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upichie · 04-29-2004, 05:43 PM

I was just wondering if anyone has any good combo's that I can base a deck around... So, anything, one turn kills, infinite life, infinite mana production... Any combo that's deck worthy so I can base a deck around it... Let me know what combo's you guys have... Thanks for your time,

~upichie

Zeta · 04-29-2004, 10:25 PM

Infinite Life? Daru Spiritualist + Nomad or Shaman en-Kor + Worthy Cause/Starlit Sanctum.

upichie · 04-30-2004, 06:26 PM

Well, first of all, I only want T2 (Type Two) combos... That was my fault...

Secondly, it might just be me on a lazy Friday, but, where the heck is the infinite life??? lol...

Anyone Else,

~upichie

joemomma_86 · 04-30-2004, 09:36 PM

i realy dont think that their are that many good t2 combos to base a deck around.

Zeta · 04-30-2004, 10:41 PM

Upichie: There's a T2 version of that combo...Daru Spiritualist + Lightning Greaves + Starlit Sanctum + another creature.

The idea with both is to use the en-Kors/Greaves to target Spiritualist 1000000 times, then sac it to Sanctum or Cause and gain huge life.

You can use this with Test of Endurance to win on the next turn, or to bring an Ageless Entity up to massive amounts.

PyRo Teh P0wnz0rz · 05-01-2004, 05:59 PM

The greaves whould work fine, but I don't think the En-Kors would be able to target the spiritualist unlimitedly. The actual text of the card says "redirect 1 damage", and unless you could infinitely deal damage to it, then you couldn't infinitely target something.

I don't think there's any T2 combos like what you're looking for.

For a normal combo I like Disciple of the Vault and Atog..etc...

uh. yeah.

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Zeta · 05-01-2004, 07:57 PM

Pyro, the original text isn't what matters, the Oracle is. It says "Redirect the NEXT 1 damage that would be dealt to it to TARGET creature you control."

So it's usable. ^_^

theorigamist · 05-01-2004, 10:27 PM

The original text is correct unless there has been an errata. The reason this works is because the ability only targets the creature, and not the damage. So the damage doesn't need to exist for the ability to resolve.

spartan4life · 05-02-2004, 10:26 AM

Um, I think a good T2 combo would be Skullclamp+Auirok Steelshaper+Tangleroot (or something). Combo that with elves and Reminisce to keep playing spells then finish off with Brain Freeze. I saw it at the Regionals, and it was quite good.

upichie · 05-03-2004, 04:34 PM

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i realy dont think that their are that many good t2 combos to base a deck around.

Just checkin'...

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Upichie: There's a T2 version of that combo...Daru Spiritualist + Lightning Greaves + Starlit Sanctum + another creature.

The idea with both is to use the en-Kors/Greaves to target Spiritualist 1000000 times, then sac it to Sanctum or Cause and gain huge life.

You can use this with Test of Endurance to win on the next turn, or to bring an Ageless Entity up to massive amounts.

Okay, NOW I understand, lol... Well, I guess that's pretty effective, IF you can pull it off... But, personally, combo decks are the hardest to play unless you play them right with tons of supporting cards... Anyways, thanks for the comments...

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The greaves whould work fine, but I don't think the En-Kors would be able to target the spiritualist unlimitedly. The actual text of the card says "redirect 1 damage", and unless you could infinitely deal damage to it, then you couldn't infinitely target something.

I don't think there's any T2 combos like what you're looking for.

For a normal combo I like Disciple of the Vault and Atog..etc...

uh. yeah.

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No comment, although I like your ending...

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Pyro, the original text isn't what matters, the Oracle is. It says "Redirect the NEXT 1 damage that would be dealt to it to TARGET creature you control."

So it's usable. ^_^

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The original text is correct unless there has been an errata. The reason this works is because the ability only targets the creature, and not the damage. So the damage doesn't need to exist for the ability to resolve.

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, I think a good T2 combo would be Skullclamp+Auirok Steelshaper+Tangleroot (or something). Combo that with elves and Reminisce to keep playing spells then finish off with Brain Freeze. I saw it at the Regionals, and it was quite good.

