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Old 09-01-2013, 07:24 AM   #1
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Default A gladiator isn't dead deck for september 2013.

Okay so here's what i've thrown together for this format and it seems to work pretty well.

Monsters
Elemental Hero Prisma x3
Test Tiger x3
Gladiator Beast Bestiari x1
Gladiator Beast Murmillo x1
Gladiator Beast Equeste x2
Gladiator Beast Darius x2
Gladiator Beast Laquari x3
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Gladiator Beast Proving Ground x1
A Hero Lives x3
Onslaught of the Fire Kings x3
Forbidden Lance x3
Book of Moon x1
Traps
Call Of The Haunted x2
Gladiator Beast War Chariot x2
Icarus Attack x1
Waboku x2
Safe Zone x2
Torrential Tribute x1
Bottomless Trap Hole x1
Compulsory Evacuation Device x1
Fiendish Chain x2
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Gladiator Beast Essedarii x1
Gladiator Beast Heraklinos x1
Gladiator Beast Gyzarus x3
Maestroke x1
Diamond Dire Wolf x1
Evilswarm ouroborous x1
Abyss Dweller x1
Gagaga Cowboy x1
Blackship of Corn x1
Steelswarm Roach x1
Lavalval Chain x1
Constellar Ptomely M7 x1
Photon Strike Bounzer x1

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Old 09-01-2013, 10:28 AM   #2
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Drop 1 Proving Grounds, 1 ROTA, 1 Safe Zone, 1 CotH, and 1 Waboku for 2 Fiendish Chain/Breakthrough Skill, 1 BTH, 1 Torrential, and 1 Compulsory.

Have your Onslaughts been testing? I never really liked them personally.
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:52 AM   #3
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I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable dropping any of those, proving ground and rota are just too good here not to max out they help make my gyzarus spamming consistent and easy, Call Of The Haunted is just brilliant I was running 2 but the third one is replacing Monster Reborn and its just brilliant using it to bring back gyzarus to easily pop 2, I like 3 of each Safe Zone and Waboku just for consistency like they're both cards you really seeing in your first hand and herak with Safe Zone is evil..
onslaught is actually pretty good like if you go second and get onslaught with prisma, proving ground, rota or bestiari its a first turn gyzarus.

The deck has actually been working really well for me so far and the amount of gyzarus spamming is insane for a deck with just one bestiari. You should try it out for yourself and let me know what you think of it as is
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #4
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How often can you bring out Gladiator Beast Heraklinos? Personally that would be the only reason why I would main Safe Zone. Also I prefer 2 Tenki + Bear over proving grounds.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:06 AM   #5
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You don't need ROTA, especially if you have 3 AHL already. You don't even need Proving Grounds, 2 is definitely enough. You don't want it to become too cloggy. CotH is cloggy at 3. Most people only run 3 Safe Zone, 3 Waboku, or 2-2, never 3 of each because that becomes too cloggy as well. You need to fit in the cards that I suggest though. You need effect negation and the ability to stop your opponent's summons.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:20 AM   #6
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I can get him out like every duel for example use onslaught to summon laquari then summon prisma use his effect to dump bestiari go into gyzarus pop2 attack tag out into laquari and darius use darius eff to bring back bestiari and go into heraklinos.

And armadillos rota and proving ground are consistency and deck thinning and I dont know why you'd want to take out consistency.. and i've never had a problem with them clogging and i've yet to get a hand I cant work with. I do get where your coming from with those traps but I hadn't the room ŕnd theres nothing i'd really feel comfortable taking out. Besides the deck is very fast I can usually just pop everything and get their lp to zero pretty quickly. You really should test this out..
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:26 AM   #7
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I'm not going to argue with you if you can't see that those aren't needed at such high numbers.

