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Old 12-19-2012, 12:45 PM   #1
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:54 PM   #2
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Deck looks good. I hope they reprint Harpie's Pet Dragon.

I was wondering can you check out my Ninja decks and let me know what you think.
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Deck looks good. I hope they reprint Harpie's Pet Dragon.

I was wondering can you check out my Ninja decks and let me know what you think.
I think I got many of the Harpie stuff because I always hold my cards and I'm pretty old in the game. xD

Yeah sure bro.
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The deck looks pretty solid, and it's good to see Konami introducing support for older archetypes (hopefully they will do something for D/E-HEROes too).

How about making space for BW Armor Master in the extra?
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The deck looks pretty solid, and it's good to see Konami introducing support for older archetypes (hopefully they will do something for D/E-HEROes too).

How about making space for BW Armor Master in the extra?
Thanks bro. E-Heroes don't need support to be honest. D-Heroes were once a top tier engine so i don't think they'll get more attention.

That sounds like a good option to have. I'm considering what to drop.
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How about dropping Acid Golem for Armor Master?

And tbh, good support for HEROes hasn't popped up for a while (I'm talking about main deck cards.)
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How about dropping Acid Golem for Armor Master?

And tbh, good support for HEROes hasn't popped up for a while (I'm talking about main deck cards.)
I like to have the option going for no. 30 late game to get rid of dangerous threats. Maybe I'll drop Pearl.

EDIT: Maybe because Heroes don't need more support? They have all the consistency and also they are fusion based, so I don't think why fusion support would be bad.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:24 PM   #8
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Which harpie build is gonna b the most consistent cause i have a feeling the ocg is gonna be very interesting with their builds.
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Rabbit builds can be explosive, but drawing vanillas sucks (especially since Harpie Lady is just a bad card to draw, and Harpie's Brother can't be used with anything).

Ninja versions are cool, but lack consistency (like Ninzektors).

This version is less prone to slow/dead hands, but since this deck doesn't have as many strong plays as others (just speculating right now) it seems more like a Tier 2-3 deck once released.
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Very interesting card quantities you have there, I shall test then come back to you with my amazing opinion.

But, before that, add a 3rd Icarus Attack.


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You are missing a spell, let me guess, Pot of Avarice?

Also, the Extra deck needs Diawolf the Terrorfang. 1-2.

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Old 12-19-2012, 05:34 PM   #11
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I'd like to see a Dark Simorgh for protection from backrow threats.
EDIT: nvm im stupid, i cant read.
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Might be worth you trying to fit in Phantom Beast Machine Drago-SAC

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Very interesting card quantities you have there, I shall test then come back to you with my amazing opinion.

But, before that, add a 3rd Icarus Attack.


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You are missing a spell, let me guess, Pot of Avarice?

Also, the Extra deck needs Diawolf the Terrorfang. 1-2.
3 Icarus Attack can be very cloggy. Diawolf is a potential 1 of, but Plover does its job better 90% of the time.
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Old 12-19-2012, 05:45 PM   #13
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My only suggestion is to take out 1 call for 1 more hysteria. Hysteria is so good as it can easily swarm 3 monsters.
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Which harpie build is gonna b the most consistent cause i have a feeling the ocg is gonna be very interesting with their builds.
No one knows yet. I prefer this because of Simorgh. It has it's explosive plays as every variant and also it has Simorgh. If I find out that this isn't that consistent I'll go for pure.

Yeah OCG always has the craziest of builds.

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Rabbit builds can be explosive, but drawing vanillas sucks (especially since Harpie Lady is just a bad card to draw, and Harpie's Brother can't be used with anything).

Ninja versions are cool, but lack consistency (like Ninzektors).

This version is less prone to slow/dead hands, but since this deck doesn't have as many strong plays as others (just speculating right now) it seems more like a Tier 2-3 deck once released.
Rabbit with Harpies sucks. Rabbit makes you lose the Harpy Lady from your deck, that means that you won't be able to make Elegant Egotist and Hysteric Sign plays which is bad. Also makes your targets for Channeler less and less. Also Brother doesn't work with any of the Harpie cards so why bother running him. I'd prefer Sabersaurus. But even then the deck would be horribly inconsistent.

Haven't seen Ninjas in action, but yes they seem cool.

So it doesn't have strong plays as others. Tell me what the other variants are capable of doing that mine isn't. I can even summon Simorgh from deck with Swallow's Nest and Channeler (if I have summon the Dragon).

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But, before that, add a 3rd Icarus Attack.


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Also, the Extra deck needs Diawolf the Terrorfang. 1-2.
Yeah let me know how it tests.

3rd Icarus Attack screams dead hands. There were times where I had no winged beasts in my hand. Imagine if I drew a dead Icarus.

Yeah that's Pot of Avarice.

Not really, I find Plover to work way better.

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I'd like to see a Dark Simorgh for protection from backrow threats.
EDIT: nvm im stupid, i cant read.
Lol yeah the deck is built around Simorgh. xD

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3 Icarus Attack can be very cloggy. Diawolf is a potential 1 of, but Plover does its job better 90% of the time.
Yeah of course I'll try to fit it in, but since DN didn't have it I forgot to include it because I'm testing it there.

