Pot of Greed gone for Good

[Master_Kakashi]

Originally Posted by Iron butterfly

Pot of Greed is arguably not broken, so wouldn't it be even less broken if they created a card to counter it? Blackhole has Whitehole, Swords of Revealing Light has Weather Report, Pot of Greed could have..

Pot of Generosity.
Trap.
Search every players hand, graveyard, and deck for cards by the name Pot of Greed and remove them from the duel. Each player gains 100 lifepoints for every Pot of Greed removed this way. Shuffle each player's deck afterward.

You don't even know the game fully yet you still insist on arguing.....
1.)Jar Robber
Group: Spell Card
Type: Spell
Icon:Quick-Play
You can only activate this card when "Pot of Greed" is activated. Negate the effect of the "Pot of Greed". You draw 1 card from your Deck.

2.)Pot of Generosity
Group: Spell Card
Type: Spell
Return 2 cards from your hand to your Deck. Then shuffle your Deck.
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Nomi-restricted card negation sucks. Anybody who disagrees is a n00b.

[Iron butterfly]

Well ofcourse it sucks, it can only function against that one card. But it was created for a reason. To shutup people who say "0mGz! p0t of Gr33d 15 t3h Br0k3nZ!1eleven!1!"

[Master_Kakashi]

Originally Posted by Iron butterfly

Well ofcourse it sucks, it can only function against that one card. But it was created for a reason. To shutup people who say "0mGz! p0t of Gr33d 15 t3h Br0k3nZ!1eleven!1!"

And also to laugh at them for using one of the most situational cards ever created. =\!

[Br!nK^]

Pot of Greed is still in the OCG restricted list.

For worlds ENG and OCG lists have to be the same, so if *** still has PoG on there next list we will get it back. It is simple as that, but they will proberly lose it by then.

[Rudoku]

Originally Posted by Br!nK^

Pot of Greed is still in the OCG restricted list.

For worlds ENG and OCG lists have to be the same, so if *** still has PoG on there next list we will get it back. It is simple as that, but they will proberly lose it by then.

They don't HAVE to, since Japanese players have to play with UDE's cardpool, but I'd like it to stay the same.

[Iron butterfly]

Another reason I'm not fond of this deal between Konami and Upperdeck. The Japanease created this game, yet they have to follow American rules? That's bullcrap. We should do as thier tournaments do, as well as allow Japanease cards. Both translated and un-translated. (Just make sure you get a judge who knows how the untranslated cards work to avoid cheating..)

That's what Wizards of the Coast did with Pokemon and does with Duel Masters..

[Exiled]

Originally Posted by Iron butterfly

Another reason I'm not fond of this deal between Konami and Upperdeck. The Japanease created this game, yet they have to follow American rules? That's bullcrap. We should do as thier tournaments do, as well as allow Japanease cards. Both translated and un-translated. (Just make sure you get a judge who knows how the untranslated cards work to avoid cheating..)

That's what Wizards of the Coast did with Pokemon and does with Duel Masters..

It's not UDE's fault because Konami/Shueisha sin't releasing Promos here as quick as possible. The TCG Players are in a constant shortfall of cards compared to the OCG. Maybe if OCG Cards are Legal in the US/Canada then we'd follow the OCG Rules. Don't forget, The Tsukuyomi/TER Rule favored the OCG during Worlds and effectively created Goat Control here

[hachiroku]

Originally Posted by Br!nK^

Pot of Greed is still in the OCG restricted list.

For worlds ENG and OCG lists have to be the same, so if *** still has PoG on there next list we will get it back. It is simple as that, but they will proberly lose it by then.

I think that probably on the next OCG, Pot is still restricted since they don't seem to have a problem with having pot AND graceful in the restricted list.

As for our list, i just hope that Pot (our old time classic) comes back for our next list just so that our decks dont have to use up 3 slots for 2 dekoichi's and tsuku just to gain a drawing power and have 1 pot replace all 3 cards.

[CED_Explosion]

Although I love Pot of Greed, I think it hould stay on the list. I cringe when PoA is played on me, let alone PoG. without any restrictions, it's just too good to come back.

[MajinSageofDarkness]

Pot of Avarice can be just as good in a correctly formatted deck. The MPT (Merchant Pot Turbo) decks running two to three Avarice' are just eeeeevil! I don't miss Pot of Greed as I play OCG I just choose not to run it.

[BreakerKing]

hey I know that you want to be proven wrong but i am a little worried because konami likes to bann cards that people like using, so they might bann pot of avarice really really soon.

[PMasterS]

Originally Posted by Br!nK^

Pot of Greed is still in the OCG restricted list.

For worlds ENG and OCG lists have to be the same, so if *** still has PoG on there next list we will get it back. It is simple as that, but they will proberly lose it by then.

Actually its been stated that during world championships the UDE list will be used.

[Warriors of Light]

Well anyone that goes to Greentree Sport Cards would most definitly hope so...lol... i would use Pot of Greed like at least 3 times a duel

[Iron butterfly]

Originally Posted by BreakerKing

hey I know that you want to be proven wrong but i am a little worried because konami likes to bann cards that people like using, so they might bann pot of avarice really really soon.

Doubt it, Pot of Avarice despite it's popularity is very situational, you can't use it unless you can meet it's prequisites..

