Official Evol Guide and Discussion VII - "Silly Rabbit, Laggia is for Evols!"

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by LifeStreamDragon27

OMG. I just looked up a couple rulings on the YGO Wiki. Wow, I feel ashamed and pissed off.

I REALLY should have won my match against Dino Rabbit yesterday.
Laggia CAN negate during damage step. I thought she could, but my opponent was hard core "no you can't".
What made it annoying was he actually kind of laughed and then looks around with that "Is this guy really that stupid?" kind of look on his face.

Yeah, in this situation I was attacking with Laggia and he flips over Lance in damage step.


Later in that match he sets a Snowman Eater and so I hold off on attacking, hoping to get out Dolkka next turn. During his next turn he leaves Snowman Eater set and passes. I finally just said "screw it" and attacked it.
I asked him why he didnt flip it himself in his Last Turn and he said it was because I could have negated it.

Laggia's effect does not negate flip summons. He understood it as you could, but you cant.

Man, he is dumb, but so am I for not being able to skillfully argue my side.

And I bet he would have no objection using Stardust in the Damage Step. Its the same thing. But he's a Rabbit player; you can't expect them to actually know how to play.

[LifeStreamDragon27]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

And I bet he would have no objection using Stardust in the Damage Step. Its the same thing. But he's a Rabbit player; you can't expect them to actually know how to play.

Yeah, exactly. I even brought up the fact that Stardust could negate Catastor which is part of the damage step.

I am quickly learning that this is my weak point. I can easily get flustered when faced with a ruling dispute. Usually I know the rulings for my own deck, but I don't always know WHY the ruling is the way it is. Thus I cannot properly argue it and I get intimidated or something I guess....


Although I will say that it is a pain with many rulings. The general rule of thumb is that only counter traps or spell/traps with attack/defense changing effects can be activated during the damage step.
Stardust Dragon fits neither of those categories thus at first thought, Stardust shouldn't be able to. Yet we all know he can.
Where in the rule book explains why it can? No where.

[Jawohl]

I thought Catastor's effect was BEFORE the damage step?

EDIT: It's at the start.

Hm.

[LifeStreamDragon27]

^Yeah, its effect prevents damage calculation, but you still have to enter the damage and all sub step preceding damage calculation step.

[Pattyboo]

Actually any monster effect which negates and destroys a card(s) can be activated during the damage step.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by LifeStreamDragon27

Yeah, exactly. I even brought up the fact that Stardust could negate Catastor which is part of the damage step.

I am quickly learning that this is my weak point. I can easily get flustered when faced with a ruling dispute. Usually I know the rulings for my own deck, but I don't always know WHY the ruling is the way it is. Thus I cannot properly argue it and I get intimidated or something I guess....


Although I will say that it is a pain with many rulings. The general rule of thumb is that only counter traps or spell/traps with attack/defense changing effects can be activated during the damage step.
Stardust Dragon fits neither of those categories thus at first thought, Stardust shouldn't be able to. Yet we all know he can.
Where in the rule book explains why it can? No where.

Things that can be activated in the damage step:
A) Counter Traps
B) ATK and DEF altering spells/traps
C) Quick monster effects that negate
D) Mandatory Trigger effects

Both Laggia AND Dolkka fit criteria C. So does Stardust, Horus LV8, etc. I also tend to get flustered when faced with a ruling dispute, partially because its usually with a big black guy who scares me, and because the people at my locals are idiots, who agree with other idiots. I was actually having to argue with a guy that Karakuri Muso mdl 818 "Haipa" was switched to defense after it attacked. He was saying "no, he gets switched when it gets attacked" despite it being clearly written on the card that I was right. He even read it and somehow missed the last sentence <.<

Other moronic rulings:
- Dark Simorgh + Gozen Match = You get to pick what attribute Simorgh is, and it stays that 1 attribute.
- Guaiba doesn't get its effect when it suicides.
- Xyz materials are banished with D-fissure on the field
- You can summon Silent Psychic Cleric as the very first move of the duel and activate its effect "just to get a psychic in the grave"
- If my Lightpulsar Dragon and REDMD get Dark Hole'd, Lightpulsar's effect won't work
- Dark Worlds get their effects from Lightning Vortex and Snipe Hunter

This is why I lurk in the Q&A forum, and am working on getting my judge certification (I just found my COSSY). I'm already the ruling god at my locals.

[DocSprite]

Please CC, become a judge. The less moronic judges out there, the better. My locals half of the time doesn't even have a judge; although luckily enough the small caste of good players actually know their ****.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by DocSprite

Please CC, become a judge. The less moronic judges out there, the better. My locals half of the time doesn't even have a judge; although luckily enough the small caste of good players actually know their ****.

I'm trying. I went all the way through the judge test then it said "Enter COSSY ID" and I couldn't find my card.

My locals is too small for actual judges. Some people claim they have their judge certifications, but they seriously don't know anything. One guy said the Psychic Cleric play was legal. Another guy said "Flamvell Firedog sending a monster to the graveyard is a cost to activate its effect."

Its also horribly pathetic how people try to wiggle out of situations. One guy tried to tell me Valhalla, Hall of the Fallen was "eratta'd" to where you could only use it during your MP1, so it wouldn't be "too broken." (Mind you, this was in a casual duel, of all things). Another guy was dueling me in a tournament and tried to activate Call Of The Haunted with Acid Golem on the field, then tried to say "You can still Special Summon while it has materials, they ruled it that way in Jacksonville last weekend" (which is utter bull****).

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

I'm trying. I went all the way through the judge test then it said "Enter COSSY ID" and I couldn't find my card.

