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SIGMA27X
This format is horrible, I don't know how everyone likes it so much. Ban Breaker and bring back Snatch....whoever came up with that idea is brilliant!(Sarcasm)
The only thing that saved this game was Strike of The Neos, and soon to be Force of The Breaker. Had these 2 sets been another "Cyberdark Impact" or "The Lost Millenium"(Hell, you can just about add all sets to the list since Ancient Sanctuary was released), this game wouldn't have survived much longer.
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Glenn, come on, sure Snatch is horrible, but think about it for a second. So many decks are being played right now. That variety is good for the game. Soon even more variety will be in the game. Even monarch decks have gotten changed up a little thanks to Dale. Even with Snatch back, that's the only possible down side to this format I believe.
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04-20-2007, 02:38 PM
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i play poker now
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Best format since Goats by far. I liked goat format a little moar. I liked the first ban list format too.
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04-20-2007, 02:41 PM
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Banned User
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Goat format > Current format.
Goat control showed who had skill. This format aint bad though. 2nd best format imo.
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04-20-2007, 03:01 PM
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Holistic Detective
Join Date: Apr 2007
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I think there are still a few kinks that need to be worked out of this format, but they can't all be resolved by ban list alteration; some must be done by our hands. In my opinion, the game has been much better for the existance of the ban-list, and since its inception, we have been moving irregularly and somewhat gradually in the right direction.
Think about the game right before the first ban-list. It was Chaos, and it was chaotic. There were Chaos decks, Chaos/Control decks, Warrior Toolbox decks with Black Luster Soldier- Envoy of the Beginning, and that was about it. Now we have two major theme decks, Gadgets and Six Samurai, that operate almost independently of the direction that the general meta is moving with the Bazooper Rage and the DDT Movement. Since then, the best fit line of the way we are moving is a nice one, but many points have not been along that line. There have been times that the Monarch decks were not that different than pre-ban Chaos, our lapses for sure, but we have overall been moving in the right direction, depending on independent thought rather than hive mind-style net-decking and cookie cutters.
I think we are in a good place right now, and we should use this momentum and the winner that we have in FotB to revolutionize the game again, giving more thematic play a competitive chance. FotB is, in my opinion, the best set we have seen since Invasion of Chaos, or maybe even Magician's Force (I duel with Spellcasters). Thus, we should use FotB like people used Invasion of Chaos to revolutionize the meta and bring new deck types, strategies, and general gaming attitudes into Yu-Gi-Oh! to keep the momentum swinging in the right direction. These are just my thoughts about where the meta is right now, they may prove wrong in the long run, but that's irrelevant for the time being-
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