Experiment Blackwings

[AveryCates]

Originally Posted by Daisuke Divine

So Give It More Of A Chaos Feel

BLS is too good of a boss to not run it. Even if you don't tech the TKRO's, E-veiler is staple at 3 this format.
Icarus at 3 is too cloggy for my taste.
Why do you even have a Call Of The Haunted? You can't bring back the Blackwing Synchros that you use with Vayu because they're not properly synchro Summoned. They're just special summoned.

Have a look at my VayuTurbo thread - it's in my sig.

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by AveryCates

BLS is too good of a boss to not run it. Even if you don't tech the TKRO's, E-veiler is staple at 3 this format.
Icarus at 3 is too cloggy for my taste.
Why do you even have a Call Of The Haunted? You can't bring back the Blackwing Synchros that you use with Vayu because they're not properly synchro Summoned. They're just special summoned.

Have a look at my VayuTurbo thread - it's in my sig.

Call Was Just A Bullsh8t Card To Have Until I Found Something Else But I Do Like The Deck Devistation Virus Never Thought About That
I Had BLS In Before With The Veilers I Just Been Switching It Up See What Looks Good & Doesn't

[AveryCates]

BLS is staple in everything that can afford to run it.
3 Veiler 2 Thunder King gives it more than enough viability since almost everything else is Dark.
DDV is fantastic to use since it stops alot of things in the current meta - and you have so many targets; Sirocco, Armed Wing, Armor Master, Silverwind etc.
Did you check out my deck? ;D

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by AveryCates

BLS is staple in everything that can afford to run it.
3 Veiler 2 Thunder King gives it more than enough viability since almost everything else is Dark.
DDV is fantastic to use since it stops alot of things in the current meta - and you have so many targets; Sirocco, Armed Wing, Armor Master, Silverwind etc.
Did you check out my deck? ;D

Yea i'm going to add DDV that's a nice addition
& yes i did i was noticing the similarities and differences i like it
The side deck is the one thing i been working i didn't know what to add i got a good idea now from looking at yours

[Clotho]

Truly, Skill Drain is sooo good that it was the only reason i wanted to run vayu > normal.

[Daisuke Divine]

I see a good amount of people vouching for the Skill Drain when i get time i'm going to test it out

[AveryCates]

Skill Drain is a complete Double Edge Sword in VayuTurbo.
It breaks all the effect monsters that we rely on; including our engine; Armageddon Knight, Dark Grepher, Thunder King, it breaks our boss monsters; BLS, DaD.

The only time I'd flip a Skill Drain is if I had 2 Silverwind's on the field, since they're big enough to stand up to most other decks' boss monsters.
Armed Wing and Armor Master are vanilla's in this deck, and pretty poor ones stat-wise; 2300 and 2500 aren't anything to be matched up with in this meta.

Vayu Turbo is completely underpowered compared to almost every other deck this format; we have to play smart and know our pushes.
Realistically I don't make pushes unless I have traps to back it up, you can't even summon a monster these days without geting compulsed or something, that breaks our plays. If we get backhanded like that, we need other cards to play to bounce back - like our engine or Thunder King.

... If I had Skill Drains I'd vigorously test it at 2 and 1.
But theoretically it has to be flipped at the precise time. Before a huge Synchro Spam (preferably Silverwinds)

[Daisuke Divine]

Of my whole thing with the skilll drain would be i would modify the deck because you have to play that smart the way this deck is now

I'm feeling the way this plays when i'm getting the right cards once u got DAD & a armagedon kight or Dark Grepher the deck rolls on it's own you just got to know when to make your move

If anything like i said before i would test Skill Drain with some different cards to match but i like this deck the way it is working now not the swarm breaker like others but a good deck none the less

[AveryCates]

How exactly would you modify to fit in Skill Drains?
You still haven't dropped the Card Troopers? :P

[Daisuke Divine]

I have i didn't update the deck i'm going to do that now
& i have an idea for it would obviously have to test it but i always like trying to build decks
Just built a chronomaly the other day & posted it here

[AveryCates]

Hm, If you find a way for Vayu Turbo to work without it's engine I'll pass you my VayuTurbo expert torch :P

[Daisuke Divine]

