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05-08-2004, 06:15 PM
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Something just occured to me.
When they do the 4th movie, in Moody's class, they will have to say Harry escaped Avada Kedavra twice. In the book it's once. If you don't know what I mean, in the 2nd movie, Lucius Malfoy tried it on Harry but was cut short by Dobby. What are your perspectives on this probable error?
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05-08-2004, 08:26 PM
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Lucius Malfoy wasnt going to use Avra Kadavra on harry. It's unknown what he was going to use, dont just assume.
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05-08-2004, 08:34 PM
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It would be extreme for Lucius to kill Harry on Hogwarts ground, mere feet from Dumbledore's office, wouldn't it? Everyone would know it was him and he'd be put away.
Not a very logical plot filler, is it?
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05-08-2004, 09:33 PM
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I doubt they'll even bring it up in the movie, hoping no-one will notice.
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05-09-2004, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by shk-thrall
Lucius Malfoy wasnt going to use Avra Kadavra on harry. It's unknown what he was going to use, dont just assume.
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Actually, when he's running towards Harry he hisses Avada. It's offical. I'm not kidding. |
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05-09-2004, 01:23 AM
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Yeah I definitely heard Avada, but remember, Harry's the only one to ever survive Avada Kadavra...Lucius didn't actually do the spell. Had he done it, Harry probably would have died if it hit him.
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05-09-2004, 07:28 AM
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yeah malfoy didn't finish the curse, so you can't even say harry survived it twice...
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05-09-2004, 06:46 PM
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Besides, how would Moody and everyone else know? It's not like Harry went around telling everybody. As far as the rest of the wizarding world knows, Harry escaped it once.
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05-22-2004, 02:00 AM
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First of all, unless anyone else knows of a spell that begins with the incantation "Avada" I think it's a pretty safe bet Lucius was going to kill Harry in the second movie. Mind you, if there is indeed another one, I'll gladly take the correction.
On another note, I would also like to point out that the incantation was cut short. The curse was never finished, and therefor he technically only survived it once.
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05-22-2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by DementedMisfitBoy
Besides, how would Moody and everyone else know? It's not like Harry went around telling everybody. As far as the rest of the wizarding world knows, Harry escaped it once.
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Besides that, in the second book harry didn't even know of the Avada Kadavra spell, so even if Lucius did use Avada Kadvra and Harry did actually survive it, he couldn't tell anyone since he didn't know..
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05-22-2004, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NevrMore
Besides that, in the second book harry didn't even know of the Avada Kadavra spell, so even if Lucius did use Avada Kadvra and Harry did actually survive it, he couldn't tell anyone since he didn't know..
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<pojo_ownz><pojo_ownz><pojo_ownz><pojo_ownz>! I forgot about that. |
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05-22-2004, 07:28 PM
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Would this mean that the spell is indeed blockable to some extent, if the incantation is never finished?
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05-22-2004, 08:23 PM
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Not really, it was never finished, and hense, never truely existed, though the threat of it did.
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05-23-2004, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ellimist211
First of all, unless anyone else knows of a spell that begins with the incantation "Avada" I think it's a pretty safe bet Lucius was going to kill Harry in the second movie. Mind you, if there is indeed another one, I'll gladly take the correction.
On another note, I would also like to point out that the incantation was cut short. The curse was never finished, and therefor he technically only survived it once.
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I'm wondering, since some of the stuff is Latin in the book, like the stuff found with Lupin being Latin words, if Avada could be anything?
Bah, checked and no luck...
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05-23-2004, 08:02 PM
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OK...I've been wondering how many people caught the connection between "Avada Kedavera" and "Abra Kadabra."
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05-23-2004, 08:12 PM
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Duh. The only way not to see that is if you've been living under a rock.
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05-24-2004, 12:26 AM
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Actually, Avada Kedavra comes from "adhada kedabra" which means "let the thing be destroyed."
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05-24-2004, 04:20 PM
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Can I assume that's in Latin? 
Seriously, though, Abra Kedabra is probably the same thing, more or less. =\
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05-24-2004, 05:07 PM
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Can I assume that's in Latin?
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That's no Latin I've seen...which is a lot. I have to translate Virgil's The Aeneid in class...I think I'd know...redite ad patriam. (go back to your country.) |
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05-28-2004, 01:41 AM
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Heh, I used to study Latin. I never got much farther than a few basic phrases.
I study Spanish now, which I speak fairly well for a beginning level.
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05-28-2004, 06:15 AM
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Here's something I found at http://www.hp-lexicon.org :
Avada Kedavra (uh-VAH-duh kuh-DAH-vruh)
"Killing Curse"
Aramaic: "adhadda kedhabhra" - "let the thing be destroyed".
NOTE: Abracadabra is a cabbalistic charm in Judaic mythology that is supposed to bring healing powers. One of its sources is believed to be from Aramaic avada kedavra, another is the Phoenician alphabet (a-bra-ca-dabra).
So, it seems the name Avada Kedavra came from Aramaic, which was the language Jesus and his Disciples spoke.
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05-28-2004, 06:24 PM
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I thought it was just in the movie that he started saying avada kadavra. Can anyone get us a quote from the book caz i don't have mine right now it's at a friends?
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05-28-2004, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Detonator
I thought it was just in the movie that he started saying avada kadavra. Can anyone get us a quote from the book caz i don't have mine right now it's at a friends?
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It never said it in the book. All it said was that Lucius charged at Harry then got knocked down a flight of stairs by Dobby. |
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05-29-2004, 09:57 PM
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who knew?
dear god, JK continues to surprise me with her in-depth look into all the aspects of her books - Avada Kedavera => adhadda kedhabhra => let the thing be destroyed
who would have thunk it?
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06-03-2004, 01:15 AM
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Also, don't forget the similarities to the word "cadaver". A cadaver is a dead body...
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