Gyzarus, Bestiari, and the concept of "risk"

[RandyMarsh]

Well, first off, I don't run Tigerless. I think a lot of your arguments are tailored towards Tigerless - the notion that the deck is linear, focusing merely on attacking and gaining advantage that way. I'm running the full AHL build because I believe it offers the best and most optimal way to make fusions and exceeds, most of which people do not even acknowledge (Invoker, Shock Ruler, etc.)

Why would you mention Andal? lol. Andal is not a relevant card. A pumped Laquari is at 2100, which you failed to mention, but does that necessarily matter? Well, no. Dragons can easily drop 2400+ beaters which would poop on it. My point is, the deck runs enough spot removal to draw into SOMETHING to get over threats and you're not taking that into account. You're assuming that you'll draw bad and your opponent will always draw optimally.

Also, Equeste/Darius loops are not difficult to come by since any GB + removal of some kind and a successful attack is able to turn into them and then the turn after, do the exact thing again - later, rinse, repeat. I don't think it's fair of you to say you "know how to play gbs as much as I do" since I was likely playing this deck before you even picked it up and your arguments are quite poor, but I won't go into that that issue further.

[Innocent]

Originally Posted by RandyMarsh

Well, first off, I don't run Tigerless. I think a lot of your arguments are tailored towards Tigerless - the notion that the deck is linear, focusing merely on attacking and gaining advantage that way. I'm running the full AHL build because I believe it offers the best and most optimal way to make fusions and exceeds, most of which people do not even acknowledge (Invoker, Shock Ruler, etc.)

Why would you mention Andal? lol. Andal is not a relevant card. A pumped Laquari is at 2100, which you failed to mention, but does that necessarily matter? Well, no. Dragons can easily drop 2400+ beaters which would poop on it. My point is, the deck runs enough spot removal to draw into SOMETHING to get over threats and you're not taking that into account. You're assuming that you'll draw bad and your opponent will always draw optimally.

Also, Equeste/Darius loops are not difficult to come by since any GB + removal of some kind and a successful attack is able to turn into them and then the turn after, do the exact thing again - later, rinse, repeat. I don't think it's fair of you to say you "know how to play gbs as much as I do" since I was likely playing this deck before you even picked it up and your arguments are quite poor, but I won't go into that that issue further.

yes i was talking about tiger/tigerless builds not AHL builds. gbs in general depend on other cards to get over big beaters. a AHL build can keep re-spamming gyzarus or other fusions to get rid of other boss monsters but they loose half their life points just to try to spam. todays decks like rabbit and chaos-dragons can be just as fast without paying any lifepoints. not only that, a AHL deck outo-losses if it get countered since the top decks can easily hit you for greater then 4000 points next turn. both build have their advantages/disadvantages.
yes i know gbs have cards to get rid of threats but monsters like grapha,redmd,pulsar,shining that have the ability to respam is what make you loose your resources which are very important for gladiator beast decks (all different builds).looping equeste/darius is defficult once your resources are to minimum because of these monsters i said above are overwhelming. thats what im trying to say.
look i dont even why were discussing these things, im not even sure what our arguments are, im lost.lol lets just agree to disagree.

[RandyMarsh]

I'm all for agreeing to disagree, but you're completely mischaracterizing AHL and assuming that running it all of a sudden transforms the deck into GyzarusSpam.dek and allows the pilot to forego conservative play. That, sir, will lead to a series of well-deserved losses for that user. I'm advocating smart, conservative play that is needed for GB to be competitive. You certainly made some valid points though, I will say, and I believe you highlighted quite nicely problems that can be associated with GB if proper precautions are not taken.

[Dalguy94]

Originally Posted by Chaos3600

Did the entire point of this thread REALLY go over your head?

I did everything I possibly could to AVOID such idiotic statements in this thread. Seriously, reread the OP, and if you come to that conclusion again, reread it AGAIN, until you get something different.

I think you were just being trolled. Other than that,bexcellent discussion and I hope to see future reading such as these that help educate the Yu-Gi-Oh community.

[Serotonin]

We are having a great discussion please stop ruining it.

[Slexen]

With proving ground at 3, mst at 3 and heavy on the board makes it less of a risk.

Sure, there is nothing better then to Starlight Road or warning a gizz but people are maining lance more and more so bottomless, torrent and road become less relevant.

DAD: Its at 1 for a good reason since the chances of drawing it are slim and it cannot be searched.
And DaD needs more set up to use if Future Fusion is not used.

[Dalguy94]

Originally Posted by Serotonin

We are having a great discussion please stop ruining it.

I hope I'm not the one ruining it, cause I'm enjoying these discussions.

[Innocent]

Originally Posted by Dalguy94

I hope I'm not the one ruining it, cause I'm enjoying these discussions.

hehe lol.

[comraq]

RandyMarsh, i'm curious as to what is ur ahl deck list. I am not implying that i'm going to criticize you for running ahl and tiger, i'm just a gb player and wants to see a gb decklist.

[RandyMarsh]

I'm planning on possibly running it at Nats, so I'm a bit hesitant to post it out in public, but I could PM it to you if you'd like.

[fridaythe13thxx]

Chariot can sh***t on veiler. I run chariot times three in my deck.

Semi limit beastiari and semi limit gyza. Come on trollnami <3 lol