I've tested it out. It was cloggy with 2 AHL, 1 ROTA, 2 Prisma, and 1 Stratos. You don't need ROTA at all. Proving Grounds isn't needed. You can either use 3 Test Tiger or as Blaze suggested, 2 Tenki and 1 Bear.
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:46 AM   #8
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I never ran stratos he was too slow. But I don't see how it was cloggy for you like prisma is your main play and you shuffle back into the deck after getting him out so I don't see how they're ever dead, all i've done was make getting prisma as consistent as possible I dont see how that's a bad thing. Proving ground really makes a big difference in the deck I don't see why you wouldn't run 3 like it'll be dead cause you nearly always have bestiari in your deck like any gladiator on the field with proving ground in hand is a gyzarus again I just cant understand why your hating consistency :/ Test Tiger is only really goood with prisma other than that its not that good and space is tight I could only fit in two and I dont really like bears and tenkis in ahl glads cause I don't see why youdsearch for the beast warriors like if you did you'd search laquari so onslaught is just a better card, and bears effect is really needed as I can spam gyzarus..
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Old 09-01-2013, 01:20 PM   #9
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Tested this build on DN: Cloggy as ****.
Tested this build IRL: Cloggy as ****.


Gladiator Beasts do not need excessive searching, nor are they MEANT to be played as a garbage "Gyzarus Spam" variant. You've succeeded in nothing more than creating an inconsistent pile of searchability. If you'd like to play a decent GB deck, I suggest you listen to the advice given by Blaze & ArmadilloZ.
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Dude if its clogging heavily you I don't know you just mustn't be able play glad beasts at all cause your making it sound unplayable which it isn't, I've never had problem with it. And just saying I love how pojoers contradict themselves cause I saw a build a while agi that had as much searching as mine does and it got great feedback but now all of a sudden consistency is a bad thing..
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So would rather be consistent than having protection? Because the build that you are currently trying to run is lacking protection. You won't survive very long.
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Gyzarus spam isn't the way to go anymore...if you can't keep up with the top decks in speed, which GB's can't, you've got to slow them down, hence the traps they're suggesting
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Safe zone and Waboku seem like decent protection to me but give me your changes and ill test them this evening
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Why are you loling atratos was slow unless you used A Hero Lives to summon him it kinda sucked to draw him but ye ill test your changes ina while
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Zone and Waboku protect your monsters from basically straight battle. You need the changes Armadillo suggested earlier
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Actually Safe Zone protects your monsters from everything not just battle and Waboku protects your life points as well even if you have no monsters. And they both help making it easier to tag out and you can just tag into murmillo then and pop their monster or into bestiari and go into gyzarus to pop 2 next turn.
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That's true, but that's not always the kind of protection you need. They won't interrupt your opponents combo's in the slightest, just get you a free tag and buy you a turn. Chain, Compulse, BTH, and Torrential will all disrupt their plays, as well as protecting your monsters.
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Oh I know that their cards I should put in but space was a problem I was just pointing out that your previous statement was false. I have done some testing ill update the op if I can but its awkward on my phone

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Much better, but just looking at the fact that you also have triple Onslaught, is 3 AHL and Prisma necessary? I've been playing straight AHL no Onslaught and using 2 Trap Stuns and they've been putting in crazy work, especially against Evilswarms and Bujin.
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I dropped AHL when Stratos was banned lol.
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Have you testing onslaughts though? I like them, they add a lot consistency. Onslaught can be a game changer, the the difference between being able to summmon one glad or two can mean a lot. I do like the sound of trap stuns but are they really needed in glads cause the only things your gonna really wanna stop are ced, bth and tt which are all at one.

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Why would you drop ahl cause of stratos,s ban? The deck didn't even need stratos..
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I tested Onslaught but never really liked it. I'd rather run 2 Tenki and a Bear.

And because AHL sucks without Stratos. It didn't NEED it, however that was my favorite play.
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Ah well I prefer onslaught to be honest.
But ye I didn't like summoning stratos with ahl I always preferred to summon prisma for a gyzarus plŕy.

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Dark Bribe is pretty bad and Starlight Road isn't very effective now that Heavy is banned. Replace those 2 with another Mirror Force (too inconsistent at 1) and another War Chariot.
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