Umm, I don't really understand... Which cards??? I sort of need the full names or I'm lost... lol... But, seriously, which cards and what exactly is the combo?? LMK...

THANKS (For Nothing) EVERYONE

the zealotpker · 05-03-2004, 06:49 PM

An overlooked combo is Veldaken Archmage+Tolarian Academy. Not a direct combo, but basically play an affinity deck, turn 4 you get out an archmage, turn 5 you start playing a ton of stuff, draw a ton of cards, get like 10+ artifact on field. Then you lay down tolarian academy. Tap it. Add 10+ mana to your mana pool. Play more stuff. Laugh at your opponent, as you tap a volcanic island to play a universal haste enchantment. Send an army of 20 or so artifacts at your opponent. ggnore

upichie · 05-03-2004, 06:50 PM

Do you have a deck list of that???

spartan4life · 05-03-2004, 08:05 PM

Heres how it works. Play a Auriok Steelshaper out. Then, play a Tangleroot and Skullclamp. Play a 1/1 elf for 1 green mana. Attatch the Skull clamp 2 it. Draw 2. Play more elves. Lather rinse and repeat. When you get close to running out of cards in your library play Reminsce (shuffle you graveyard into your deck) and start it over again. When you play about 30 spells from this combo of elves (yes this is all in one turn) play Brain Freeze and make them remove the top 3 cards of his library for each spell you played. If you played agaisnt multiple opponents play the Reminsce again and reapeat.

VERY VERY effective.

x0xjarethx0x · 05-04-2004, 02:18 PM

ifinite mana: Wirewood channeler, Pemmins Aura, 1 or more random elves.
put pemmins aura on channeler, tap for blue mana, use U to untap, repeat as often as you like. for the last turn, tap for the color you need and either fireball, stream of life, or anyother x spell (chalice of the void).

Infini-freeze. Cards needed: Cowardice, Lightning Greaves, Ornithopter, Brainfreeze
on field: cowardice and lightning greaves with 2 open mana one of which is blue. play ornithoper and equip the greaves to it. With cowardice effect it goes back to your hand. Repeat often and the brainfreeze for a whole lot.

Infinite Creatures. March of the Machines on field. SoulFoundry with an Imprinted ornithopter. Intruder alarm on field

upichie · 05-04-2004, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by spartan4life

Heres how it works. Play a Auriok Steelshaper out. Then, play a Tangleroot and Skullclamp. Play a 1/1 elf for 1 green mana. Attatch the Skull clamp 2 it. Draw 2. Play more elves. Lather rinse and repeat. When you get close to running out of cards in your library play Reminsce (shuffle you graveyard into your deck) and start it over again. When you play about 30 spells from this combo of elves (yes this is all in one turn) play Brain Freeze and make them remove the top 3 cards of his library for each spell you played. If you played agaisnt multiple opponents play the Reminsce again and reapeat.

VERY VERY effective.

Okay, well, do you have any deck lists that are based on that combo??? I am just curious as to how they would play...

upichie · 05-04-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by x0xjarethx0x

ifinite mana: Wirewood channeler, Pemmins Aura, 1 or more random elves.
put pemmins aura on channeler, tap for blue mana, use U to untap, repeat as often as you like. for the last turn, tap for the color you need and either fireball, stream of life, or anyother x spell (chalice of the void).

Infini-freeze. Cards needed: Cowardice, Lightning Greaves, Ornithopter, Brainfreeze
on field: cowardice and lightning greaves with 2 open mana one of which is blue. play ornithoper and equip the greaves to it. With cowardice effect it goes back to your hand. Repeat often and the brainfreeze for a whole lot.

