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Old 12-17-2013, 04:41 PM   #526
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It's good outside of Hootcake but not crazy. By comparison Hootcake is so good that you have to splash in loads of other cards just so you can use it consistently.
I think the players would play Maxx c and veiler nonetheless but Im not denying its a good card.
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What about March 2012 with Dino Rabbit, Wind-Up, Chaos Dragons, and Inzektors? At what number of decks that are meta do we call a format "diverse"?
agreed, i think this format^^ and Tengu Plant format were pretty diverse, just that considering how terrible ygo has gotten, if you wanna think according to that guy whos says theres never been a diverse format, then according to his thinking, this evil theory spiked in my head, which makes sense but i still hate it

"We all play the top tier decks, with all the best cards, until we find the outrageously broken ones and knock off everything else tier 1.5/2 and lower, disregarding playing anything else"

ew. that theory makes me wanna burn something. just how expensive and lemming effect that theory is, but makes me....pfft. ew im not listening to that guy, diverse or not, i like diverse formats. Yes its true that non-diverse formats are easier to top/win, but diversity is diversity and more decks mean not only other decks have the chance to win, its less BORING to see the same 6 top tier decks just cycle the self over and over like laundry
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Hootcake's cost is a tiny thing though, Madolche not being able to support that in the past doesn't make him balanced.

To me, at least, I see Anjelly as the chibi Dragon Rulers, while Hootcake is the big ones. Anjelly is perfectly designed to be abused with the actually broken card, but isn't super insane outside of that interaction.
Neither card should've been created.
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Well, there can be a tier 0, but there hasn't been a true tier 0 since Airblade Turbo.
Wasnt Six Samurai a Tier 0 Deck in Storm of Ragnarok format with 3x Gateway and 3x Shien?
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Wasnt Six Samurai a Tier 0 Deck in Storm of Ragnarok format with 3x Gateway and 3x Shien?
Blackwings were capable of going toe-to-toe with it iirc.
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Wasnt Six Samurai a Tier 0 Deck in Storm of Ragnarok format with 3x Gateway and 3x Shien?
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Starlight road wont do anything.

At best stardust and garunix will just dance off the field at the start of each turn.
Stardust can't keep coming back if summoned off Starlight Road.
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Stardust can't keep coming back if summoned off Starlight Road.
Whoops , my mistake. But it can if its correctly synchro summon which isn't hard to do tbh.

There are better cards to use than starlight anyway.
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Is it pointless to lose faith in decks that auto-lose to turn 1 Evilswarm Ophion? Level 5 or Higher Monsters Cannot be Special Summoned.

Decks that get pissed off by this Turn 1 Opening Play (some might have outs,but ill explain more later)

Monarchs
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Karakuri (top tier so no need to argue)
Dragunities (Pure)

Already thats an Impressive 9 Decks That have Evilswarms typically have a good matchup against, but decks like that is it pointless to have faith in making them top tier as long as evilswarms exist? or sideboard like a ************ and defeat the deck?
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Is it pointless to lose faith in decks that auto-lose to turn 1 Evilswarm Ophion? Level 5 or Higher Monsters Cannot be Special Summoned.

Decks that get pissed off by this Turn 1 Opening Play (some might have outs,but ill explain more later)

Monarchs
Gladiator Beast
X-Sabers
Spellbooks
Mermail (top tier so no need to argue)
Hieratics
Chaos Dragons
Karakuri (top tier so no need to argue)
Dragunities (Pure)

Already thats an Impressive 9 Decks That have Evilswarms typically have a good matchup against, but decks like that is it pointless to have faith in making them top tier as long as evilswarms exist? or sideboard like a ************ and defeat the deck?
Ok , I posted this before I will post it again.

What the HELL does ophion do against monarchs?
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Old 12-17-2013, 05:28 PM   #536
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Monarchs aren't hurt by Ophion AT ALL.

Gladiator Beasts, Spellbooks, and Mermail all beat Evilswarm consistently.
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Safe zone wont even protect you. Not even beetle lock. As soon as you summon caius or raiza you win.
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:00 PM   #538
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Vanity's Emptiness would hurt for obvious reasons. But Monarchs trample on Evilswarms generally.
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Beast Warrior Koa'Ki meiru tier 0. Calling it now.
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Lavals are good when you're not playing the ******ed ass scrub-quasar version.

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you know nothing about dragons so just shut up. ffs.
give up on the deck already.
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Old 12-17-2013, 08:15 PM   #541
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Do you guys think Effect Veiler and Maxx "C" will still be good side deck choices?
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Beast Warrior Koa'Ki meiru tier 0. Calling it now.
? Doesn't the Spell Card come out in Primal Origins?

Looking at a May release when there will be an entire different Ban List.

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Do you guys think Effect Veiler and Maxx "C" will still be good side deck choices?
Hard to say really.

IMO Bujins, Mermail, Constellar, and Fire Fists are going to be the most played. Veiler does not do much against either of those decks, expect Fire Fist.

Maxx C is also not that great either.

I would say Maxx C has the better potential to be a side deck card over Veiler. But I will definitely not be maining any of them come Jan.
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Effect Veiler is staple in the main, wtf.
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Hard to say really.

IMO Bujins, Mermail, Constellar, and Fire Fists are going to be the most played. Veiler does not do much against either of those decks, expect Fire Fist.

Maxx C is also not that great either.

I would say Maxx C has the better potential to be a side deck card over Veiler. But I will definitely not be maining any of them come Jan.
i was thinking maybe 2 of each just in case.
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Safe zone wont even protect you. Not even beetle lock. As soon as you summon caius or raiza you win.
Mega Caius... I'm making Ghostrick Monarchs the day that is announced.
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Mega Caius... I'm making Ghostrick Monarchs the day that is announced.
EVERYONE is making Ghostrick Monarchs the day it is announced.Or at least a few people will try it out.
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GK could potentially work as well if needed.
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I was gonna look up a "Yes Master..." cult meme of the sort but google images brought up... lets say not what I was looking for.
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I like how this game works.
Right now Maxx "C" is a 3 card in the main, but next format you should be running 2-3 Veiler. No ifs, ands, or buts.
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