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Old 05-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #1
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I am a little new here, well not really I have actually been on here 1000s of times. Anyway back to the point I was at locals the other day and I was siding 2 Mind Drain from LTGY as a possible answer to E-Dragons. I play Heros, specifically BubbleBeat version. Now, thank god this scenario didn't happen because judges at my locals do not exist, new management.

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1) I have a face-up Mind Drain. I have no cards in hand except a Elemental Hero Bubbleman and lets assume my opponent has NOTHING to stop anything I do (to avoid cross rulings). Can I Special Summon Bubbleman while Mind Drain is on board?

2) Same exact situation but the Mind Drain is face down and can be activated. I Special Summon Elemental Hero Bubbleman and just for the sake of argument activate Mind Drain to my Bubbleman, would I still get the summon or not?

Quick Question) I am probably gonna sound really noobish and stupid for asking this, but is Elemental Hero Bubbleman Special Summon ability an Inherint Summon or not?

Please ONLY real answers no flaming, stupid/useless posts. Thanks, sorry if this has been asked before but I could not find it.


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Old 05-26-2013, 06:14 PM   #2
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Bubbleman's summon is a condition not an effect.

So mind drain can't negate it.
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Ok, thanks

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So mind drain can't negate it.
Not that Mind Drain could ever negate anything anyway.
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And it is an inherent special summon.
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Not that Mind Drain could ever negate anything anyway.
Well If it negates things like Megalo wouldn't it work if let's say bubbleman's summon is an effect?
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It doesn't negate megalo either. The effect can't be activated in the first place
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Not that Mind Drain could ever negate anything anyway.
Not to be rude, but you have no idea what your saying. I'm acting like the card is a god send or anything but it can negate/stop A LOT of stuff, Mermails, E-Dragons, Prophecy's High Priestess, Effect Veiler, D.D. Crow, Maxx "C", Gorz, Trag, Honest, etc the list is practically endless.

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And it is an inherent special summon.
That is what I thought so it becomes immune to things like Mind Drain as I understand it correct?

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It doesn't negate megalo either. The effect can't be activated in the first place
I think that is what they ment, it stops Megalo from coming out.

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Not to be rude, but you have no idea what your saying.
Sorry, I must have skimmed over the part on Soul Drain's text that includes the word "negate."

Oh wait.
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Sorry, I must have skimmed over the part on Soul Drain's text that includes the word "negate."

Oh wait.
Jez, you know that is not what I meant, good god. I was just saying how good it is, you were pointing out a technicality. BTW Negate/Stop can almost be used interchangeably in this sense. Also, no one said anything about Soul Drain.

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If a card doesn't say it negates anything, it doesn't negate anything.
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Not to be rude, but you have no idea what your saying. I'm acting like the card is a god send or anything but it can negate/stop A LOT of stuff, Mermails, E-Dragons, Prophecy's High Priestess, Effect Veiler, D.D. Crow, Maxx "C", Gorz, Trag, Honest, etc the list is practically endless.

I think that is what they ment, it stops Megalo from coming out.
"Can't activate" and "it's negated" is very different. Don't confuse the 2 terms.
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BTW Negate/Stop can almost be used interchangeably in this sense.
Thoughts like these are dangerous.
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It doesn't negate megalo either. The effect can't be activated in the first place
Oh ok then thanks.
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Thoughts like these are dangerous.
That's what my civics teacher said way back in middle school, lol. To all the people who immediately jumped on me saying the Negate vs Can't activate thing, Sorry. But in all fairness you all knew what I meant. No need to be all aggressive just relax a little we are all human, we all make mistakes.

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Jez, you know that is not what I meant, good god. I was just saying how good it is, you were pointing out a technicality. BTW Negate/Stop can almost be used interchangeably in this sense. Also, no one said anything about Soul Drain.

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Also, no one said anything about Soul Drain.
Alright, you got me here. I've had this conversation way too many times with Soul Drain.
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Wait

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>Telling people they're wrong

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Wait

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Wait just one minute, I never said anyone was wrong at all. I merely typed one thing meaning another and people jumped on me as if I had committed a sin. I only said to the one guy that Mind Drain was a good card and merely listed some cards it can "stop/prevent". I never once blatantly said to anyone they're wrong, if you take that way then it is your own issue. People are so uptight about this game, my god it is a game and this is the internet not everything is gonna be perfect, no one here is getting paid (to my knowledge), this is not some YCS we all are in. It is a game pure and simple. Everyone needs to just relax and calm down, it is not that important, jeesh.
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Mind drain is a great side deck card. Shuts down a lot of stuff that is going on right now especially E dragons and mermails. I like it coming frm my side deck along with Skill Drain. Really locks down a lot.
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Wait just one minute, I never said anyone was wrong at all. I merely typed one thing meaning another and people jumped on me as if I had committed a sin. I only said to the one guy that Mind Drain was a good card and merely listed some cards it can "stop/prevent". I never once blatantly said to anyone they're wrong, if you take that way then it is your own issue. People are so uptight about this game, my god it is a game and this is the internet not everything is gonna be perfect, no one here is getting paid (to my knowledge), this is not some YCS we all are in. It is a game pure and simple. Everyone needs to just relax and calm down, it is not that important, jeesh.
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It's pretty important. We know what people mean, sure, but the random Joe Schmoe looking for answers on Google and Stumbling across this thread doesn't know. If those mistakes don't get corrected when they crop up wrong information gets perpetuated, and in a case like this the difference is huge so that would be really bad.
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