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Old 04-27-2012, 08:33 PM   #1
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Default OMG Wiseman's Chalice

I was dueling my friend. He was using Wind Up's and than he had summoned a Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction which got destroyed because I was gonna lose if I didnt Dark Hole the field.

Anyway I used Wiseman's Chalice and than summoned Number 30: Acid Golem of Destruction from their grave. Gave it to them XD TROLL LOL.
They had 1500 LP left XD

How much play do you guys think Wiseman's Chalice will se?
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:37 PM   #2
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In a situation where it's only good if your opponent has Acid Golem in the graveyard... it won't see anymore play than what it already is seeing.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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In a situation where it's only good if your opponent has Acid Golem in the graveyard... it won't see anymore play than what it already is seeing.
Its very good for xyz summoning. Really good in mirror matches. Like if both plays play wind ups. You can xyz it b4 it before the end of your turn.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:52 PM   #4
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The only play it's gonna see is in inzektor side decks.
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Old 04-27-2012, 08:53 PM   #5
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Its very good for xyz summoning. Really good in mirror matches. Like if both plays play wind ups. You can xyz it b4 it before the end of your turn.
Especially in Inzektor mirror matches too. Revive their monsters and use their effects to pop more cards, then xyz after you're done with them

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Old 04-27-2012, 10:00 PM   #6
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You guys are saying this cause it hasnt topped yet. Sheep
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:24 PM   #7
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You guys are saying this cause it hasnt topped yet. Sheep
Um... i thought that was what most people were nowadays? Note i said, "most", not all.
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Old 04-27-2012, 10:30 PM   #8
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What makes you think it'll suddenly see play? It's been out since DREV. It's certainly not a bad card, it can be used to Xyz/synchro/whatever. But deck space tends to be tight nowadays, as does side deck space. The uses for this card just aren't there. Mind Control is a better option than this. Monster Reborn is a better option than this. It's better now than it used to be because of Xyz, but it might see some tech play as best. It's too situational, other than a side deck option for mirror matches that might happen often, like Inzektors and depending on how popular Dino Rabbit continues to be.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:44 AM   #9
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Hype it Hype it Hype it Hype it Hype it Hype it Hype it Hype it

I have a Playset sitting in my binder that I need to get rid of, keep up the good work boys
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Old 04-28-2012, 09:21 AM   #10
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What makes you think it'll suddenly see play? It's been out since DREV. It's certainly not a bad card, it can be used to Xyz/synchro/whatever. But deck space tends to be tight nowadays, as does side deck space. The uses for this card just aren't there. Mind Control is a better option than this. Monster Reborn is a better option than this. It's better now than it used to be because of Xyz, but it might see some tech play as best. It's too situational, other than a side deck option for mirror matches that might happen often, like Inzektors and depending on how popular Dino Rabbit continues to be.
The monster you take can't be tributed or used for synchro summons... Might pair nicely with Vengeful Servant though...
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:18 AM   #11
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Ah, I didn't even notice that. So it has to be overlaid, unless you can do something else with it.

So... only good for Mirror Matches, and I guess something like Bubblebeat could run this. Take something and overlay with it, or just Miracle Fuse it. It's sort of a Super Poly sub if you don't feel like Super Poly will be live due to not having a card in hand.

Still, other cards do a similar job but better. Interesting tech, definitely, but far from new side semi-staple.
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:20 AM   #12
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Also good side vs amoeba control
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:22 AM   #13
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What is this, pre-GENF again? Does no one else remember when people were trying to hype the crap out of this card but nothing came of it?
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Yeah, it's DREV. I mean, it's gotten better with the advent of overlaying. It's not a BAD card, it does get you a monster you can Xyz with. But it's hard to find room in your deck for this if you're going to make serious use of it. And it's usually going to be in the side - it'll be dead if you run Inzektors and go against Hero BEAT or some situation where the levels don't match up.
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it s a card that rely on your oponent deck and it s not for a themed deck so................HELL NO
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Old 04-28-2012, 11:10 AM   #16
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The problem with it isn't that it replies on your opponent's deck, but that it has too many draw backs. You can't keep what you're taking from them (Monster Reborn) you're taking something dead rather than depriving them of what you take (Mind Control) and if you don't do something with it, it +1's your opponent. +2 if you take into consideration you're using a card to give them one.
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The problem with it isn't that it replies on your opponent's deck, but that it has too many draw backs. You can't keep what you're taking from them (Monster Reborn) you're taking something dead rather than depriving them of what you take (Mind Control) and if you don't do something with it, it +1's your opponent. +2 if you take into consideration you're using a card to give them one.
i hate when people talk like that
it s sound like non-sens
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Old 04-28-2012, 01:58 PM   #18
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... In card advantage terms?
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... In card advantage terms?
not really but i just hate to hear +,- and consistanci
why people can t talk without that?
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it s a card that rely on your oponent deck and it s not for a themed deck so................HELL NO
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not really but i just hate to hear +,- and consistanci
why people can t talk without that?
+ and - is card advantage. It's used to put the game in a bit of a vacuum. It explains why Raigeki Break (2 for 1) will more or less always be better than Two Pronged Attack (3 for 1) and why Smashing Ground is theoretically better than Raigeki Break, though RB has a bit more versatility. It isn't perfect, but it's a simplified and easy way to look at the game, and it's pretty important to understand why.

And consistency is just as important. I'll fall to my main deck, Infernities, as an example. It can drop 9000+ damage on the field on one turn, and back it up with the best protection you can think of (Infernity Barrier x3 + Void Ogre Dragon + Stardust Dragon). Except it's not exactly going to do this turn two of every duel it plays, because it lacks the consistency of other decks, like HERO Beat.
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not really but i just hate to hear +,- and consistanci
why people can t talk without that?
It's card advantage theory, the one that takes into account what it costs you in cards or gains you, rather than what it could/can/also gain you in other things... like surviving the game.

Why are you surprised?
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They are pretty new. They've only been on Pojo for a month, so they probably don't know the ins and outs of the game yet.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:57 PM   #24
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People were going crazy about this card back when Xyzs were revealed and nothing came of it.

It's garbage.
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People were going crazy about this card back when Xyzs were revealed and nothing came of it.

It's garbage.
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