[wingzero001]

well to me pot of greed needs to come back the game has gone bad this ban list its way to slow and not really fun we need drawl power and some thing that will pick the game back up alot of people i know stopt playing becouse of how boreing the game has goten i hope next ban list they make it a lil more fun but thats just me does any 1 agree?

[Paladinseer007]

Originally Posted by wingzero001

well to me pot of greed needs to come back the game has gone bad this ban list its way to slow and not really fun we need drawl power and some thing that will pick the game back up alot of people i know stopt playing becouse of how boreing the game has goten i hope next ban list they make it a lil more fun but thats just me does any 1 agree?

I say here,here to that, because in all honesty, it was a mistake to ban pot in the first place. DRAW TWO CARDS FROM THE TOP OF YOUR DECK NO!!!!!!!!I'VE LOST!!!!!!!!! Come on, it's not based on luck, just a case of a 50/50 shot of what you need in a duel.

[Revenge of Spirits]

Originally Posted by Roku

I do somewhat agree that Konami is getting worse at making cards. They aren't doing this game a favor by trying to constantly improve the E-hero's for 5 sets straight =/.

I agree. It's like they want the world to start running E-Hero Decks. They should have just crammed all the E-Heros in one set, and have been done with it.

[wingzero001]

i agree with that they are getting BAD at maken sets ioc was the best ast was good only for enemy controler fet was good crv had cyber dragon's and some other good things I WILL NEVER RUN E HERO'S just becouse they are maken gx sets does not mean every body is going to run e hero's cuz thats all they seem to be comen out with even then e hero's suck the only people who run them is little kids and new people who think just becouse they are great on the t.v show doesnt mean they are that great in real life besides that the t.v show sucks 2 its only about jaden this and jaden that and fuse this and fuse that most people only like it becouse it doesnt have yugi and joy and every one else hey they use POT OF GREED on the t.v show plus cards and combos we really cant use i really hope they start maken better sets or yugioh will DIE alot of people i know are quiting if it went down to us just playing e hero decks the game will be done cuz no body will play them just little kids between the ban list and them comen out with lame sets there killing them self pot of greed should of stayed they baned and limited stuff that i dont think should of been on there does any body out there agree to what im saying ?

[Master_Kakashi]

If the contents of a deck suck, they'll get nearly no benefit. If you fill things with CC material, you're bound to get a great tradeoff. There is no arguement. It needs to stay. =\

[Paladinseer007]

Originally Posted by wingzero001

i agree with that they are getting BAD at maken sets ioc was the best ast was good only for enemy controler fet was good crv had cyber dragon's and some other good things I WILL NEVER RUN E HERO'S just becouse they are maken gx sets does not mean every body is going to run e hero's cuz thats all they seem to be comen out with even then e hero's suck the only people who run them is little kids and new people who think just becouse they are great on the t.v show doesnt mean they are that great in real life besides that the t.v show sucks 2 its only about jaden this and jaden that and fuse this and fuse that most people only like it becouse it doesnt have yugi and joy and every one else hey they use POT OF GREED on the t.v show plus cards and combos we really cant use i really hope they start maken better sets or yugioh will DIE alot of people i know are quiting if it went down to us just playing e hero decks the game will be done cuz no body will play them just little kids between the ban list and them comen out with lame sets there killing them self pot of greed should of stayed they baned and limited stuff that i dont think should of been on there does any body out there agree to what im saying ?

I agree with you, because I think that it was a mistake to ban pot of greed in the first place. And with the E-hero's, well my mind is out on that matter still debate over it. I also think that if this does continue the game will go down hill.

[champion_duelist]

well they do have jar robber why did they ban pog it make's no sense

[Masterdramon]

Originally Posted by champion_duelist

well they do have jar robber why did they ban pog it make's no sense

You're kidding me, right?
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No one uses Jar Robber, and anyone who does has most likely never won a game. I mean, Anti-Raigeki, White Hole, Gryphon Wing, and Call of the Grave all exist, but should that mean that their counterparts shouldn't be banned? I don't think so.

On topic, Pot should remain banned forever, because it is THE best card in the game. Period. It's an immediate +1 advantage, and it centers games around drawing it (and other cards like it) first, and reusing them as much as possible.

Graceful should also stay banned, for the reason of DW.

However, we do need some form of deck thinning, so with the Envoys gone, I say this: bring back Painful Choice!

Here's what I once said on the subject:

Originally Posted by Masterdramon

Painful Choice was, and still is, THE most strategetic card in the game. Its unbanning would help Fiends, Insects, Exodia, Strike Ninja, Fusions, Exchange of the Spirits, even Skull Servant decks... in short, it would be excellent for originality, as it is, first and foremost, a combo card.

And it's definitely more balanced than Pot. 2 for 1 > 1 for 1. Painful should come back, so that some matches can be at least somewhat be determined by skill.

All of that still stands. Of course, some adjustments would have to be made to the list (Chaos Sorceror, Pot of Avarice, and Treeborn Frog to 1, for instance), but it would really bring combo decks to the forefront, and hopefully dig us out of this stale "constant 1-for-1 until someone eventually 1-for-2's" format that's more boring than Traditional.

Oh, and BTW, please don't say any of that "pAnEfil and p0A = bRokins0rz!!!!!!!!1" crud. It's not as good of a combo as so very many people claim.

[Relinquished]

Originally Posted by Masterdramon

Graceful should also stay banned, for the reason of DW.

Quite the opposite. It should be UNBANNED because of Dark World. Dark World needs the help pretty bad. It will not make Dark World the almighty deck.