Sound Like A Fun But Extremely Difficuly Challenge
& The Deck Is Now Updated
Still Got To Add The Side

[jesseplaysyugioh]

alright so by looking at your deck, i see that you want to summon grepher or Armageddon Knight and activate their effects and dump sirocco and vayu to make 2300 atk beat sticks.
then you normal summon thunder king and activate your veilers getting lights in the grave to special your chaos monster, because you only run one chaos monster. why no chaos sorcerers? chaos sorc + plague = lv 8.
chaos + Effect Veiler = lv 7 (arcanite)

[AveryCates]

There's a point where it becomes a space issue. Fitting in Chaos Sorcerer and Arcanite is a space issue.

[Daisuke Divine]

Yea also if i was to run sorcerer would have to be at 2 minimum with that spacing issue the sacrifice for me to use that card wouldn't do the deck justice

[Massive_Attack]

Originally Posted by Daisuke Divine

I'll more then likely just side it since I need side deck help anyway

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that works

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by Massive_Attack

that works

Yea i'm actually working on a archetype now with vayuturbo & skill drain

[Massive_Attack]

Originally Posted by Daisuke Divine

Yea i'm actually working on a archetype now with vayuturbo & skill drain

update and let us know how the build does....personally i would only run it 1 or 2 at most....since i dont prefer decks that run 3 skill drain

[Daisuke Divine]

I'm only running 2 , 3 would be a bit of a overkill
Just figuring the other spells and traps to go with it outside of the solemn brigade or Dark Bribe to keep it up & going

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I got a rough draft on the vayu drain

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[ambienteternity]

I found this thread interesting, so here's a bump and subscribe.

I just bought a ton of blackwing cards along with grephers and armageddons, and I will admit, the turbo build seems to appeal to me most

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by ambienteternity

I found this thread interesting, so here's a bump and subscribe.

I just bought a ton of blackwing cards along with grephers and armageddons, and I will admit, the turbo build seems to appeal to me most

I'm glad u enjoy , when you play it right it plays well def something you should look into

[Jmval826]

I would say no sirroco at all. Sirroco is slow this format unfortunately. I like to max out on blizzard, shura, and bora. Also, a good tech blackwing is kochi the daybreak, I know he seems bad but he becomes amazing when comboing off with shura. Instant roach. set hand and end. also, no grepher or Armageddon Knight and no vayu. Veilers are absolutely mandatory. Tech in two mained t kings and I hate DAD in blackwings. Blackwings dont really combo off like they used to, they are more control now actually. believe it or not.

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by Jmval826

I would say no sirroco at all. Sirroco is slow this format unfortunately. I like to max out on blizzard, shura, and bora. Also, a good tech blackwing is kochi the daybreak, I know he seems bad but he becomes amazing when comboing off with shura. Instant roach. set hand and end. also, no grepher or Armageddon Knight and no vayu. Veilers are absolutely mandatory. Tech in two mained t kings and I hate DAD in blackwings. Blackwings dont really combo off like they used to, they are more control now actually. believe it or not.

I've given consideration to all those cards what u are gearing done towards is basic pure blackwing
The thing with blackwings are they are missing that one knock out card considering every new archetype that comes out has that one card
If u play blackwings well enough tho u can do well but as of right now they're going to fall short to the major tiers

[ambienteternity]

Originally Posted by Jmval826

I would say no sirroco at all. Sirroco is slow this format unfortunately. I like to max out on blizzard, shura, and bora. Also, a good tech blackwing is kochi the daybreak, I know he seems bad but he becomes amazing when comboing off with shura. Instant roach. set hand and end. also, no grepher or Armageddon Knight and no vayu. Veilers are absolutely mandatory. Tech in two mained t kings and I hate DAD in blackwings. Blackwings dont really combo off like they used to, they are more control now actually. believe it or not.

I know this isn't on the topic of the vayu turbo build in the thread, but if you were to run it pure like that, without DAD, who's your go-to boss monster? BLS?

[Daisuke Divine]

Originally Posted by ambienteternity

I know this isn't on the topic of the vayu turbo build in the thread, but if you were to run it pure like that, without DAD, who's your go-to boss monster? BLS?

Yea but u would have to find a way to fit some lights in there

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