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05-12-2004, 10:43 PM
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Psycho Templar
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Endless Whispers
You have got to be kidding me.
Just look at the newest preview card from Fifth Dawn.
Endless Whispers
2BB
Enchantment
Each creature has "When this creature is put into a graveyard from play, choose target opponent. That player puts this creature card from that graveyard into play under his or her control at end of turn."
I think I like the Creatureless Deck idea the best...
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05-13-2004, 05:31 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Thats not fun at all. You can just keep burning and blasting his creatures and put them on your side.
And with PHAGE....GOD! First the Rats, now this.
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05-13-2004, 12:54 PM
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Lord of the Undead
Join Date: Apr 2004
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looks like black might finally be making a come back, i think it'd be funnny to have that out and some1 to play a rath of god lol you'd switch teams, its a very interesting card but i don't know if i'll end up using it, just a thought would this card work with the rats? like if they killed one of ur rats and it went on there side would all your rats still have the same power cause that rat just switched sides or does relentless rats say its only ones you control?, anyway if its like that it might be somthing those rat decks to think about
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05-13-2004, 01:31 PM
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Jeeze...I just thought of an idea. What if you had a deck that went through and got Phage or a Leveler, sac it (when having Endless Whispers out) and kill him. Thats just easy. Everything else could be control to get creatures on your side (would have to be a Black/White deck).
That's one deck I'm making...
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05-13-2004, 04:09 PM
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Registered User
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by spartan4life
And with PHAGE....GOD! First the Rats, now this.
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Dude, Endless Whispers is going to be a $1.00 Crap Rare.
The combo with phage is nearly impossible to pull off, well, in t2 atleast..... first, you would have to summon phage, and then kill it... You would have better luck equipping phage with a whispersilk cloak or something..
SPARTAN, USE THIS COMBO!
Turn 1... Swamp, Entomb, Phage
Turn 2... Swamp, Exhume
Last edited by fLiPcHiPmUnK9 : 05-13-2004 at 04:12 PM.
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05-13-2004, 04:11 PM
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Registered User
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It would be Mediocre though with a Leveler....
Just have a Ravager, or Artifact/Creature Saccing thing (carrion feeder, etc) and Endless whispers out.... Just Play leveler, remove your library, sac the leveler, give to opponent, their library gets removed, u end, they lose.
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05-13-2004, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
SPARTAN, USE THIS COMBO!
Turn 1... Swamp, Entomb, Phage
Turn 2... Swamp, Exhume
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That, my friend, would kill you. You can only play Phage from your hand. Which is quite easy with mana excel (come on. if TaN can do it, I KNOW this can). Then, sac it with Carrion Feeder/Spawning Pit (which can be played A LOT earlier). He looses because it came into play from the graveyard. Auto kill.
It's the same with Leveler. Mediocre? No, by a lot. Ravager decks are Mediocre because there easy to use. |
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05-13-2004, 04:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Yes, it will kill YOU! which is why I told YOU to use the combo....
Anyway, Ravager decks pwn.... I was just using ravagers as an example of something to sac the leveler for...
The leveler idea is better than the Phage idea, seeing as you can win turn 5, instead of 7++
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05-13-2004, 04:38 PM
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Banned User
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This is something I'd get JUST to run in 4+ player games...
Of course, there is that part where the other 3 players immediately combine forces to destroy me because they like their creatures or just don't want to suffer the inconvenience that this mass chaos causes.
Except for that little drawback anyway... makes for some great politics after a Wrath/Vengeance.
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05-13-2004, 05:07 PM
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Pojo Veteran
Join Date: Feb 2004
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WOW I think you guys have missed the point of this card. It reallys should read....
Destroy Bidding (or limit Ravager) 2BB
Enchantment
If your opponent is playing Goblin Bidding
and you have decent mana accell, you win
the game. If your opponent is playing
RAffinity they are not allowed to sac ornithopter
frogmite or enforcer, or use dumb feed ravager
to itself trick.
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05-13-2004, 05:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by fLiPcHiPmUnK9
Yes, it will kill YOU! which is why I told YOU to use the combo....
Anyway, Ravager decks pwn.... I was just using ravagers as an example of something to sac the leveler for...
The leveler idea is better than the Phage idea, seeing as you can win turn 5, instead of 7++
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Man...someones very agressive...
Ravager decks don't "pwn". They only are good in T2. If they "pwned" they would be extremly good in most formats, like 'Tog was.
And I'm going to repeat myself, with mana excell (lets say 2 more), turn 5 Phage, turn 3 Leveler. That's why they should BOTH be used. |
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05-13-2004, 05:32 PM
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Pojo Veteran
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How about this as a response to gobbos? I think this will seriously limit their playability.
S.B. Allstar
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05-13-2004, 05:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Gobos? Bah, Wrath, Akroma's Vengence, Starstorm, ect and then Steal all of their creatures.
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05-15-2004, 03:29 AM
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Banned User
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With as crazy as this card is, one must wonder if it really will be a $1 crap Rare...
Some might run it just as an anti-sac'ing insurance policy in 1-on-1. I can at least suspect people who already use Black decks would at least consider sideboarding them.
Like I said before, I just love the multiplayer politics that this card offers once in play. Even on any single given instance of a creature being put into the graveyard... it offers up choices of whom you want to give the card to.
I think this is just one of those cards Wizards made while high and thinking of what the stupidest wackiest ability they could put onto a card was.
What CRAZY effect can we make to hurt current popular deck types, yet engineer to allow for a completely ridiculous number of possible effects and outcomes...
(Yes, I am aware stupidest isn't a word, that was part of the point I was illustrating.)
Shame it isn't 3B or 4B instead of 2BB... make it easier to splash into other color decks.
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05-15-2004, 08:59 AM
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If you thought this was crazy, Magic has informed us that we've not even begun to get into what the set can do. I'm so afraid right now...
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05-16-2004, 05:01 AM
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Banned User
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124/165 (48/55 that are Rares) have been spoiled thus far on mtgnews.com.
I doubt there's much left in those last 7 Rares... to fulfill their boast. I could very well be wrong though.
Perhaps they're simply refering to cards like Paradise Mantle, which I foresee becoming an EXTREMELY popular card... at least as much as Skullclamp anyway, but possibly more so even.
0 cost, 1 equip, makes the equipped monster into a Birds of Paradise... Something about that 0 cost rings in at broken, to me anyway. Just might cause the price of Chrome Mox to drop... or at least become a "poor man's Mox".
I really hope there's about 2 in that Sunburst deck, like with Skullclamps, making it reasonably easy to acquire.
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