Infinite Creatures. March of the Machines on field. SoulFoundry with an Imprinted ornithopter. Intruder alarm on field

Okay, thanks for the combos... Taking all into consideration... Just trying to figure out how to base a deck around them... Anyone have any deck lists??? hat would be a great help... Let me know... Thanks for your time,

~upichie

joemomma_86 · 05-05-2004, 08:52 PM

Green

4 Birchlore Ranger
4 Elvish Lyrist
4 Elvish Scrapper
4 Viridian Acolyte
4 Elvish Pioneer
4 Brown Ouphe

Blue

4 Fabricate
2 Reminsce
1 Brainfreeze

Artifacts

4 Tangleroot
4 Skullclamp

Other
4 Auirok Steelshaper
9 Island
8 Forest

if your going to thank anyone thank spartan4life he posted it on the deck disscusion..

lifemaster506 · 05-05-2004, 09:50 PM

Hi i made this deck right after urzas saga came out it was based around the serra avatar, angelic chourus, rememberance, and worthy cause i got to 64 billion+ life in one game alone but no real way to kill so i revised it now like 4+yrs later or so with some new stuff i think it would be unbeatable. ? I call it LIFE BEFORE DEATH! 63 cards a lil slow but very hard to beat you can 4x you life every turn at least. not to mention the words of worship+well of lost dream combo to to help with drawing and early life.

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"LIFE BEFORE DEATH"

LIFE %
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3-angelic chorus
3-rememberance
3-serra avatar
3-worthy cause
4-soul wardens
2-congragate
1-spirit link
3-well of lost dreams
3-words of worship

DEATH %
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3-fling
2-bloodshot cyclops
2-outmanuver
1-savage beatings

OTHER
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2-eternal dragons
1-platinum angel
1-vulshok battlemaster
1-loxodon warhammer
1-sword of fire and ice
4-enlightened tutors

LANDS
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4-mountains
9-plains
1-lotus vale
1-reflecting pool
2-smoldering craters
1-icatian store
2-forbidding watchtowers

upichie · 05-06-2004, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lifemaster506

Hi i made this deck right after urzas saga came out it was based around the serra avatar, angelic chourus, rememberance, and worthy cause i got to 64 billion+ life in one game alone but no real way to kill so i revised it now like 4+yrs later or so with some new stuff i think it would be unbeatable. ? I call it LIFE BEFORE DEATH! 63 cards a lil slow but very hard to beat you can 4x you life every turn at least. not to mention the words of worship+well of lost dream combo to to help with drawing and early life.

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"LIFE BEFORE DEATH"

LIFE %
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3-angelic chorus
3-rememberance
3-serra avatar
3-worthy cause
4-soul wardens
2-congragate
1-spirit link
3-well of lost dreams
3-words of worship

DEATH %
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3-fling
2-bloodshot cyclops
2-outmanuver
1-savage beatings

OTHER
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2-eternal dragons
1-platinum angel
1-vulshok battlemaster
1-loxodon warhammer
1-sword of fire and ice
4-enlightened tutors

LANDS
---------------------
4-mountains
9-plains
1-lotus vale
1-reflecting pool
2-smoldering craters
1-icatian store
2-forbidding watchtowers

Thanks for the deck... It is a good deck, but, I wouldn't say undefeatable... I find a common flaw, the fact that it is too slow... The reason I find this is when I play it, yes, I CAN get a lot of life, but I often find that I have no monsters on the field... I can gain life, but not a whole lot, and not enough to keep me safe until the monsters come out... Okay, first of all, the red cards that you started are for the kill, I wold just take them out, you can erplcae them with better things, I played 3x games with this deck not once did I use ANY of them... So, I would suggest taking those out for some stall... I think this deck would be A LOT more effective if you take out the red cards and and some stall and some speed... You should focus this deck around getting the Serra Avatar out... So, stall them, while you slowly gain life, and when you have enough land out, hit 'em with Serra Avatar... I think it is quite fun using her, just getting that combo off is like a dead lock... It's funny, play her and you gain tnos of life, sac her for tons of life, AND she comes back to you hand... Next turn, REPEAT!!! Great fun, but, you dont really need that much life, but either way, just get her out will that Chorus thing and BAM you got a HUGE beatstick... Literally!!! I had 3x Serra Avatars on the field, EACH with OVER 1x MILLION POWER AND TOUGHNESS!!! Glorious victory, but, just too slow... Anywho, might fix up this deck if I have the time... But all in all, nice deck... Thanks for your time,

~upichie