Gardevoir or SPeedrill?

[thatchick19]

which one should i take to my gym challenge?

okemon: [20]
4 Weedle
4 Kakuna
4 Beedrill
4 Dunsparce
4 Roselia

Trainers: [24]
4 Steven's Advice
4 Celio's Network
4 Rare Candy
4 Oak's Research
3 VS Seeker
2 Low Pressure System
2 Warp Point
1 Pokedex Handy 909

Energy: [16]
4 Double Rainbow Energy
12 Grass Energy


or


4 ralts
2 kirlia
2 gardevoirs r/s
1 gardevoir eme
2 gardevoir EX
2 pidgey
1 pidgeotto
2 pidgeot
3 dunsparce
2 mewtwo ex

4 candy
3 celios
1 scott
1 crystal shard
1 oaks research
2 stephens advice
3 Copy Cat
1 Battle Frontier
1 Mt. Moon
2 warp point
2 wallys training method

1 scramble
4 boost
1 heal
1 DoubleRainbow
11 psychic



also any modiications to either deck would be thanked!

[Kris Planer]

speedrill IMO, but if your running that pokemon line in it DONT USE DUNSPARCE! Use the EX: Dragon wurmpule instead, youll be able to pull alot more grass pokemon with it, since it can completly fill the bench. the rodelia isint necessary either, since you can logistically get a beedrill using link needle on turn two wioth DRE. Speedrill is also a perfect battle fronteir deck, espically since your not using pidgeot in it.

[Charizard1987]

gardevoir deck would be better coz in your 1st deck, you will having serious problem when facing fire deck..so I would advise you to add some pokomon to counter fire deck fo you want to use beedrill deck..and take out 1 roselia and 1 rare candy since weedle can help you to get beedril line.. ..

[Cross Fire88]

I would say Speedrill.

Like this though
4 Dunsparce
4 Weedle
3 Kakuna
4 Beedrill
2 Slugma
2 Magcargo
1/1 Kingdra

and like kris said use Battle frontier.

The strategy would be to Sparce for a 2 weedle and slugma. Don't get Kingdra involved unless it looks like fire's coming. and it won't be hard b/c it only takes 3 cards. Cargo could help you get it very easily.

[thatchick19]

which magcargo?
kingrda ex? and just one horsea?

[Cross Fire88]

Magcargo helps you search for other cards. Like pidgeot would. Kingdra is from Rocket Returns and its poke bodies allows all of your Pokemon to be weakness free which causes Beedrill to be near invincible

[Charizard1987]

but I prefer pidgeot more than magcargo..coz can counter dragon deck..but if you want to use magcargo, then add more card drawing so that can draw that card on that turn..

[nessthestampede]

dont use kingdra. run this:

3 weedle
2 kakuna
3 beedrill
3 dunsparce
3 slugma
3 magcargo
3 spoink
3 grumpig

this diversifies your pokemon types, building strength and flexibility with your deck, plus grumpig is great against all those ex's running around lately. the 1/1 kingdra line is worthless imo, and there is absolutely no need for a whopping 4 dunsparce and weedle, thats too many. 3 each is better, and it helps open up more space in your deck for better stuff.

[DeckMaster]

Originally Posted by nessthestampede

dont use kingdra. run this:

3 weedle
2 kakuna
3 beedrill
3 dunsparce
3 slugma
3 magcargo
3 spoink
3 grumpig

this diversifies your pokemon types, building strength and flexibility with your deck, plus grumpig is great against all those ex's running around lately. the 1/1 kingdra line is worthless imo, and there is absolutely no need for a whopping 4 dunsparce and weedle, thats too many. 3 each is better, and it helps open up more space in your deck for better stuff.

First off, 4 Sparce or none. 2nd off 4-3-4 Beedrill line is a must. 3rd off Grumpig would take to much time to power up, so there for you can't swarm, and its better as tech. 4th off, 2-2 Cargo line is best. 5th off, Kingdra is great, 1/1 is just fine, it helps vs weakness.

[Cross Fire88]

To DeckMaster:
Thats exactly what I would've said.

To NesstheStampede:
Having 3 Beedrill in a deck is pointless b/c you won't be able to max out all of his potential. You don't need Grumpig b/c well you'll be dealing OHKO's with Beedrill anyway. And if you didn't have Kingdra Blaze will completely own you at least this way you have a very good chance of contending with Blaze. Also with Kingdra you don't have to run Ancient Tomb, you can max out on Frontier. By adding so called "flexibility" you cripple the decks chance of doing its main purpose which is dealing OHKO's. Also 3/3 Magcargo line doesn't really fit in any deck 2/2 is best.

To Charizard1987:
You need TV reporter in any deck that runs Magcargo. Also your search engine is EXTREMELY important you can't afford to be crippeled by a battle frontier, or ATM rock.

To ThatChick19
I've been playtesting Speedrill and I wanted to give you my list in case you wanted to see how i played mine.

Pokemon 21
4 Dunsparce
4 Weedle
3 Kakuna
4 Beedrill
2 Slugma
2 Magcargo
1/1 Kingdra

Already Explained... But a wishing star Jirachi could help out quite a bit.

Energy 15
10 Grass
4 Double Rainbow
1 Scramble

There is only 1 scramble energy, if your down Scramble will give you that Link Needle for 1 energy and will get you caught up in no time.

Trainers 24
3 TV Reporter
3 Rare Candy
3 Steven's Advice
3 Celio's Network
3 Battle Frontier
3 Reversal
2 Scott
2 Retriever
2 Mr. Briney

Basically a standard trainer line up. Maxing out on Celtio, Steven, and TV reporter wasn't that necessary. If anything drop 1 Briney and Scramble for Jirachi and either BF or RC

[pokemonforever]

I don't like 4x Dunsparce. I find it a waste when 3x can be just as well and use a 1x for a better card. I like SpeeDrill if Dunsparce was changed to Wurmple and the entire line would be Grass types. But I've seen Gardevoir ex in action at Gym Challenge and it faired very very well if I can recall.

[Maxie90]

SPdrill deck needs jirachi(make a wish) to quicken the bdrill line.

[nikx1]

i tried this before and it worked well. bout 7/10 for speed.
Pokemon 19
4 Weedle
2 Kakuna
4 Beedrill

2 Horsea
1 Seadra
2 Kingdra

2 Paras
2 Parasect

Energy 17
6 Water
11 Grass

Trainers 24
4 Celio
4 Stevens Advice
4 VS Seeker
4 Rare Candy
3 Pokedex Handy 909
3 Battle Frontier
2 Retriever

[Lord Broly 8]

Use Wurmple instead of Dunsparce in Speedrill.