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Old 07-23-2012, 10:42 AM   #26
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You Know, I've Always Wondered;

If You Go Back In Time, Do Or Change Something, Then When I Go Back To Future, The Future Has Changed, But, What Happens To People Which I Left In My Original Time Line/Present.

For Example - It Is 2012, I And My Friend Can't Decide Who Will Use Time Machine To Kill Hitler, But In The End, It's Me. So I Say Goodbye And Go Back In Time, I Kill Hitler And Go Back To Future 2012. Here, In Current Present, It Is Know That Hitler Was Murdered. But, Nothing Has Changed In Time Which I Left When I First Used Time Machine.

Essentially, You Cant Really Change Anything, You Only Change Time Lines, Or Dimensions Or Whatever They're Called. However, I Think That Traveling To Future In This Case Could Be Actually Possible.
In terms of time machines, they say that the farthest you can go back in time, is to the point when you first activated the time machine. The time machine provides a portal where you can go back to up to that specific moment from when you activated the time machine. It was on some Stephen Hawkings documentary.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:43 AM   #27
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You Know, I've Always Wondered;

If You Go Back In Time, Do Or Change Something, Then When I Go Back To Future, The Future Has Changed, But, What Happens To People Which I Left In My Original Time Line/Present.

For Example - It Is 2012, I And My Friend Can't Decide Who Will Use Time Machine To Kill Hitler, But In The End, It's Me. So I Say Goodbye And Go Back In Time, I Kill Hitler And Go Back To Future 2012. Here, In Current Present, It Is Known That Hitler Was Murdered. But, Nothing Has Changed In Time Which I Left When I First Used Time Machine.

Essentially, You Cant Really Change Anything, You Only Change Time Lines, Or Dimensions Or Whatever They're Called. However, I Think That Traveling To Future In This Case Could Be Actually Possible.
Reverse time travel is impossible anyway. Scientists determined that ages ago.
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Old 07-23-2012, 10:56 AM   #28
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Correct Me If I'm Wrong, But Time Travel To Future Is Actually Possible If You're Next To Something Super Massive, Like Black Hole, Because In It's "Radius" Time "Passes" Slower Than Outside Of If Where Time Would Pass Faster, Or Something Like That, Remember It From My Physic Lessons.
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Correct Me If I'm Wrong, But Time Travel To Future Is Actually Possible If You're Next To Something Super Massive, Like Black Hole, Because In It's "Radius" Time "Passes" Slower Than Outside Of If Where Time Would Pass Faster, Or Something Like That, Remember It From My Physic Lessons.
Ya this is correct. You can essentially travel along the radius of a black hole, so the rest of the universe speeds up while you do not, and when you get out, you are in the future. Again, saw this from a Stephen Hawkings documentary.
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Old 07-23-2012, 11:09 AM   #30
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Not really time travel though. It's more like "you slow down, everyone else keeps going the same pace". Still really cool though.
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Or Just Travel Faster Than Speed Of Light, Or 98% Of It, For Few Days, Then Go Back To Earth, And You're In Future.
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Correct Me If I'm Wrong, But Time Travel To Future Is Actually Possible If You're Next To Something Super Massive, Like Black Hole, Because In It's "Radius" Time "Passes" Slower Than Outside Of If Where Time Would Pass Faster, Or Something Like That, Remember It From My Physic Lessons.
Of course time travel to the future is possible; you're doing it right now.

Reverse time travel is impossible and true inertia is impossible. The only way is forwards.
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Who Knows What Actually Might Be Possible.
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You can't really go back in time. Time is just a human construct to comprehend changes in the 3rd dimension. Think of it that way and it makes more sense.
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You can't really go back in time. Time is just a human construct to comprehend changes in the 3rd dimension. Think of it that way and it makes more sense.
Time is an oddity. The human mind can't quite comprehend how it works because we only comprehend 3 out of the ~10 dimensions.

When we bring in Zeno or extra-temporal reasoning, then we start to have some real problems.
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As a presentist I don't think Time travel, as most would define it, is possible.

The present is all that exists. There's no future or past to travel to.

So non of these paradoxes are even possible.

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Not really time travel though. It's more like "you slow down, everyone else keeps going the same pace". Still really cool though.
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Time is an oddity. The human mind can't quite comprehend how it works because we only comprehend 3 out of the ~10 dimensions.
Ironicly I think time is extremely easy to understand. The complexity comes when you try really hard to believe that these extra dimensions, that exist only to ease mathematics in theoretical physics, actually reflect reality.

So really, time is only an difficult to understand for those who prioritize their faith in extremely uncertain theoretical physics over their natural take of the universe as it's presented to them.

Oh, and the same can be said for those who brainlessly believe anything the hear about "Science" on the internet/tv to be true and unknowingly adopt extremely theoretical(And loosely based on fact) ideas about how the world is, as fact and therefore unknowingly have to reform their view of reality to fit with popular "science"
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Go back in time to the middle-ages and invent modern things we use today such as the computer and become rich.

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I would go and knock some common sense into myself.

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Reverse time travel is impossible anyway. Scientists determined that ages ago.
I guess I should look into this more because this seems like an odd thing to be able to determine impossible.

