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Old 12-29-2013, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Evilswarms without Safe Zone? Yes - Evilswarm 2014

Hey guys I decided to repost my Evilswarm decks for the new format. Here is my build that doesn't run Safe Zone. Enjoy.


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Old 12-29-2013, 11:06 AM   #2
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looks pretty much the same as mine, great choice! i only prefer Safe Zone over mistake main because beetle lock gives us another win option against rogue decks.
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looks pretty much the same as mine, great choice! i only prefer Safe Zone over mistake main because beetle lock gives us another win option against rogue decks.
This is just my Safe Zone-less build. I do have a build with Safe Zone. I also feel Mistake is a must in the main.
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I don't think a second Baha is needed, now that we also have Nukeswarm/Shark Knight.

You could add a Daigutso Emeral for Lategame recycling, maybe a second Key Beetle if they get rid of him or a Crazy Box which helps against random Skill Drains when Ophion alone isn't big enough.

And have you ever tried out Upstart Goblin?
Speeds you up for more First Turn Ophion Plays.

Still, good list... can only make small suggestions. 8P
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Why you choose a build without Safe Zone?
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:43 AM   #6
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I don't think a second Baha is needed, now that we also have Nukeswarm/Shark Knight.

You could add a Daigutso Emeral for Lategame recycling, maybe a second Key Beetle if they get rid of him or a Crazy Box which helps against random Skill Drains when Ophion alone isn't big enough.

And have you ever tried out Upstart Goblin?
Speeds you up for more First Turn Ophion Plays.

Still, good list... can only make small suggestions. 8P
Meh, I never really used the second much tbh.

I don't want a second beetle in this build. Emeral and Box are good options though.

Never tried it, I would like to though. Suggestions?

@Vampire: I never said I preferred this over the regular. I just said I was posting a version without Safe Zone.
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Safe Zone I refuse to even test the deck without it.
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Safe Zone I refuse to even test the deck without it.
That is fine with me.
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Never tried it, I would like to though. Suggestions?
Meh, hard to make space. xD

Maybe 0-1 Monster (Mandra or Thunderbird), 0-2 Dress and/or 3-2 Traps (MF/1 Fiendish/Virus) for some Upstarts,
but I'm not really sure if any of that would be good choices...

Space reminds me off post PRIO Bujins, gnaaah!

@Safe Zone
With Dragons not dominating everything anymore Safe Zone has lost some power this format imo.
Not saying it's bad right now, but just not as good as it was with them Dragons.
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I don't like Upstart Goblin in this deck.
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Meh, hard to make space. xD

Maybe 0-1 Monster (Mandra or Thunderbird), 0-2 Dress and/or 3-2 Traps (MF/1 Fiendish/Virus) for some Upstarts,
but I'm not really sure if any of that would be good choices...

Space reminds me off post PRIO Bujins, gnaaah!
Ok I will think of some of those.

Yeah, post PRIO Bujin deck space is a joke lol. I can barely change around one card in the deck.


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I don't like Upstart Goblin in this deck.
It is pretty good in here tbh. Just it is hard to fit in with tight deck space.
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Upstart Goblin might be good in the deck, I personally don't wanna remove anything for it in my build. I think I got my side done. What is the reasoning behind the Field card in your side?
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Upstart Goblin might be good in the deck, I personally don't wanna remove anything for it in my build. I think I got my side done. What is the reasoning behind the Field card in your side?
It hurts Prophecy's recycling with their field spell. If they can't reuse fate they will have a hard time. It also hurts GK's.
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Oh so basically it is to lockdown the Field area.
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Oh so basically it is to lockdown the Field area.
Yeah pretty much.
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-1 Evilswarm Thunderbird
+1 The Transmigration Prophecy

I have also seen people main Gozen Match but I guess the effectiveness of it next format.
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I have also seen people main Gozen Match but I guess the effectiveness of it next format.
Next format 3 Thunderbird will be needed. If he decided to add it I would remove the 3rd Fiendish Chain for it.
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Next format 3 Thunderbird will be needed. If he decided to add it I would remove the 3rd Fiendish Chain for it.

Definitely will not need 3 Evilswarm Thunderbird, it barely adds to the spam Ophion factor; true it is a good floater but it is searchable so it is not needed at 3.
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Why play potentially tier 1 decks without spending tier 1 money?
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I have also seen people main Gozen Match but I guess the effectiveness of it next format.
I'll think about that but I really like thunderbird at three. Thanks.

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Next format 3 Thunderbird will be needed. If he decided to add it I would remove the 3rd Fiendish Chain for it.
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Definitely will not need 3 Evilswarm Thunderbird, it barely adds to the spam Ophion factor; true it is a good floater but it is searchable so it is not needed at 3.
Yeah, it is searchable, but we can't search on a consistent basis. Since Infection is slow.
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Why play potentially tier 1 decks without spending tier 1 money?
It won't be tier one, tier 2 possibly. And I do own 2 Safe Zone. As said above this is my Safe Zone-less build.

Do I have to keep saying that?
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Definitely will not need 3 Evilswarm Thunderbird, it barely adds to the spam Ophion factor; true it is a good floater but it is searchable so it is not needed at 3.
Next format the deck won't be focused on Ophion. Yes it is searchable but I think it's needed at 3, but some do think it's not.

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The tier status of this deck will depend on the outlook of the tier decks.

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YugiohExpert98 your side is oh most the same as mine but with a couple changes.
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The tier status of this deck will depend on the outlook of the tier decks.

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YugiohExpert98 your side is oh most the same as mine but with a couple changes.
That is true.

What's your side?
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That is true.

What's your side?
Go to my thread and look, I think I got down now. I think I fixed the problem I faced at local.
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Go to my thread and look, I think I got down now. I think I fixed the problem I faced at local.
I'll do that in a minute.
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