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Kuriboh[/ygocard];26395066]My only suggestion is to take out 1 call for 1 more hysteria. Hysteria is so good as it can easily swarm 3 monsters.
I don't like the fact that party makes me discard 1 card. Also my grave is a mess. I usually remove my monsters for Simorgh or Return them with PoA and Quill. 1 Hysteria late game can save me as it has happened many times but 2 are dead in this kind of deck. I'm telling you this out of experience. I was running 2 and 1 was always dead.

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Changing a little the build since I found monk wasn't that good:

-2 Monk
-1 Simorgh (obvious change now that I'll have less dark targets)
-1 Avarice (was dead many times and I prefer the recyclability Quill gives)
-1 Hunting Ground (with Falcon added I don't have to worry that much)
-3 Solemns (needed space for chains and zones)
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+3 Falcon
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+2 Safe Zone
+2 Fiendish Chain
+3 Icarus Attack (now with more winged-beasts Icarus deserves the third spot)
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Dude, by other decks, I didn't mean other Harpie variants. I meant other decks in the current and future meta. By the time the Harpie support is released the will also be Fire Kings, Fire Fists, and whatever wasn't hurt by the March banlist.
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So the effects are still unconfirmed...
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Dude, by other decks, I didn't mean other Harpie variants. I meant other decks in the current and future meta. By the time the Harpie support is released the will also be Fire Kings, Fire Fists, and whatever wasn't hurt by the March banlist.
Oh I thought you implied that the build is bad. Well the deck has some outs and when played right it can work really well. Terrible hands can happen due to consistency issues. Fire Kings are inconsistent as well and Fire Fists will dominate in March's format and then they will be butchered (I mean Fire Fists with Chicken and Chouten).

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Yeah, so?
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Oh I thought you implied that the build is bad. Well the deck has some outs and when played right it can work really well. Terrible hands can happen due to consistency issues. Fire Kings are inconsistent as well and Fire Fists will dominate in March's format and then they will be butchered (I mean Fire Fists with Chicken and Chouten).



Yeah, so?
I don't see the point in posting a deck on cards effects that may change granted they are not going to change by much but still just find it pointless people giving advice on cards that aren't confirmed. Your deck could look different once the cards are confirmed that is all.
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I don't see the point in posting a deck on cards effects that may change granted they are not going to change by much but still just find it pointless people giving advice on cards that aren't confirmed. Your deck could look different once the cards are confirmed that is all.
If it does then I'll change it accordingly. Also most effects posted by Eva end up being the correct ones.
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If you don't get Hysteric Sign then Harpies are still is pretty poor. Without getting Hysteric off, Harpie Channeler is a two card rank 7 which isn't that good relative to the other cards kicking about. I think you really really need to get Hysteric Sign off every game to ensure decent plays. So I'd suggest the following to help ensure Hysteric sign goes off more often:

Pot of duality, Upstart Goblin or 1 Magical Hats.
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If you don't get Hysteric Sign then Harpies are still is pretty poor. Without getting Hysteric off, Harpie Channeler is a two card rank 7 which isn't that good relative to the other cards kicking about. I think you really really need to get Hysteric Sign off every game to ensure decent plays. So I'd suggest the following to help ensure Hysteric sign goes off more often:

Pot of Duality, Upstart Goblin or 1 Magical Hats.
Haven't thought of Magical Hats.

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That's genius!!!
Well that's funny I posted it as a suggestion in the single card section and most the "Good" players here flamed me for being bad. I still see chanler as not so good. It on its own does not create advantage, sign creates the advantage, Channler is just a decent way to use the hand advantage. Top priority for harpies players must be get sign off.

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I kinda see an issue with that; you might lose card advantage due to having to discard in the end phase (I'm guessing you'd set 2 Signs, meaning you'd add 6 cards, so unless you set/play everything else, you would lose some card advantage.)
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I kinda see an issue with that; you might lose card advantage due to having to discard in the end phase (I'm guessing you'd set 2 Signs, meaning you'd add 6 cards, so unless you set/play everything else, you would lose some card advantage.)

It would be activing in the opponents end phase so you won't have a hand limit check. Sadly you can only use 1 sign a turn so it would be a + 2 (or + 3 of you decided to use other cards like Geartown). But don't just think of it in terms of pluses. It's a search 3 not an Ojamagic style + 3. The search allows you to set up great plays next turn.
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Well that's funny I posted it as a suggestion in the single card section and most the "Good" players here flamed me for being bad. I still see chanler as not so good. It on its own does not create advantage, sign creates the advantage, Channler is just a decent way to use the hand advantage. Top priority for harpies players must be get sign off.

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->Channeler eff special summoning Dragon (0)
-> Xyz into Big Eye (-1)
-> Big Eye stealing a monster (+2)
That's a total of +1 in terms of advantage.

Also you can go into the plane rank 7 which is a very strong monster that will survive for 1-2 turns by protecting itself from the tokens.

There have been many duels where I have won without setting off Sign. It's great to have that +2 but it's not like the deck is unplayble without it.

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I kinda see an issue with that; you might lose card advantage due to having to discard in the end phase (I'm guessing you'd set 2 Signs, meaning you'd add 6 cards, so unless you set/play everything else, you would lose some card advantage.)
You can only get that +2/3 one Sign gives you.
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