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Not sure what good a computer would be without electricity.

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If Time Traveling Exists (To Past) And Is Possible, Wouldn't We Already Be Seeing Time Travelers From The Future?
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Not necessarily.
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If Time Traveling Exists (To Past) And Is Possible, Wouldn't We Already Be Seeing Time Travelers From The Future?
The only thing remotely similar to time travel to the past that's possible is travel to another universe that greatly resembles/is identical to our universe's past.

But if travel to another universe is possible and there are an infinite number of universes exist (as some would have you believe. I'm looking at you popular "science" ) then a bunch of paradoxes arise.

one, for example is. If there are an infinite number of universes then there'd be an infinite number of universe travelers and ever universe would be traveled too by an infinite number of travelers at every moment at time. So we'd be over populated with time travelers since.

Of course this isn't a problem for someone, like me, who doesn't lay faith in these popular "Sciences".
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Old 07-23-2012, 03:02 PM   #43
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Yeah, I've Heard That Theory, There Are Infinite Universes, In Which Case It's Completely Possible That Somewhere , In One Of Those Universes, I'm The Emperor Of The Galaxy, In Other Serial Killer And Rapist ...

As I Said Before, No One Know, Maybe That's Correct, Maybe Not.

Switching Universes Wouldn't Really Classify As Time Traveling Though, And You Change Nothing In Your Original Universe.
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Well seeing as how I doubt I'll get a better chance to post this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw
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Yeah, I've Heard That Theory, There Are Infinite Universes, In Which Case It's Completely Possible That Somewhere , In One Of Those Universes, I'm The Emperor Of The Galaxy, In Other Serial Killer And Rapist ...

As I Said Before, No One Know, Maybe That's Correct, Maybe Not.

Switching Universes Wouldn't Really Classify As Time Traveling Though, And You Change Nothing In Your Original Universe.
While I agree we don't absolutely, undoubtedly know the truth on this matter.

I believe that reasons like the paradox I presented above, are really good reasons NOT to believe in such things.
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Tell Jesus about all the idiots who will twist his words to fit their racist, misogynistic, homophobic, (hateful), ideals, and ask him to clarify these topics so these problems wouldn't exist in the future. I guess I would do the same to any immensely influential philosopher if their words were twisted to justify any end other than their intended righteous purpose.

That's just off the top of my head, but trust me, there's plenty more I would do if I could travel to the past with the intention of making the future better. Ya, I'm a huge history nerd.
Not to turn this into a religious debate, but John the apostle stated that all the words and works of Jesus, if recorded, would not fit into all the libraries in the world. I would like to think that He spoke on every subject imaginable, but there wasn't enough paper available to record everything, or that the really really important stuff about Him saving us from our sins was way more important than what is/isn't a sin. The apostles cover a lot of these subjects clearly, and with the authority of God. For instance, racism should not be a part of any Christian's lifestyle, as Paul clearly spoke against it in Galatians 3:28, God spoke to Paul about it in Acts 10, and there are many other references.
Jesus would be the guy I'd want to visit, and I'd want to see the crucifixion. Not out of love of gore (cause I understand it's the most brutal and painful way to be killed), but because it would give me a better appreciation for His sacrifice.

Again, this is not meant to start a religious debate. If you have comments/questions about it, please send a PM.
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I'd Either want to meet Jesus, Moses, David, or Joseph.
Same here. I would love to travel back in time and meet Jesus Christ. I am not a Christian or anything, but being in the company of such a holy, spiritual man would be amazing. I'd also like to meet Buddha and/or Shankacharya...but no, Jesus is better. I'd also like to have seen Moses part the Red Sea...see the Ark of the Covenant for myself...yeah...

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You Know, I've Always Wondered;

If You Go Back In Time, Do Or Change Something, Then When I Go Back To Future, The Future Has Changed, But, What Happens To People Which I Left In My Original Time Line/Present.

For Example - It Is 2012, I And My Friend Can't Decide Who Will Use Time Machine To Kill Hitler, But In The End, It's Me. So I Say Goodbye And Go Back In Time, I Kill Hitler And Go Back To Future 2012. Here, In Current Present, It Is Known That Hitler Was Murdered. But, Nothing Has Changed In Time Which I Left When I First Used Time Machine.

Essentially, You Cant Really Change Anything, You Only Change Time Lines, Or Dimensions Or Whatever They're Called. However, I Think That Traveling To Future In This Case Could Be Actually Possible.
It's called the 'Multiverse Theory' and must be taken into account to overcome the 'Grandfather Paradox'.

It states that there are multiple 'universes' that are created each time a decision is made or a change in the timeline occurs for events that have 2 or more possible outcomes.
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If time travel into the past were possible, I'd travel back to 1937 and beseech James Joyce to divulge the secrets of Finnegans Wake -- if it's an elaborate joke or a monument to his literary genius...

Then moving forward to my childhood, when my father was still alive and kicking...
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Personally, I'd go back far enough to meet Sinatra & rest of the Rat Pack and wear all sorts of Cool rimmed Hats such as Fedora's or Bowlers that were quite in fashion back than!
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