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Old 11-23-2012, 04:53 PM   #1
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out of these 2 loved cards which is the better to run in a deck or should u run BOM and 2 Forbidden Lance or just one of them?
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:04 PM   #2
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I'd do one of both if possible. But 2 Lances is preferable. Always.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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i meant should i run bom n 2 fl or go bom or 2 fl.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:18 PM   #4
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i meant should i run bom n 2 fl or go bom or 2 fl.
Book is dependent on the speed of the deck. Faster decks can better use Lance. I'll go out on a limb and assume this is for Chaos Dragons, which is a fast deck. Book is up to your discretion. It's not necessary at all, but it's a good disruption card in a deck with few disruption options. Same for Lance, but Lance can also stop T Tribs from hurting your more important stuff (DAD, BLS, Dr. Red, etc)

Go with a pair of Lances. Playtest Book of Moon if you like the card or think you can make it useful (chaining it to Veiler on Ryko, potentially doubling your mill speed for example)
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:23 PM   #5
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i was thinking move MST to side and run BOM 3 FL.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:25 PM   #6
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i was thinking move MST to side and run BOM 3 FL.
Why aren't you talking to the CD Strategy guide people about this? They'll know more about the deck than me.
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im asking general ideas.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:41 PM   #8
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I like dress in this format because of atlanteans. I think soon dress may be the way to go because monster destruction seems to be getting more common (Atanteans, Fire Fists, Flame kings)
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:45 PM   #9
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I've been playtesting two lances alongside two MSTs (in Chaos Dragons) and have been liking the results so far. It helps add some assurance to your plays with your big monsters, while being able to weaken your opponent's big monsters. More than anything, it means you will hit that Bottomless etc, where a blind MST may miss.

Having the MSTs just adds to backrow removal.

As for Book of Moon, I really like it, but found it wasn't really working as well as the Lances in the deck. It's versatile, but in a different way. If I had the room to main it as well, I would. At the moment it's in the side deck to be sided in if I face Agents.
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I like dress in this format because of atlanteans. I think soon dress may be the way to go because monster destruction seems to be getting more common (Atanteans, Fire Fists, Flame kings)
Read Safe Zone rulings, then come back.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:15 PM   #11
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Read Safe Zone rulings, then come back.
READ Forbidden dress, then come back


it protects targeting, AND destruction
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:24 PM   #12
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READ Forbidden dress, then come back

it protects targeting, AND destruction
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it protects targeting, AND destruction
Because Safe Zone totally doesn't do the same thing as Dress and doesn't have rulings about not protecting cards already targeted if chained to said effect.

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Thanks, I forgot about that thread.


On the original topic though, I'd try to use both. If there isn't enough space for both, go with Lance. I would still run at least one MST though.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:29 PM   #14
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I use 2 Lance + 1 BoM
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Because Safe Zone totally doesn't do the same thing as Dress and doesn't have rulings about not protecting cards already targeted if chained to said effect.

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It's simple. Dress and Safe Zone cannot be chained to protect from stuff like BLS, and Compulsory Evacuation Device. However none of those were mentioned in the post you quoted.

The post you quoted said that dress protects against atlanteans, which is true, because they destroy, and dress protects against all destruction effects, targeting or not. He also mentioned fire king and flaming fist destruction abilities, which also is protected from by dress.
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Whoops, seems I was too caught up in the targeting part, my bad.

Even so, Dress still only has a limited niche when it comes to those monster effects and nukes, where Lance still encompasses all S/T effects, targeting non-destruction or otherwise.

Point being, I see D-Prison and Compulsory much more than I see Heavy Infantry and the Fire Fist that destroys monsters (Yushi?)
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:11 AM   #17
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I like dress in this format because of atlanteans. I think soon dress may be the way to go because monster destruction seems to be getting more common (Atanteans, Fire Fists, Flame kings)
Unless you're Psychic, Dress isn't really great for that.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:06 AM   #18
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Dress and Lance are actually more equal then people realize.

D-prison and compulsory are the only main common cards that get around dress but not lance, while the individual cards that dress stops that lance doesnt arent as common as compulsory/d-prison, but they are more numerous, so overall i'd say its more a matter of preference.

the difference of 600 attack to 800 attack drop is also a pretty noticeable difference, sometimes better, sometimes worse depending on how often you use it offensively or defensively

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Old 11-24-2012, 06:16 AM   #19
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in hero beat: lance to protect tkro, and because shining is really the only way to win
in bbb: bom cause you fear tkro, and xyz are really important, and you cannot atk with a lance'd xyz

so really depends on the deck. try both then cut the one you don't need
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D-prison and compulsory are the only main common cards that get around dress but not lance
Activating Dress in advance stops D-Prison, though.
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Dress isn't that good overall compared to Lance :/
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Activating Dress in advance stops D-Prison, though.
Why you quote me when I didn't say that?
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Activating Dress in advance stops D-Prison, though.
Yes, but then they can just not use their D-Prison and you're down a card. Unless you really needed a particular attack to go through, I don't see why you'd do this. OT: it depends on your deck and how badly it gets pushed around by Thunder King. Book usually finds its way into my decks before Lance does for that reason.
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i run 3 lance and 1 book. id run 3 mst 3 book and 3 lance if i could. spells ftw
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I run 1 BoM. I never really liked lance but eh.
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