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Old 05-09-2013, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default Blackwings ~ May 2013

My Blackwings deck has been lackluster against many meta decks lately and I need help to make it more competitive. I want a pure Blackwings build; so no BLS or Chaos tech.

Updated: 5/9/13

Monsters: 16
3 Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North
3 Blackwing - Bora the Spear
1 Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
3 Blackwing - Kalut the Moon Shadow
3 Blackwing - Shura the Blue Flame
1 Blackwing - Zephyros the Elite
1 Dark Armed Dragon
1 Spirit Reaper

Spells: 11
1 Allure of Darkness
1 Black Whirlwind
1 Dark Hole
2 Forbidden Lance
1 Heavy Storm
1 Monster Reborn
2 Mystical Space Typhoon
2 Pot of Duality

Traps: 13
2 Bottomless Trap Hole
2 Dimensional Prison
2 Fiendish Chain
3 Icarus Attack
2 Mirror Force
1 Solemn Judgment
1 Solemn Warning

Cards that I could tech in from my binder:
1 Blackwing - Kochi the Daybreak
3 Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn
2 Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Dark Eruption
1 Fiendish Chain
2 Genex Ally Crusher
1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness
1 Mind Control
1 Mist Valley Soldier
1 Mystical Space Typhoon
1 Shield Wing
1 Spirit Reaper
2 Starlight Road
2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
2 Torrential Tribute

Extra Deck:
I don't need help on the extra deck.

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Old 05-09-2013, 08:36 AM   #2
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this deck is a trap heavy deck

dont neet
-1 vayu
-1sirrocco
-1 gorz
-1 Mind Control

2 Mirror Force
2 fiendish chain
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:42 AM   #3
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this deck is a trap heavy deck

dont neet
-1 vayu
-1sirrocco
-1 gorz
-1 Mind Control

2 Mirror Force
2 fiendish chain
Thanks. I will test those fixes.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:53 AM   #4
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-1 Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North I think 3 is too many, often becoms a dead draw
-1 Dark Armed Dragon just not enough gravecontrol to use this, often a dead draw
-1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness Black Whirlwind doesn't like this

+2 Fiendish Chain Very good card and since u got it, use it!
+1 Forbidden Lance It's broken in this deck protects you from BTH, Mirror Froce, Fiendish Chain, CED, TT, Breakthrough Skill and DPrison. Also works good with Shura and all monsters to beat down bigger ones. I'd buy this if I were you.
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-1 Blackwing - Blizzard the Far North I think 3 is too many, often becoms a dead draw
-1 Dark Armed Dragon just not enough gravecontrol to use this, often a dead draw
-1 Gorz the Emissary of Darkness Black Whirlwind doesn't like this

+2 Fiendish Chain Very good card and since u got it, use it!
+1 Forbidden Lance It's broken in this deck protects you from BTH, Mirror Froce, Fiendish Chain, CED, TT, Breakthrough Skill and DPrison. Also works good with Shura and all monsters to beat down bigger ones. I'd buy this if I were you.
I have tried 3 Forbidden Lance and it has caused too many dead draws. Also, I just gave my 3rd one away and I'm not paying $20-30 to get another. What other replacement would you recommend?

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Old 05-09-2013, 09:08 AM   #6
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I'd drop Vayu and Sirocco for 2 Kochi as they offer much more versatile options. Vayu offers Catastor and maybe a free monster later. Kochi offers Stardust and Scrap if you Synchro and many rank 4's if you Xyz. Being able to drop a Chain, Cowboy, Corn or even just make Shockmaster easier is well worth it. And with Kalut at 3 you still maintain the level 5 options.
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I'd drop Vayu and Sirocco for 2 Kochi as they offer much more versatile options. Vayu offers Catastor and maybe a free monster later. Kochi offers Stardust and Scrap if you Synchro and many rank 4's if you Xyz. Being able to drop a Chain, Cowboy, Corn or even just make Shockmaster easier is well worth it. And with Kalut at 3 you still maintain the level 5 options.
I do have one spare Kochi. I might test him out again. I just hated top decking him with no other monsters in my hand. I have the same hatred towards Vayu too. Haha
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DAD is your win ticket. don't cut it.
I hope you are running Lavalval Chain in the Extra
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DAD is your win ticket. don't cut it.
I hope you are running Lavalval Chain in the Extra
I will run Lavalval Chain once people start trading it or selling it. They are valuing it much more than $20 at locals right now since it just came out recently.
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I do have one spare Kochi. I might test him out again. I just hated top decking him with no other monsters in my hand. I have the same hatred towards Vayu too. Haha
Yeah, Vayu sucks to draw into. The big difference is Vayu always sucks to draw. Kochi at least is a decent draw that you can use with a field. And is you are forced to top deck you at least have decent defence. Test it out over Vayu and see what you think.