My locals is too small for actual judges. Some people claim they have their judge certifications, but they seriously don't know anything. One guy said the Psychic Cleric play was legal. Another guy said "Flamvell Firedog sending a monster to the graveyard is a cost to activate its effect."

Its also horribly pathetic how people try to wiggle out of situations. One guy tried to tell me Valhalla, Hall of the Fallen was "eratta'd" to where you could only use it during your MP1, so it wouldn't be "too broken." (Mind you, this was in a casual duel, of all things). Another guy was dueling me in a tournament and tried to activate Call Of The Haunted with Acid Golem on the field, then tried to say "You can still Special Summon while it has materials, they ruled it that way in Jacksonville last weekend" (which is utter bull****).

Some people are complete idiots. Even outside of Pojo, which is the safe haven for all the idiots. At least there are some logical people that actually know how to play the damn game.

Pray tell, how does one become a judge?

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

Some people are complete idiots. Even outside of Pojo, which is the safe haven for all the idiots. At least there are some logical people that actually know how to play the damn game.

Pray tell, how does one become a judge?

There's a sticky in either Q&A or TCG Gossip (I can't remember, but I think its Gossip) thats all about the judge program. There's a link somewhere in the OP that takes you to the judge test. From there you have like 40 minutes to answer 20 or 30 rulings questions. Afterwards, you input your COSSY ID and await your results.

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

There's a sticky in either Q&A or TCG Gossip (I can't remember, but I think its Gossip) thats all about the judge program. There's a link somewhere in the OP that takes you to the judge test. From there you have like 40 minutes to answer 20 or 30 rulings questions. Afterwards, you input your COSSY ID and await your results.

*Goes to take test*

[Jawohl]

Stardust negates, oh yeah. DUH. I forgot it negates, you guys had me under the assumption it doesn't for some reason lol.

[Dragynking1]

53% first time. The *******?

70% the second time. THE *******?

Additional Comment:

I'm miffed. More than half the questions are simple s***.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

53% first time. The *******?

70% the second time. THE *******?

Additional Comment:

I'm miffed. More than half the questions are simple s***.

Lol. I don't remember what my score was. Maybe 80 something. I'll need to retake it some time.

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

Lol. I don't remember what my score was. Maybe 80 something. I'll need to retake it some time.

I got 70% the third time.
...
This is almost as bad as the DN admin test :/

But at least those questions take thought.

"What is the total amount of cards a player can have in his or her Main Deck?"
Da ***.

[LifeStreamDragon27]

All of my local friends have taken the test. I have yet to do so.
Frankly I am in no rush. I'd probably get banned from judging so quickly. lol
Why?
Because I would end up insulting the crap out of someone who tries to "not know" an easy ruling.


Like I hate it when people ask about a card ruling when if they actually took the time to read the card, they would know the answer....

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

I got 70% the third time.
...
This is almost as bad as the DN admin test :/

But at least those questions take thought.

"What is the total amount of cards a player can have in his or her Main Deck?"
Da ***.

60 cards =/
I got 15/20 on the DN test.

Originally Posted by LifeStreamDragon27

All of my local friends have taken the test. I have yet to do so.
Frankly I am in no rush. I'd probably get banned from judging so quickly. lol
Why?
Because I would end up insulting the crap out of someone who tries to "not know" an easy ruling.


Like I hate it when people ask about a card ruling when if they actually took the time to read the card, they would know the answer....

Just tell them to read the card and point it out, I guess. Judges get a lot of cool stuff, too. Its definitely worth it.

[LifeStreamDragon27]

Aside from getting a box apparently from judging a big event, my only motivation for becoming judge would be for that Gagaga Girl mat.
But that ship has sailed I think...

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

60 cards =/
I got 15/20 on the DN test.

Options:

• 40-60
• 40-80
• 60-80
• 40+
• None of the above

-________________-
It's clearly the last one.
I got 13/20.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

Options:

• 40-60
• 40-80
• 60-80
• 40+
• None of the above

-________________-
It's clearly the last one.
I got 13/20.

.... the deck size is 40-60...

Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious?

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

.... the deck size is 40-60...

Is that sarcasm? Or are you serious?

Sarcasm dude. I know this is Pojo, but I'm not a moron.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

Sarcasm dude. I know this is Pojo, but I'm not a moron.

My detector hasn't been working right lately, so I've been having to play it by ear, which is hard over the internet.

Jarrell "Pro" Winston judged at some YCS and he posted a youtube video of all the stuff he got from it. It was insane. He got an EXVC Box, GENF Box, I think another GENF box, like 6 mats, a book bag, and a trade binder. And the box pulls were amazing.

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

My detector hasn't been working right lately, so I've been having to play it by ear, which is hard over the internet.

Jarrell "Pro" Winston judged at some YCS and he posted a youtube video of all the stuff he got from it. It was insane. He got an EXVC Box, GENF Box, I think another GENF box, like 6 mats, a book bag, and a trade binder. And the box pulls were amazing.

That judging support sounds pretty neat. I would give up a lot of my time to judge if I got all that.

IF ONLY I COULD PASS THIS DAMN TEST GRRAAAGH

Seriously, who even plays Blue Thunder T-45 or Pollinosis anymore? Ergh.

[CrazyCat]

Originally Posted by dragynking1

That judging support sounds pretty neat. I would give up a lot of my time to judge if I got all that.

IF ONLY I COULD PASS THIS DAMN TEST GRRAAAGH

Seriously, who even plays Blue Thunder T-45 or Pollinosis anymore? Ergh.

I do. In the same deck.

[Dragynking1]

Originally Posted by CrazyCat

I do. In the same deck.

http://i.imgur.com/630DZ.jpg

Additional Comment:

I KEEP GETTING 70% bspkgnsfkbjnsij