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Old 12-11-2013, 09:23 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Would Immortality Be Worse Than Death?

A very deep question indeed, I would love to hear opinions on this subject.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:04 PM   #2
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Yes, immortality would be worse than death.
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Old 12-11-2013, 10:39 PM   #3
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It depends, at least you'll be living off a nice pension after retirement. When I think of immortality, I'd wish not to feel pain. That way it'll be great to go beyond the limits of life.
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It depends, at least you'll be living off a nice pension after retirement. When I think of immortality, I'd wish not to feel pain. That way it'll be great to go beyond the limits of life.
If I felt no pain, I would swallow an Atlas Stone and hope they replace my current pair as a whole.
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No, why?

Because to escape mortality you have to artificially store your mind on something or re-create your body as it malfunctions.

Your telomere's will only divide a certain number of times before you die, or so I hear.

Basically, being immortal in your human body would be hell...sure, but, Being immortal as an artificial intelligence? I'm not sold. That could be cool. With people producing functional mind manipulated prosthetic limbs and scientists laboring tirelessly to understand and ultimately re-create the brain, who knows?

Maybe 50 years from now the richest people in the world will become immortal or something after world war 6.

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not worth it death gives meaning to life
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Old 12-11-2013, 11:03 PM   #7
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not worth it death gives meaning to life
I agree death gives some of the meaning to life. I don't think escaping death through a theoretical technological singularity would necessarily mean your life would become pointless though.
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Why would you want to life forever...
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Think about it. Would you really want to live forever? 500 years? Sure. But for an eternity?? To watch people you know and love die again and again. Where is the value? The meaning? Life is about quality. To live this mortal life as best as possible. After a few hundred years you will feel like ur in hell, begging for death.
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Old 12-12-2013, 08:58 AM   #11
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Considering the body ages over time and becomes more and more defunct, yes immortality is worse then death. I'd rather die this very second then be immortal and live forever, but that's mainly due to how much lack of confidence I have in myself and overall humanity. I'm a negative dweller of the flaws and faults of humanity, probably because I hold onto so much past hurt and believe that past hurt is going to be a continuation of everyday life.

I've hanged out with the older folk more then the people of my own age and they're always telling me I have it off easy compared to them and that growing old sucks because the body keeps getting more worn and torn.

There's too much recklessness and chaos of our own minds and the world overall to live forever. I'm pretty sure if we could live forever then we'd eventually suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._oldest_people

Looks like women have a longer life expectancy then men, so that's a plus for me.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:07 AM   #12
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No one seems to want to live forever. I wonder, how many people would like heaven then? Or any other afterlife for that matter.

Or is existing forever and "living" forever two separate things?
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Well, there is the body (considerably flesh) and then there is the soul. Some believe the soul lives forever, some say otherwise.
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Well, there is the body (considerably flesh) and then there is the soul. Some believe the soul lives forever, some say otherwise.
Agreed. My question is, does not wanting eternal life only apply to physical world, or is existing as a soul for eternity just as bad?
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It's how an individual interprets it, I suppose. Those that believe the soul lasts forever would probably want eternal life in a fleshless body. Those that do not believe the soul lasts forever would probably desire death over immortality because they think when death reaches them that it ends their entire life, essentially there is no afterlife.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:48 AM   #16
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Yeah, that is fair. Too be honest, the idea of being immortal seems very appealing to me. However, I feel if I could truly grasp the actual concept of eternity, I would be horrified of the idea.
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You are eternal the more you begin to accept that, even if your consciousness appears individualistic, you are a part of the universe.

We are all connected by the very particles that hold us together and help us function.
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I wouldn't mind living forever it would be interesting seeing all the advancements through the ages I'd probably want to die eventually tho T_T
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You are eternal the more you begin to accept that, even if your consciousness appears individualistic, you are a part of the universe.

We are all connected by the very particles that hold us together and help us function.
Perhaps. But with death our brains stop functioning. So while what we were made up of still exists, the individual would not. They would either be dead or a soul or other undetectable matter that inhabited the flesh would leave and go elsewhere.
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Little do you realize that you are constantly dying the more you forget your past self.

What connects you to your 5-year old self other than memories, and the memories of those that surrounded you then?
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Well technically you are correct. However, what connects us are memories. Memories which are stored in the brain. Long term memories for the most part would be in the hippocampus region of the brain. That only contributes to the idea that when the brain dies so does our sense of who we were.
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Little do you realize that you are constantly dying the more you forget your past self.

What connects you to your 5-year old self other than memories, and the memories of those that surrounded you then?
The memories of those who were not surrounding me at the moment but learned about it because of nosy brats.
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So are you saying there is nothing special about you outside of what your brain has experienced and the information it has stored?

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Old 12-12-2013, 12:27 PM   #24
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So are you saying there is nothing special about you outside of what your brain has experienced and the information it has stored?
I haven't really voiced my personal opinion on the matter. I'm just saying, unless there is a soul, then everything that makes you "you" is due to the brain. Anything beyond that is either divine speculation or things we would be unable to understand do to the "you" no longer existing because of a non-functioning brain.
I agree that technically everything we are made up of is connected. That's a bit of a romantic way of looking at it, but it's agreeable. I also agree that technically we aren't the same person we were when we were five years old. However, our brain has allowed us to maintain a sense of identity while our body continues to grow.
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Of course, but it can also be a defense mechanism. Sort of another reason why you need to "protect yourself" so the body continues to do what it is intended to do.
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