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Old 08-18-2012, 09:03 PM   #1
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Default The real reaon why Future Fusion was banned!

Future Fusion is broken but Konami didn't ban it because of chaos dragons. They actually preemptively hit it because the archetype called Heraldic/Medallions.

Future Fusion:
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http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Heraldic_Beast_Aberconway
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Then play this:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/High_Medallion_Arts

Oh and look I get to add another card to my hand.

So now we cannot say that all that Konami cares about it money.
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Old 08-18-2012, 09:11 PM   #2
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Is heraldic like the drunk version of hieratic or something? Or are they completely unrelated, like herald... of an ic? Idk.
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Combo seems busted, but is heraldic and hieratic different?
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Combo seems busted, but is heraldic and hieratic different?
They better be. If they aren't, Ill be pissed.
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Doesn't look consistent at all. First you must have a Future Fusion in hand, which was at only 1, while 3 of your Aberconway's remained in the deck, which at 3 is quite a feat. Then you also need to have a High Medallion Arts in hand.

It's a nice combo, but not that easy to pull off. And quite frankly, it doesn't benefit much. You get a Heraldic Beast in hand and an Xyz on the field for 2 cards, so...
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Doesn't look consistent at all. First you must have a Future Fusion in hand, which was at only 1, while 3 of your Aberconway's remained in the deck, which at 3 is quite a feat. Then you also need to have a High Medallion Arts in hand.

It's a nice combo, but not that easy to pull off. And quite frankly, it doesn't benefit much. You get a Heraldic Beast in hand and an Xyz on the field for 2 cards, so...
Nothing ever looks consistent to pojo because were all ignorant. Just like how everyone said Chaos Dragons would never become a thing and oh look they just happened. But right they are SO inconsistent with their high levels and such.

Can it please.
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Nothing ever looks consistent to pojo because were all ignorant. Just like how everyone said Chaos Dragons would never become a thing and oh look they just happened. But right they are SO inconsistent with their high levels and such.

Can it please.
Did someone actually said Chaos Dragons were inconsistent? It would only take one look at Chaos Dragons to understand where their consistency comes from.

This combo, on the other hand, is not nearly as busted as it seems. You spend 2 cards to get 2, what's so busted about that?
It's not like Chaos Dragons which can at least +2 off Future Fusion alone.
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What card you add to your hand? If you use Heraldic Beast eff you banish 1 copy to add another copy so you only leave 1 in the graveyard, making Medallion dead. Except you have another Heraldic monster in the grave previously then yeah.

Anyway you are drunk if you think this combo makes Future Fusion banworthy
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Actually, scratch one thing I said earlier. You spend 1 card and get 2.
Shouldn't have made that banlist drinking game...
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Konami intentionally tried to make Heraldics as broken as they possibly could, so that they would have a good anime show. They are unrelated to hieratics, at least as far as I can tell.
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Future Fusion is broken but Konami didn't ban it because of chaos dragons. They actually preemptively hit it because the archetype called Heraldic/Medallions.

Future Fusion:
3 of these
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Heraldic_Beast_Aberconway
+ 2 other dragons

Then play this:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/High_Medallion_Arts

Oh and look I get to add another card to my hand.

So now we cannot say that all that Konami cares about it money.
Why can't we? It's basic business for them, do as much to ******* with us as possible, but toe the line where the game would become unplayable. If the game is unplayable, we stop spending money. It's like a r**ist using a condom - he wants to hurt his victim, but he doesn't want to leave himself open to being hurt as well by leaving evidence. The once-in-a-blue-moon bannings that are 'for the good of the game' are konami's condom.
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What card you add to your hand? If you use Heraldic Beast eff you banish 1 copy to add another copy so you only leave 1 in the graveyard, making Medallion dead. Except you have another Heraldic monster in the grave previously then yeah.

Anyway you are drunk if you think this combo makes Future Fusion banworthy
When did he say anything about using the effect of the card in Grave?

@ LifeisaCarnival:

You were talking to some incredibly terrible players, even by Poojo standards, to have had that as a "consistant" line of thinking about Chaos Dragons, that deck was EASY to see coming.
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When did he say anything about using the effect of the card in Grave?

@ LifeisaCarnival:

You were talking to some incredibly terrible players, even by Poojo standards, to have had that as a "consistant" line of thinking about Chaos Dragons, that deck was EASY to see coming.
When he said he netted a card to the hand from the combo. The only part of this that could add a card to the hand is the dragon's effect in the yard.
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When he said he netted a card to the hand from the combo. The only part of this that could add a card to the hand is the dragon's effect in the yard.
Ah, understood.

I missed that part, I usually don't do that, my mistake, :/
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When did he say anything about using the effect of the card in Grave?

@ LifeisaCarnival:

You were talking to some incredibly terrible players, even by Poojo standards, to have had that as a "consistant" line of thinking about Chaos Dragons, that deck was EASY to see coming.
So explain how is he adding a card to his hand with that combo?
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So explain how is he adding a card to his hand with that combo?
That issue has already been addressed, youngling.

Look at the post two above your own.
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So explain how is he adding a card to his hand with that combo?
f this card is in your Graveyard: You can banish 1 "Heraldic Beast Aberconway" from your Graveyard, except this card, to target 1 "Heraldic Beast" monster in your Graveyard; add that target to the hand. The effect of "Heraldic Beast Aberconway" can only be activated once per turn.
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f this card is in your Graveyard: You can banish 1 "Heraldic Beast Aberconway" from your Graveyard, except this card, to target 1 "Heraldic Beast" monster in your Graveyard; add that target to the hand. The effect of "Heraldic Beast Aberconway" can only be activated once per turn.
They're talking about how you have two of them for the Spell Card when one is in your Hand and another banished, leaving one in your Graveyard.
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Please, OP, be trolling. Please. This is stupidly inconsistent, stupidly terrible, and stupid.

also, Heraldics =/= Hieratics

Tron uses Heraldic Beasts. They only have 2 monsters and bad support out, though. Until the next set. Still, they're a ZEXAL deck. They focus on Xyzing out good cards (read as: cards exactly needed to counter what Yuma has out)
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It doesn't even look like a Hieratic you tards.
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Future Fusion was Painful Choice that's why it got banned
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That issue has already been addressed, youngling.

Look at the post two above your own.
I couldnt, i posted 1 minute after you

Anyway the only way to add one card with that eff and still be able to play the spell afterwards is to have another Heraldic monster (nowadays, the only other non-extra deck monster the archetype has besides the dragon) in the grave from before
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Hieratic and Heraldic are indeed different archetypes
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As soon as i saw Future Fusion banned, i immediately assumed it was a preemptive hit on heraldic beasts. They're so good that they're terrible.
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Doesn't look consistent at all. First you must have a Future Fusion in hand, which was at only 1, while 3 of your Aberconway's remained in the deck, which at 3 is quite a feat. Then you also need to have a High Medallion Arts in hand.

It's a nice combo, but not that easy to pull off. And quite frankly, it doesn't benefit much. You get a Heraldic Beast in hand and an Xyz on the field for 2 cards, so...
Add Dragunity and their field spell to the mix and you are good to go!

http://unknown-persona.blogspot.gr/2...dragunity.html

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