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05-12-2012, 10:16 AM
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TGU is not broken
so stop being terrible people and deal with it.
seriously, this is the XYZ era. it's only borderline because it can grab Sangan. even then, people still play TGU wrong.
the only problem with TGU is being able to make Leviair.
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05-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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Cooltrainer
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Is making a free rank 3 at no cost balanced?
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05-12-2012, 10:26 AM
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Pony enthusiast
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What's your point Vanessa?
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05-12-2012, 10:45 AM
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Actually, it is broken. It was released in EXVC as a monster spammer. At the time it was only good for that. With the advent of the exceed mechanic, it became instant access to Rank 3 monsters, which goes against its intended function. (I hope)
The question is whether or not it's overpowered.
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05-12-2012, 11:39 AM
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Ruler of Benevolence
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Originally Posted by Valafar123
Actually, it is broken. It was released in EXVC as a monster spammer. At the time it was only good for that. With the advent of the exceed mechanic, it became instant access to Rank 3 monsters, which goes against its intended function. (I hope)
The question is whether or not it's overpowered.
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You should reread the articles talking about TGU back when it was first announced.
This is its intended function. (Of course, anyone who paid really close attention probably saw the current situation coming from a few miles away - Konami lacks the seeming capability to market a mechanic or a card without making it something anyone can play for no work at all.) |
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05-12-2012, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pharaoh Atem
You should reread the articles talking about TGU back when it was first announced.
This is its intended function. (Of course, anyone who paid really close attention probably saw the current situation coming from a few miles away - Konami lacks the seeming capability to market a mechanic or a card without making it something anyone can play for no work at all.)
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Your point is valid, but the fact is when EXVC was released, TGFTU was balanced.
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05-12-2012, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Valafar123
Your point is valid, but the fact is when EXVC was released, TGFTU was balanced.
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Of course it was. At the time of it's release, Exceeds didn't exist, and Tour Guide was a $30 secret, purely because it was fapbait. Then Exceeds + Leviathan Dragon + Sangan + BLS + incorrect rulings = $160 semi-staple in competitive decks. (And actually if I remember right the card cost more than that.)
Tour Guide "isn't broken" is one of the most ignorant things I've seen on Pojo, by the way.
Last edited by SageShini : 05-12-2012 at 01:41 PM.
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05-12-2012, 12:50 PM
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Back At It
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Normal Summoning a Rank 3 is pretty broken. Not to mention that 3 is the best Rank in the game, TGU can also grab Sangan, she thins the deck, and she does it for absolutely no commitment of resources or card advantage.
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05-12-2012, 12:54 PM
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does not warrant a limit to 1.
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05-12-2012, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SageShini
Of course it was. At the time of it's release, synchros didn't exist, and Tour Guide was a $30 secret, purely because it was fapbait. Then Exceeds + Leviathan Dragon + Sangan + BLS + incorrect rulings = $160 semi-staple in competitive decks. (And actually if I remember right the card cost more than that.)
Tour Guide "isn't broken" is one of the most ignorant things I've seen on Pojo, by the way. |
As said, Tour Guide is broken. Whether or not it's overpowered is another question.
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05-12-2012, 12:55 PM
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if you honestly think this card is broken, you need to rethink your perspective on card designs.
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05-12-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Alastorrr
if you honestly think this card is broken, you need to rethink your perspective on card designs.
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By definition, "broken" refers to either interaction with other cards or poor card design.
Tour Guide originally functioned as a simple +1 without much reward. The exceed mechanic extended this card's usage and gave it versatility that it did not have before.
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05-12-2012, 01:00 PM
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混沌帝龍 －終焉の使者－
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Originally Posted by SageShini
Of course it was. At the time of it's release, synchros didn't exist, and Tour Guide was a $30 secret, purely because it was fapbait. Then Exceeds + Leviathan Dragon + Sangan + BLS + incorrect rulings = $160 semi-staple in competitive decks. (And actually if I remember right the card cost more than that.)
Tour Guide "isn't broken" is one of the most ignorant things I've seen on Pojo, by the way. |
Here's the lulz here.
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05-12-2012, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by guynamedjoe
Here's the lulz here.
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I'm sure we all know what he meant. On topic, tour guide should not be at three. If op doesn't think tour guide should go to one, what should happen to this "non-broken" card? |
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05-12-2012, 01:19 PM
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not one to spit cliches but...
...inb4lock
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05-12-2012, 01:37 PM
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Envoy o d Breakfas
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Originally Posted by Alastorrr
TGU is not broken
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LOL no. Lots of rank 3 Xyzs are a plus 1 so to be balanced they should need set up or a - 1 to summon. either about 4 rank 3's are broken or tour guide is. |
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05-12-2012, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alastorrr
if you honestly think this card is broken, you need to rethink your perspective on card designs.
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It adds consistency to nearly any deck, thins your deck, AND lets you put either a 2500 beater, a 2100 wall that pops cards, or a monster which special summons from banished onto the field. All of this from drawing a single card. My perspective on card designs is fine, but you need to work on yours. |
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05-12-2012, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SageShini
It adds consistency to nearly any deck, thins your deck, AND lets you put either a 2500 beater, a 2100 wall that pops cards, or a monster which special summons from banished onto the field. All of this from drawing a single card. My perspective on card designs is fine, but you need to work on yours.
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that sounds like an xyz problem.
there are waaaay more detrimental cards than tgu that are actually broken. |
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05-12-2012, 02:52 PM
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The Baron
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Originally Posted by PKinetic
not one to spit cliches but...
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05-12-2012, 02:57 PM
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Screw to 1. The card deserves a ban.
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05-12-2012, 03:41 PM
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NEW PUMPKIN CARDSS
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Originally Posted by Valafar123
Actually, it is broken. It was released in EXVC as a monster spammer. At the time it was only good for that. With the advent of the exceed mechanic, it became instant access to Rank 3 monsters, which goes against its intended function. (I hope)
The question is whether or not it's overpowered.
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No, that was certainly its intended function.
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05-12-2012, 03:57 PM
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Radical Extremist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Valafar123
Actually, it is broken. It was released in EXVC as a monster spammer. At the time it was only good for that. With the advent of the exceed mechanic, it became instant access to Rank 3 monsters, which goes against its intended function. (I hope)
The question is whether or not it's overpowered.
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If you are using "broken" as a term to describe Tour Guide From the Underworld, then by definition Tour Guide should be Forbidden.
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05-12-2012, 04:04 PM
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Machiner
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Broken? No, not really.
Hitworthy? I agree. It's not literally broken, but OP enough for a hit. 1 or 2 is fine.
But hardly banworthy.
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05-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pumpknight
No, that was certainly its intended function.
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Sigh, Konami.
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Originally Posted by Chaos3600
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Broken ≠ bannable
Which is why Fortune Lady Light and Infernity Archfiend are still legal.
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05-12-2012, 04:20 PM
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Radical Extremist
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Originally Posted by Valafar123
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Yes it does. Broken implies something is being wrecked or screwed over, and something like should be punished at the highest possible punishment, which is Banning. Cards like FL Light and Archfiend aren't broken at all, and therefore are not banworthy.
To use broken and bannable as two different terms is to downsize what being broken truely is to the game. This is not good for healthy and productive list creation.
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