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Old 07-07-2013, 11:37 AM   #476
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^i'm sure Telvin realizes this a a fun deck and not really competetive.
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Read the very first comment I made about Black Garden....

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Read the very first comment I made about Black Garden....

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Lol, just got owned by Zombie World.... Who the hell actually mains that... -_-
Maybe it's about time that we main a couple of MSTs

Good news: Just got to the finals of our weekly tournament here in ph using War Gods facing e-dragons, verz and 1 prophecy. Unfortunately, lost to e-dragons at the finals (1-2 though). Kaiser Coliseum and Vanity's Emptiness are really good. Mained 2 maxx c and 2 droll and lock bird. Sided-in d.d. crows against prophecy lol
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Read the very first comment I made about Black Garden....

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Lol, just got owned by Zombie World.... Who the hell actually mains that... -_-
pros main Zombie World in monarchs
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:11 PM   #481
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Do you guys use Droll & Lock against Prophecy?

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Do you guys use Droll & Lock against Prophecy?

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Lol, first duel against the mirror in a long while. My random OTK surprised him, to say the least...
Droll and Lock gives you a turn to... survive?

Btw, how did you OTKed?
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I actually like the idea of Magic Deflector against Prophecies. I say "idea" because I haven't had an opportunity to side it in yet. But consider:
  • It negates almost every Spellbook for free.
  • After resolving, it stuns almost every other Spellbook for the rest of the turn.
  • It's chainable.
  • Let's say the opponent uses Power to search for Judgment. If you drop Droll & Lock Bird, then they'll just hold Judgment until next turn. But with Magic Deflector, you still get to negate Judgment (and stun all other Spellbooks).
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Droll and Lock gives you a turn to... survive?

Btw, how did you OTKed?
You just need Black Garden to get you two tokens on the opponent's field. Make Susanoo and attack the two tokens with Habakiri. If you have 2 Habakiri, that's a perfect 8000 right there. The 2 Habakiri is easy enough to get due to Yamato and Susanoo's effects.

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I actually like the idea of Magic Deflector against Prophecies. I say "idea" because I haven't had an opportunity to side it in yet. But consider:
  • It negates almost every Spellbook for free.
  • After resolving, it stuns almost every other Spellbook for the rest of the turn.
  • It's chainable.
  • Let's say the opponent uses Power to search for Judgment. If you drop Droll & Lock Bird, then they'll just hold Judgment until next turn. But with Magic Deflector, you still get to negate Judgment (and stun all other Spellbooks).
I think I may use it over Mind Crush or something. Don't forget, it also stops MST, which can protect our most powerful counter, DNA Surgery.
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I think I may use it over Mind Crush or something. Don't forget, it also stops MST, which can protect our most powerful counter, DNA Surgery.
Not sure if bolded is serious.

But opponents can just activate MST on the chain.
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Not sure if bolded is serious.

But opponents can just activate MST on the chain.
Oh I'm sorry. Do Bujins have another Prophecy counter that is better than that? Because last time I checked, they don't. :3

And MST can be used on any Side Deck counter, so that's a moot point.
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Not sure if bolded is serious.

But opponents can just activate MST on the chain.
By using DNA Surgery to turn face-up monsters into Beast-Warriors, we...
  • Shut down Fate, Power, Tower, Wisdom, and Master. Not too shabby.
  • Make Habakiri and Murakumo live when we control any Bujin (including relics).
  • Can summon Kagutsuchi with any 2 monsters.

And yeah, almost anything you side can be hit by MST. Droll & Lock Bird is immune to that, but that advantage is balanced by the fact that it only has one thing it can do and the opponent can easily play around it.
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droll and lock is all hype and no substance. Card does nothing but buy you a turn, might as well play Waboku.
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Oh I'm sorry. Do Bujins have another Prophecy counter that is better than that? Because last time I checked, they don't. :3

And MST can be used on any Side Deck counter, so that's a moot point.
Oh I'm sorry. I was just curious as to the reason why you suggested DNA Surgery. Don't be a ****.

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By using DNA Surgery to turn face-up monsters into Beast-Warriors, we...
  • Shut down Fate, Power, Tower, Wisdom, and Master. Not too shabby.
  • Make Habakiri and Murakumo live when we control any Bujin (including relics).
  • Can summon Kagutsuchi with any 2 monsters.

And yeah, almost anything you side can be hit by MST. Droll & Lock Bird is immune to that, but that advantage is balanced by the fact that it only has one thing it can do and the opponent can easily play around it.
I see! Thanks for explaining!