Also do get a Chain. I've been using Chain a lot and getting DAD (BLS too) basically every game.
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Kochi is amazing, definitely run 2.
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Kochi is amazing, definitely run 2.
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I mean, I used to hate Kochi but ever since you, Acsel, got me into him, I've never looked back. He simple opens up so many versatile plays and he's not the worst topdeck in the world. Makes Shock Master plays ridiculously easy at times, level 8 synchros which are amazing, and I could go on about the endless possibilities of this card and what it brings to the table. Vayu is nice and all but it's just a horrible topdeck and the only build it should be used in is VayuTurbo.

Though, I'm curious, has anyone considered Kagetokage? It's fastly becoming my favorite tech because it opens up a lot of plays. It'd be really good in a rank 4 build though.
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I mean, I used to hate Kochi but ever since you, Acsel, got me into him, I've never looked back. He simple opens up so many versatile plays and he's not the worst topdeck in the world. Makes Shock Master plays ridiculously easy at times, level 8 synchros which are amazing, and I could go on about the endless possibilities of this card and what it brings to the table. Vayu is nice and all but it's just a horrible topdeck and the only build it should be used in is VayuTurbo.

Though, I'm curious, has anyone considered Kagetokage? It's fastly becoming my favorite tech because it opens up a lot of plays. It'd be really good in a rank 4 build though.
Kagetokage is nice but Yugioz don't like -1s
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Kagetokage is a +0 because you're losing no advantage.

Hand + field = overall advantage.

Plus he helps in making those turn 1 Shock Locks.
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Kagetokage is a +0 because you're losing no advantage.

Hand + field = overall advantage.

Plus he helps in making those turn 1 Shock Locks.
And what are you going to do?
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It's a -1 if you XYZ, which is what you will do :P
Same goes for Bora actually, but he doesn't rely on a Normal summon to be SSd, so he's better. And he is a Blackwing
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Oh you know... dat end game poke.
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I mean, I used to hate Kochi but ever since you, Acsel, got me into him, I've never looked back. He simple opens up so many versatile plays and he's not the worst topdeck in the world. Makes Shock Master plays ridiculously easy at times, level 8 synchros which are amazing, and I could go on about the endless possibilities of this card and what it brings to the table. Vayu is nice and all but it's just a horrible topdeck and the only build it should be used in is VayuTurbo.

Though, I'm curious, has anyone considered Kagetokage? It's fastly becoming my favorite tech because it opens up a lot of plays. It'd be really good in a rank 4 build though.
Great idea. I'll test Kagetokage online and see how well he works in Blackwings. I love spamming rank 4 monsters.
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I mean, I used to hate Kochi but ever since you, Acsel, got me into him, I've never looked back. He simple opens up so many versatile plays and he's not the worst topdeck in the world. Makes Shock Master plays ridiculously easy at times, level 8 synchros which are amazing, and I could go on about the endless possibilities of this card and what it brings to the table. Vayu is nice and all but it's just a horrible topdeck and the only build it should be used in is VayuTurbo.

Though, I'm curious, has anyone considered Kagetokage? It's fastly becoming my favorite tech because it opens up a lot of plays. It'd be really good in a rank 4 build though.
Nice to know me spamming every Blackwing thread with "needs moar Kochi" didn't go completely unnoticed. But yeah, versatility is so important. And as more rank 4's are released it just gets better.

I have thought about Kagetokage, never got around to testing it. I imagine it'd have quite decent usability.
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