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Old 12-11-2006, 03:02 PM   #1
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Default Will Dark World be the next Tier 1 deck?

With all the recent DW decks popping up do you think this will be the deck to finally take top spot over the Monarchs? DW keeps on getting better and better, with STON it will have even more support. Also there are also many fiends that can help a DW deck as well as the Strike Ninja/DW deck. I think DW will be the next tier 1, because of it's immense power to dominate the field in seconds with cards like DW Lightning and Morphing Jar. Also comboed up with Deck Devastation Virus DW is a killer deck that in my opinion will take the next SJC top spot. What does everyone else think?
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:11 PM   #2
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It should be.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:16 PM   #3
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It Really should be. But i wouldn't want to see all Dark World. I'd like to see a mix of three or four dominant deck types. Maybe Monarch, Dark World, Machine, Warrior, Macro.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:26 PM   #4
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I agree, I wouldn't want to see all DW, but it would be good to see another deck type apart from Monarchs take the top spot for awhile. Machines won't really be their best until we get the gadgets. Warrior toolbox will always be a good deck of choice, but I wonder if it will ever be top spot.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:26 PM   #5
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i cant predict anything, but its definately going to make a comeback. STON is going to help it out a lot
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:31 PM   #6
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Dark World is verypowerul and a useful counter to 3 x Thesty decks.

However Warriors + Monarchs is very effective and any build that supports RotA's makes a 2 D-Fissure, 2 DD Survivor side easy. Not only nukes DW but good against a variety of things.

Sided Banisher also hurts DW big time.

So, I think DW is obviously good enuff to succeed, but if by tier 1 u mean widely played, I think the deck is self-correcting -- easy enuff to counter, it won't stay dominant for long.

This is probbly a good thing.
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Old 12-11-2006, 03:37 PM   #7
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It's good but can be easily countered.
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this is what people said about gadgets. if thats the case then gadgets should also be teir 1
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Uhm.... no.

Dark World is a solid teir 2 decktype but I don't see it being teir 1. It's far too combo dependant; you need a DW monster and a card that will let you discard it.

Against monarchs, there's another huge weakness:

Goldd/Silva-2,300 atk
Monarchs- 2,400 atk

So, to get rid of a monarch, you need either something other than the DW monster. If their monarch of choice is Thestalos you have a better shot but it's still not a great shot. Let's say you run the maximum DW monsters that get a benificial effect from being discarded: That means you have twelve monsters that get the effect. However, you ALSO have another 28 monsters in your deck that do NOT get any benifit from being discarded (okay, Night Assailant can change that). Random discarding is a really risky way to get off the second effects of DW monsters because you will likely discard something else.

The new DW cards will be helpful but DW still won't be teir 1.

Deck Devistation Virus is a good choice for the deck. I'll admit, I ran a DW deck and it was part of my godly opening hand (Confiscation, Gracerful Charity, 2 Silvas and DDV). But, you still want to get it EARLY game. You get it mid to late game and your opponent will have less cards in their hand and that will mean less chance to discard. Really, to make that card pay for itself, they need to discard, at minimum, 2 cards.
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no...just no =/
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as far as i'm concerned, the next set will help dw become tier 1. it will not win an sjc until then though, and i believe, the next ban list will be in effect before this happens. correct me if i'm wrong. does ston come out in jan. or feb.? back to my point though, it is very easy to counter dw. that's why it won't win an sjc. banishers ftw!
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ston is already out in japan. it comes out around the same time soi did in the us
the next teir 1 deck will probably be gadgets
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oh yea!! I would love that! I,m tired of the steins and monarcs..
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oh yea!! I would love that! I,m tired of the steins and monarcs..
u will say the same thing if dw becomes teir 1
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No. The main reason Darkworld is so powerful this format is because of the popularity of Thestalos.
It will never make Tier 1, maybe Tier 2, it has a few good cards, but people will just stop running Thestalos, and eventually, Darkworld will go extinct, Thestalos will become popular, the cycle will repeat itself.
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Freakin DW ownz IDK what ur talkin about
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I say, from STON, the newest decktype with a Tier 1 possibility are the Six Warmasters. I will make a deck out of them. They're very well put together. I can see them dominating.
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it should, but the more important fiends come 1st
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the problem w/ dark world is that it will never be cc, as mirror matches suck
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macros will become teir 1 before dw ever does
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Dark World, Will never be Tier 1. But Dark World Hybrids might be come
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Six Warmasters are Tier 2 i think. The big guy Shien is very powerful however especially when paired up against monarchs.
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The answer is Lol No.

Why do people always predict this as Number 1? It never is.
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What's wrong with the Six Warmasters? Or are you just scared you might get your butt kicked by an original deck?
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