And yep, even if one of our backrow gets hit by MST, as long as we can stymie Prophecy from massively plussing for a turn or two, Bujin will be in good shape.
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Oh I'm sorry. I was just curious as to the reason why you suggested DNA Surgery. Don't be a ****.



I see! Thanks for explaining!

And yep, even if one of our backrow gets hit by MST, as long as we can stymie Prophecy from massively plussing for a turn or two, Bujin will be in good shape.
Lol, sorry. It's just I thought you were being a smartass, and was saying that DNA Surgery sucked or something. xD It's a great Prophecy counter, and Bujins take full advantage of it.

Still iffy about using Droll & Lock again, but I guess it would be better than something in my side...

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Just beat Fire Kings in a match...

Needless to say, that was a little difficult.
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You just need Black Garden to get you two tokens on the opponent's field. Make Susanoo and attack the two tokens with Habakiri. If you have 2 Habakiri, that's a perfect 8000 right there. The 2 Habakiri is easy enough to get due to Yamato and Susanoo's effects.



I think I may use it over Mind Crush or something. Don't forget, it also stops MST, which can protect our most powerful counter, DNA Surgery.
how can? Black Garden make your attack halved
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Maybe it's about time that we main a couple of MSTs

Good news: Just got to the finals of our weekly tournament here in ph using War Gods facing e-dragons, verz and 1 prophecy. Unfortunately, lost to e-dragons at the finals (1-2 though). Kaiser Coliseum and Vanity's Emptiness are really good. Mained 2 maxx c and 2 droll and lock bird. Sided-in d.d. crows against prophecy lol
Ive put mst's back in. 2 mst 2 lance seems good.

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how can? Black Garden make your attack halved
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Black Garden is like, the BEST field spell for bujin's even in today's Meta. It cuts down the ATK of everything except our Yamato....Then lets us milk the tokens for damage, so yeah, BG+Habakiri= awesomeness of Apeture science and Chuck Norris.
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Ive put mst's back in. 2 mst 2 lance seems good.



Was thinking the same thing
ah nevermind what im asking.
have tested it on YGOPRO, and hamakiri said it is doubling his "original attack", which mean "his 2400 atk" to become "4800 atk". And the good thing is, after doubling, the attack Return to 2400 atk!
And when he attacking the second one, the attack doubling again to deal exactly 8000 dmg. simply good OTK

And whats good from Black Garden is when you combined it with kaiser colliseum. Just summon 1 monster, then your opponent cannot summon anything!! except he get rid either of kaiser or our monster XD

really love Black Garden now. Dont see trouble when im running 3.
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well here is my stab at a post-spectre build, of course it could change dramatically based on what the banlist stops come september:

Monsters: 22

3x Bujin - Yamato
2x Bujin - Mikazuchi
3x Bujin Relic - Hetsuka
2x Bujin Relic - Murakumo
3x Bujin Relic - Habakiri
2x Bujin Relic - Yata
1x Bujin Relic - Hachi
1x Brotherhood of the Fire Fist - Bear
1x Honest
2x Maxx "C"
2x Effect Veiler

Spells: 13

2x Pot of Duality
3x Fire Formation - Tenki
1x Rise of the Bujin
1x Monster Reborn
1x Heavy Storm
2x Forbidden Lance
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
1x Foolish Burial

Traps: 5

1x The Bujin Armament Apparition
1x Solemn Warning
1x Solemn Judgment
2x Compulsory Evacuation Device

Extra Deck: 15

1x Maestroke the Symphony Djinn
1x Evilswarm Ouroboros
1x Number 16: Shock Master
1x Photon Papilloperative
2x Bujin Emperor - Susanoo
1x Bujin Emperor - Kagutsuchi
1x Constellar Omega
1x Brotherhood of the Fire Fist - Tiger King
1x Diamond Dire Wolf
1x Starliege Paladynamo
1x Gagaga Cowboy
1x Number 50: Blackship of Corn
1x Lavalval Chain
1x Number 39: Utopia

Side Deck: 15

2x Breakthrough Skill
2x Gozen Match
2x DNA Surgery
1x Compulsory Evacuation Device
2x Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer
2x Droll & Lock Bird
2x Rivalry of Warlords
2x Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror

been actually working quite well so far, just want to fix the consistency a bit more, but otherwise, it seems to be working good
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just uploaded a testing session i had with the bujins on devpro today. went good, although they were all pretty scrubby as well as their decks, but thats how it goes on devpro sometimes, cant get the level of competition you want at times:

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