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Old 05-06-2012, 12:49 PM   #1
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Just something I noticed at my sneak preview today. Many players complained about lack of good pulls from packs. Something we always hear at sneaks. But out of about 180 packs no secrets and around 4 ultras and a handful of supers where pulled. Some packs also containing all commons or two rares.

When looking at the back of the packaging the text now reads: "Set content subject to change. No specific card rarity is guaranteed to exist within individual pack, box or case unless otherwise indicated."

Is this something new as these have been the first packs I've gotten in a while. Wouldn't that mean you could buy a sealed box and they could contain 216 common cards and there is nothing you can complain about?
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:01 PM   #2
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Stuff like that happens from time to time, but it's still a scary thought. All booster packs are "Garen-teed" to have 1 rare and 8 commons.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:22 PM   #3
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Yes I have seen the missed rare in other sets before but that's not what I was worried about. Its the fact that 1 rare and 8 commons are not guaranteed anymore. Ratios are not on packs anymore and there is a disclaimer now about this:

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Yes I have seen the missed rare in other sets before but that's not what I was worried about. Its the fact that 1 rare and 8 commons are not guaranteed anymore. Ratios are not on packs anymore and there is a disclaimer now about this:

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Sounds either something that a lawyer suggested, or just Konami trying to dispel those myths about "one secret garunteed per box u guise"
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #5
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If there is some randomness that could happen, but if they are claiming to have random packs, but instead fixing the rates to give out less good cards then that is a problem.
Haha I'll just start stealing if I could waste $50+ and get straight common useless cards and vanillas.
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Old 05-06-2012, 01:29 PM   #6
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got 5 packs, pulled only 2 rares, 2 of my pack were sealed very poorly (cases were sealed)

the konami's quality contole have failed us badly, whats the point in buying packs now if were going to get the rejected pack off the production line.

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Old 05-06-2012, 01:54 PM   #7
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I like how people always think your guaranteed everything IE 1 secret per box.. Lol hilarious when they argue about them being right too
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That's quite a change from this 1st Edition Phantom Darkness pack I have in front of me. Yeah, I hoarded it, so what?

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Funny how it essentially says the same thing. Probability is not the same thing as a guarantee. Only a few Secret Rare cards were pulled at my sneak and most of the Super Rare cards were Flelf. Seriously, one guy pulled maybe eight Flelves(?).
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That's quite a change from this 1st Edition Phantom Darkness pack I have in front of me. Yeah, I hoarded it, so what?



I wouldn't try to contact them for information. I think that might piss them off.

Funny how it essentially says the same thing. Probability is not the same thing as a guarantee. Only a few Secret Rare cards were pulled at my sneak and most of the Super Rare cards were Flelf. Seriously, one guy pulled maybe eight Flelves(?).
Ok, there was no ulti or secrets, 20-50% of the packs had a no rares and others had to.

My first pack contained no rares and 2 of the same evo monster, next pack had a rare, one after it had a rare and the next 2 were half opened and had no rares , so thoughts 8 flelves, would of been nice.
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Ok, there was no ulti or secrets, 20-50% of the packs had a no rares and others had to.

My first pack contained no rares and 2 of the same evo monster, next pack had a rare, one after it had a rare and the next 2 were half opened and had no rares , so you 8 flelves, woild of been nice.
I have gotten bum packs before (two Science Soldiers instead of a Rare). There have been instances of sneak preview packs being somewhat defective. This is something you can contact Konami about. Get some people from the same event to email Konami about what had happened. Don't be passive aggressive about it because that doesn't solve anything.

Also, I didn't get those Flelves, somebody else did. And there were only a handful of Secret Rare cards out of three sneak sets.
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I have gotten bum packs before (two Science Soldiers instead of a Rare). There have been instances of sneak preview packs being somewhat defective. This is something you can contact Konami about. Get some people from the same event to email Konami about what had happened. Don't be passive aggressive about it because that doesn't solve anything.

Also, I didn't get those Flelves, somebody else did. And there were only a handful of Secret Rare cards out of three sneak sets.
Thank you, Do u know the email for europe ?
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Thank you, Do u know the email for europe ?
http://www.yugioh-card.com/
Select your country and there should be a button label "Contact Us".
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cool, thank you.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:32 PM   #14
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i emailed konami before.. i bought a case of wave 2 2011 tins.. ALL the STOR packs were missing a card. i emailed them they sent me a bubblemailer, i put the cards and the booster wrappers in them sent it out, got replacement packs a week later.
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Old 05-06-2012, 03:52 PM   #15
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i emailed konami before.. i bought a case of wave 2 2011 tins.. ALL the STOR packs were missing a card. i emailed them they sent me a bubblemailer, i put the cards and the booster wrappers in them sent it out, got replacement packs a week later.
kinda hard to do for a hole sneak peak.
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Old 05-06-2012, 04:13 PM   #16
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**** happens. I've had missing cards from booster packs, missing cards from structure decks, extra cards in booster packs, extra cards in structure decks, double-foil pulls, 5-rare pulls, and just about everything in the middle. Hell I even saw a kid pull two Ghost Honests in the same pack. Probably the most common oddity I see are the commons after the rare are upsidedown, or the Rare will be the 7th card in the pack instead of in the middle (happened a lot with ORCS for some reason).

Manufacturing screwups happen. For every one complaint you hear about, there's thousands more that go off without incident.
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240 booster packs to open 1 Cardcar D, many secrets, ultimates, ultras and supers. Can't complain about ours yesterday and today.
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240 booster packs to open 1 Cardcar D, many secrets, ultimates, ultras and supers. Can't complain about ours yesterday and today.
I was told about a few sneaks, it seem it was just this sneak that got has had this problem.

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Yeah it was just that one dude. You were probably just unlucky at your one.

A guy I saw at the one near me pulled 3 supers from his packs and I heard nothing about a missing rare in any pack. Some guy also pulled CCD.
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i emailed konami before.. i bought a case of wave 2 2011 tins.. ALL the STOR packs were missing a card. i emailed them they sent me a bubblemailer, i put the cards and the booster wrappers in them sent it out, got replacement packs a week later.
...so if i'm unimpressed with any pulls i get, i could just swap the rare out for another common and mail it back to them for another pack free of charge? OMG
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I saw a booster box opening on Youtube. It was the normal ratio.
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Of course that all the packs aren't full of supers and ultras, someone always ends up with more rares than the rest :s

What I honestly don't like is the new Konami Kits. I honestly prefer sealed displays.
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That's really weird, when i went to my GAOV sneak peak every pack had a rare.
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That's really weird, when i went to my GAOV sneak peak every pack had a rare.
maybe your place scaled them beforehand...
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I'ts possible, but i did pull some holos.
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