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Old 12-06-2012, 10:03 PM   #1
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why is this card still eight dollars, i know to you guys thats not much but to me i have a mediocre binder and have trouble getting these and the copy i had was stolen, so i wanna know why cards like this that don't see any play (from what i've seen) are more expensive then cards like tour guide from bp and stuff like that, i'm going off of what people here value tgu and its upwards of seven for the bp and about the same for starfoil. but its just a question and im sure there is other cards like this
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Old 12-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #2
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This is actually a GOOD card, and if someone is making Watts then this is STAPLE!!!

Plus Wattgiraffe's effect is actually quite handy, it's unlucky to miss out on going into quite a lot of Decks... In some instances.
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Wattgirraffe is meh.
It has a cool effect, but is actually pretty overrated in my findings. It's good because it's attack for watts, that's about it now, or in a deck that needs protection before exploding so they poke with wattgirraffe. Wattpheasant is useful because it can banish an xyz. Most of the time if people have cards to stop wattgirraffe they will be used.

I got one off of my friend for some pretty dirt commons though, and just because i have it I will put it in my watts. c:
Wouldn't buy it though.

And to answer OP, these cards just weren't printed in mass amounts and hold some collective value.
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oh that makes sense then, because i was always wondering that because it's not all that used of a card
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I'm voting for a reprint.
Wattgiraffe as a secret and Cobra and Pheasant as supers.
Make it happen konami.
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Wattgiraffe as a secret and Cobra and Pheasant as supers.
Make it happen konami.
Make everything secret and make Photon Lead an ultra.
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Wattgiraffe laughs at Gorz like a madman. And can be trollzy too. Attack directly with it and then go super crazy MP2 without worrying about being interpreted by Solemns and the likes.
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yeah, i wish we could see love for watts.. i have a watt build thats super consistant and light thunder already have a good amount of support and watts are hardly hurt by banlist, and probably will not get hurt anytime soon by it.
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Giraffe lets you pull off some fun plays. For example, poking directly, then dropping removal on Shi En, Stardust or Laggia. Or avoiding cards like Starlight Road or Forbidden Lance and dropping blind MST's without fear.

However, I'd imagine the price is purely due to hype from Thunder Seahorse. Doesn't matter if the deck is good or not or whether it will see any competitive play, hype will usually take a month or two at least to die down.
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Wattgiraffe once it successfully direct attacks acts like a Cold Wave, and Doomcaliber Knight on your opponent - instant shutdown. It also allows you to go into big plays

Wattcube + Urgent Tuning + Limit Reverse = Ancient Sacred Wyvern potential game even easier because watt decks tend to be lockdown
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Wattgiraffe laughs at Gorz like a madman
Assuming you're attacking into an empty field, Wattgiraffe is only laughing until Gorz gets summoned. SEGOC can be a cruel mistress sometimes.
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A 1200 direct damage is actually really high.
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Assuming you're attacking into an empty field, Wattgiraffe is only laughing until Gorz gets summoned. SEGOC can be a cruel mistress sometimes.
Could of sworn that effect was Continuous and not Trigger. Looks like I was wrong on that part.
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that's the problem with non PSCT cards =/ never know how their effects work
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so busted in watts with thunder seahorse. deck can be tier 1 now
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i guess all we can do is hope.
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Assuming you're attacking into an empty field, Wattgiraffe is only laughing until Gorz gets summoned. SEGOC can be a cruel mistress sometimes.
Priority is a wonderful thing.

I'll explain how this works in detail because wynaut.

The attacker has priority, therefore Giraffe goes CL2. Then the opponent has priority to chain their Gorz in hand.

And this is why anyone who said "priority is gone" should be slapped.
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Priority is a wonderful thing.

I'll explain how this works in detail because wynaut.

The attacker has priority, therefore Giraffe goes CL2. Then the opponent has priority to chain their Gorz in hand.

And this is why anyone who said "priority is gone" should be slapped.
what the hell has priority to do with it. its all about segoc rules.
Wattgiraffe is mandatory and gorz is optional, therefore Wattgiraffe is CL1 and gorz is CL2.
gorz resolves first and gets summoned, then Wattgiraffe resolves, then the token wont be special summoned as wattgiraffes effect is already applied preventing gorz´s effect from activating.
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It's got nothing to do with either of those things.
It doesn't matter if Giraffe resolved before Gorz as Gorz would have already activated.
Their effects activate at the same time, and they just go and do.
It's also called Fast Effects and Timing now, not Priority.
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what the hell has priority to do with it. its all about segoc rules.
Wattgiraffe is mandatory and gorz is optional, therefore Wattgiraffe is CL1 and gorz is CL2.
gorz resolves first and gets summoned, then Wattgiraffe resolves, then the token wont be special summoned as wattgiraffes effect is already applied preventing gorz´s effect from activating.
Because priority puts Wattgiraffe first because it's the turn player using it. SEGOC runs off of priority.

