Dino Rabbit - September 2012

Relating · 08-13-2012, 09:25 PM

http://i.imgur.com/0lgIY.png

I need some help in deciding upon a few things.

1.) Thoughts on the side deck?

2.) Thoughts on the trap lineup? I want to drop the Fiendish Chain but am not a fan of a 2nd Compulsory/2nd Torrential or Mirror Force. Chain is good vs Wind Ups, Samurai, and Geargia. However, it sucks vs Dark World(most played IMO) and heros.

3.) Any other improvements you folks can suggest to me.

Thanks to all that post, no troll posts, and please back up your thoughts with rational explanation/example(s) of scenarios, and proper logic.

xTenraix · 08-13-2012, 09:44 PM

Hm.. No Pot of Duality?

Relating · 08-13-2012, 10:07 PM

I'd consider testing the pair of them. Suggestions on what to drop?

Einsam_Delphin · 08-13-2012, 10:48 PM

Triple Veiler main won't be necessary under that new list. Also how about them Jurrac Guaibas?

Icebound · 08-13-2012, 10:50 PM

^ Definitely play Guaibas

PirateZach · 08-13-2012, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Einsam_Delphin

Triple Veiler main won't be necessary under that new list. Also how about them Jurrac Guaibas?

I think the veiler is in there for BLS food. Personally I don't think he needs tour bus and I don't like the double reaper mained.

So keeping that in mind,
-2 Spirit Reaper
-1 Tour bus
-1 Mirror Force
-1 MST

+3 Guaiba
+2 Duality

Also, I think you should drop Bls, and in turn drop a veiler. In their place you could put Mirror Force back in (At two, this is a September build right?) Or put in one Mirror Force and a Forbidden Lance.

th3m3rc · 08-13-2012, 10:58 PM

Use the following take out what you see fit

Guaiba x3
Hanzo x3
ROTA x1
Super Transformation x2-3
Call Of The Haunted if you want

xTenraix · 08-13-2012, 11:00 PM

Why would he use a Ninja build?...

theenemy · 08-13-2012, 11:02 PM

need gold sarc for maximum searching and versatility. also put in a compulsory some where. this meta you will need great flexibility

Azure_Blade13 · 08-13-2012, 11:02 PM

whats the ban list everyone keeps talking about?

xTenraix · 08-13-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by theenemy

need gold sarc for maximum searching and versatility. also put in a compulsory some where. this meta you will need great flexibility

This is for the September format, not the format we're in currently. Besides, Gold Sarcophagus is really slow so it's not worth using.

th3m3rc · 08-13-2012, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xTenraix

Why would he use a Ninja build?...

Cause it's more Consistant, here it is with 42 cards take out a rabbit and a tour guide.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1069931

Additional Comment:

And add a tour bus....maybe chuck another card out so your at 40

PirateZach · 08-13-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xTenraix

This is for the September format, not the format we're in currently. Besides, Gold Sarcophagus is really slow so it's not worth using.

Its good with leviar

RefreshingCocaCola · 08-13-2012, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure_Blade13

whats the ban list everyone keeps talking about?

Saitoshi's 99% confirmed list. Most yugitubers agree on it, but we'll never know till sept.

xTenraix · 08-13-2012, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PirateZach

Its good with leviar

It's situational because the consistency of Dino Rabbit has been hit, and you're not getting your combo pieces as fast. (TGU and Rescue Rabbit)

iRenzo · 08-14-2012, 03:04 AM

Do not run a third Fiend monster. It creates inconsistency. You only get Tour guides effect once. You can either search Sangan or go for leviair plays. Deal with it. Also 3 Effect Veiler won't be needed next format. It wasn't even needed for Rabbit this format. You also definately need 3 Jurrac Guiba to make dropping Evolzars more consistent. I'd also add Neo-Spacian Grand Mole to deal with big monsters.

tldr;
-1 Tour Bus from the underworld
-3 Effect Veiler
+3 Jurrac Guiba
+1 Neo Spaciann grand mole

T-REX · 08-14-2012, 06:24 AM

I would drop the 2 Dimensional Prison and swap them with Pot of Duality.

Otherwise it looks pretty good to me and it shouldn't really have any consistency issues, it may possibly be a little slower than before but otherwise it's about right.

Relating · 08-14-2012, 06:57 AM

Einsam_Delphin: Yes, I'll try out the Guibas.

PirateZach: Will test a few of those, thanks.

iRenzo: I prefer two. Was just testing 3 for Spellbooks and all that.

T-REX: Not dropping the prisons, will find something else for the dualitys.

Shadows89 · 08-14-2012, 08:30 AM

I like where you're going with your list. Here's mine for reference (haven't really had a chance to test anything, a bit busy):

3x Guiaba
2x Rabbit
2x Tour Guide
1x Sagan
1x Gorz
2x Veiler
3x Saber
3x Kaba

3x MST
3x Lance
1x Heavy
1x Dark Hole
1x Monster Reborn
1x Avarice
1x Book of Moon
2x Soul Taker

2x Warning
2x D-prison
2x Torrential
2x Compulsory
1x Starlight
1x Judgment
1x Mirror Force

Few quick notes (I haven't fixed my list yet):

- If the list floating around is the correct list, then I think we'll have to worry about:

* Mirror match
* Heroes
* Gadgets
* Six Sam

Maybe a few others; With this in mind, I think we've gotten to a point of where 3 mained veilers isn't needed anymore. Personally, I won't main any less than 2 copies of it, but that's just me. Moving on, we need to ensure we can get past/over their big monsters (and between the decks listed above, we have our work cut out for us).

I know I need to find room for 2 Bottomless, but looking past that, maybe even taking some help from the past, and maining a single copy of Snowman Eater or Spirit Reaper is in order. That's all I really have for now... Ooh a few quick notes:

* I've tested the Hanzo build quite a bit; I'm not really a fan of it.
* While we may have lost SOME consistency, I have yet to really find any problems going to 2 rabbits, etc. I did give Gold Sarc the old college try, but came to the conclusion, like many others, that it's a tad too slow. However it did come in handy, so I'd test it if I were you.

Just my 2 cents - I'll keep my list updated so we can compare if you'd like. I plan on playing Rabbit at our regional here - believe it's Sept. 1.

th3m3rc · 08-14-2012, 09:40 AM

Why are you guys not using the HANZO/SUPER TRANSFORMATION engine!!!

PirateZach · 08-14-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iRenzo

tldr;
-1 Tour Bus from the underworld
-3 Effect Veiler
+3 Jurrac Guiba
+1 Neo Spaciann grand mole

With those changes why not just drop BLS too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by th3m3rc

Why are you guys not using the HANZO/SUPER TRANSFORMATION engine!!!

If he wanted to run Hanzo in his deck then he would have made the title of the deck Hanzo rabbit.

darklordbob · 08-14-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by th3m3rc

Why are you guys not using the HANZO/SUPER TRANSFORMATION engine!!!

Deck that has topped consistently vs deck that hasn't done anything?

I have no idea why.

xTenraix · 08-14-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by th3m3rc

Why are you guys not using the HANZO/SUPER TRANSFORMATION engine!!!

Maybe because it sucks ****? Kthnx.

Acid Rain Ninja · 08-14-2012, 12:09 PM

doesnt gold sarc work with leviair?

PirateZach · 08-14-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark World Ninja

doesnt gold sarc work with leviair?

I already said that lol. But I think he is right, it is kind-of slow.