It a Mystic Tomato kills another, the turn player's Tomato goes CL1 because of priority. That's what priority is: the turn player having the ability to activate cards before the opponent (hence the name).

But yes, forgot the fact that Giraffe was mandatory. And yes, you are right.
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Because Gorz the Emissary of Darkness effect apply's after Damage calculation it should be able to get onto the field before Wattgiraffe can Negate it, much as is the case if you are attacked directly with Spirit Reaper and have a Gorz in your hand.

Spirit Reaper attacks you directly, you take the damage yet before Spirit Reaper's effect can (potentially) discard Gorz it CAN (Gorz) be Special Summoned via it's own effect.

I suspect that the ruling would go the same way or:

Attack with Wattgiraffe, inflict 1200 Damage to your opponent, Wattgiraffe's effect activates but before it can Gorz the Emissary of Darkness is able to be summoned. However then that the Gorz "Token" cannot be Special Summoned as Wattgiraffe's effect will then be applied by that time.

As for the Mystic Tomato VS Mystic Tomato scenario, this is how it plays out Valafar.

I attack your Mystic Tomato with my Mystic Tomato, although both monsters die at the same time mine goes to the Graveyard first due to the fact that I was the turn player. My Mystic Tomato activates first (Chain Link 1) then your Mystic Tomato goes to the Graveyard, (Chain Link 2) the Chain resolves backwards, you Special Summon a Monster from your Deck and after doing so I Special Summon 1 Monster from my Deck.

When Recruiter type monsters where the "Hot" thing if you attacked an opponents Shining Angel with your Mystic Tomato it was possible that you may not get to summon a monster with Mystic Tomato's effect, this was due to the fact that your opponent could Special Summon Jowgen the Spiritualist FIRST (since they were Chain Link 2) and thus "C**k" block your summon!!!

Chains resolve backwards and thus Chain Link 2 resolves before Chain Link 1 and Chain Link 3 resolves before Chain Link 2 and so forth.
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Because Gorz the Emissary of Darkness effect apply's after Damage calculation it should be able to get onto the field before Wattgiraffe can Negate it, much as is the case if you are attacked directly with Spirit Reaper and have a Gorz in your hand.

Spirit Reaper attacks you directly, you take the damage yet before Spirit Reaper's effect can (potentially) discard Gorz it CAN (Gorz) be Special Summoned via it's own effect.

I suspect that the ruling would go the same way or:

Attack with Wattgiraffe, inflict 1200 Damage to your opponent, Wattgiraffe's effect activates but before it can Gorz the Emissary of Darkness is able to be summoned. However then that the Gorz "Token" cannot be Special Summoned as Wattgiraffe's effect will then be applied by that time.

As for the Mystic Tomato VS Mystic Tomato scenario, this is how it plays out Valafar.

I attack your Mystic Tomato with my Mystic Tomato, although both monsters die at the same time mine goes to the Graveyard first due to the fact that I was the turn player. My Mystic Tomato activates first (Chain Link 1) then your Mystic Tomato goes to the Graveyard, (Chain Link 2) the Chain resolves backwards, you Special Summon a Monster from your Deck and after doing so I Special Summon 1 Monster from my Deck.

When Recruiter type monsters where the "Hot" thing if you attacked an opponents Shining Angel with your Mystic Tomato it was possible that you may not get to summon a monster with Mystic Tomato's effect, this was due to the fact that your opponent could Special Summon Jowgen the Spiritualist FIRST (since they were Chain Link 2) and thus "C**k" block your summon!!!

Chains resolve backwards and thus Chain Link 2 resolves before Chain Link 1 and Chain Link 3 resolves before Chain Link 2 and so forth.
Yes. Being the turn player means you have priority on your Mystic Tomato. -.-

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Priority

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Yes. Being the turn player means you have priority on your Mystic Tomato. -.-

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Priority

According to this, it got renamed.

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I just read your post then again and realised that it actually already made sense!!!

Oh well, hopefully at least any "Newbie" type people will learn something from my essay...

I used to love... AND hate the Shining Angel VS Mystic Tomato scenario especially because Jowgen the Spiritualist tended to be more of a Side Deck card and thus not expected...

Stuffing up an opponent when they attacked your Shining Angel with their Mystic Tomato was always cause for a good laugh because generally you would use Mystic Tomato to Recruit Sangan or Witch of the Black Forest to gain some fresh advantage during your next turn, Jowgen getting to the field first stuffed that up... The first REAL "Stun" tactic!!!
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The problem with Wattgiraffe is that it doesn't have sunglasses on. And Wattcobra doesn't have a cape.

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I second and third this. But cobra deserves ultra treatment.
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I second and third this. But cobra deserves ultra treatment.
Not a huge fan of ultras honestly, but on LIGHT monsters it would work.

They honestly need to just do the whole lot like they did Crystal Beasts.
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