Kaijudo Update Thread

[k-rick]

Finally! It appears that we've gained some actual knowledge of the TCG!

http://www.kaijudo.com/game/

We're finally introduced to what the card art and layout looks like. I have to say they're pretty vibrant, but at the same time it is highly reminiscent of DM!

Unfortunately from here it looks like the TCG won't be released until late June though....

[ImDoneItsOver]

A Hard Date as well as Effects wow WOTC is stepping it up, now my question is ... Has the Resource system changed as well?

[Rea2]

-Tatsurion is a Double breaker (shields keeps the same name), mono fire and Fury Charge allows to attack tapped creatures only.
-And RazorKinder a new creature race Evil Tay.
-Battle decks are 2 decks of 40 cards.
It's very colorful, but everything remains the same except for the number 1 on the bottom of the cards.

[VinylTurn]

Originally Posted by Rea2

-Tatsurion is a Double breaker (shields keeps the same name), mono fire and Fury Charge allows to attack tapped creatures only.
-And RazorKinder a new creature race Evil Tay.
-Battle decks are 2 decks of 40 cards.
It's very colourful, but everything remains the same except for the number 1 on the bottom of the cards.

Looks like Evil Toy to me. Looking forward to this, although, I wish they used the name "Tatsurion, the Unchained".

I'm not sure what my take on the new layout is. I kind of like it...

[SynchroKnight]

Yeah that makes me wonder what our "mana" system will be without the ones on the cards. Either way, very excited. Cards look similar to the old layout and art doesn't look terrible.

[Rea2]

Originally Posted by SynchroKnight

Yeah that makes me wonder what our "mana" system will be without the ones on the cards. Either way, very excited. Cards look similar to the old layout and art doesn't look terrible.

Probably, the glove is the new mana symbol (well, it's what Ray uses for summon creatures).

[darkmagick14]

100% surprised about the way they went with 'Bob'. Least he is sort of Bolshack esque now.

Razor Kinder is an Evil Toy aka a Death Puppt(they are going for a more child friendly version of DM, just deal with it...), Purple/Darkness, costs 7 mana,
Effect: 'x' stap - When this creature enters the battle zone, banish target enemy creature. (BANISH could be remove from game like in Magic or our term for destroying something BUT rfg does make sense and does sound promising tbh.)

Interesting to say the least.

Dm14

[ImDoneItsOver]

the borders are a bit too Battle Spirits for me but other than that. And yeah I asked that resource question on the Kaijudo FB page..

[CVH]

Potential release in June makes me a little sad but aside from that.. no complaints lol. I think WotC is just probably gonna make everything count as 1 mana.

[k-rick]

Originally Posted by Rea2

-Tatsurion is a Double breaker (shields keeps the same name), mono fire and Fury Charge allows to attack tapped creatures only.
-And RazorKinder a new creature race Evil Tay.
-Battle decks are 2 decks of 40 cards.
It's very colorful, but everything remains the same except for the number 1 on the bottom of the cards.

To those of you who still are unsure about what our mana system will look like:

Look carefully up at the top, where the cost of the card would be (below in my hyperlink).

http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n..._DeckLarge.jpg

See the areas that I've enclosed in a square? Visualize the card upside down. That makes the symbol that I've enclosed in the squares flip (the pointed part of the pentagon would point UP when flipped 180 degrees). I'm assuming they've done away with the "1" (because as we know, we didn't really need the one there anyway as every card counted as just one mana) and have instead decided to use this to show what type of mana this card counts as.

Or possibly, the watermark in the center of the text box could do the same thing.

I think we'll all agree that the number itself isn't needed, just the color. Maybe both of my theories are wrong and they're just going to say "put this in your mana zone" and we'll follow the same rules of using mana as we did in DM.

[Shining Phoenix]

Cards have mana costs, so either they all generate 1 mana, or there are seperate mana generating cards. I hope it's the first one. Also, if it's the first one, this means they've decided there won't be any 0 or 2 mana generating cards.

[Rocko]

Looks sooooooo kiddy. Oh well. As long as the gameplay is great.

[k-rick]

Originally Posted by Shining Phoenix

Cards have mana costs, so either they all generate 1 mana, or there are seperate mana generating cards. I hope it's the first one. Also, if it's the first one, this means they've decided there won't be any 0 or 2 mana generating cards.

I'm going to be incline to say it's more of the former option. If they were to introduce separate mana generation cards, those decks would have to be much larger than just 40 cards.

I'd be glad to see the resource system kept the same as it was in DM. I hated Magic's lands.

[Rezird]

Definitely seems interesting. I'm still debating whether I should pick this up after 5 years since retiring from DM. Not to mention I'd have to re-invest a ton of money into it all over again.(Getting a playset of invi Hulcus was ridiculous)

[SynchroKnight]

Just noticing though, it seems like every civilization has the same glove symbol just different colors. Disappointing compared to the original 5 symbols, just saying.

[k-rick]

Originally Posted by Rezird

Definitely seems interesting. I'm still debating whether I should pick this up after 5 years since retiring from DM. Not to mention I'd have to re-invest a ton of money into it all over again.(Getting a playset of invi Hulcus was ridiculous)

Lol Dave, no one said you had to gather the biggest promo set of all time .

If you look at the art of the cards, which as Rocko stated is just as childish as Duel Masters' art was, it's going to be directed to a young population. We'll at least have prices cheaper than YGO and MTG I think.

Just noticing though, it seems like every civilization has the same glove symbol just different colors. Disappointing compared to the original 5 symbols, just saying.

Yes you're right, the glove symbols are all the same which is why I suggested that the watermark show what mana we have.

But symbols of the actual civilizations are very different. If you go to Kaijudo.com you'll see at least the symbols for Fire and Water civs. These symbols are still different from each other and indeed present under the mana cost of each card.

[Rezird]

Originally Posted by k-rick

Lol Dave, no one said you had to gather the biggest promo set of all time .

If you look at the art of the cards, which as Rocko stated is just as childish as Duel Masters' art was, it's going to be directed to a young population. We'll at least have prices cheaper than YGO and MTG I think.



Yes you're right, the glove symbols are all the same which is why I suggested that the watermark show what mana we have.

But symbols of the actual civilizations are very different. If you go to Kaijudo.com you'll see at least the symbols for Fire and Water civs. These symbols are still different from each other and indeed present under the mana cost of each card.

I have 30/60 holo in my deck, all of which come as promo are promo. (Including the hulcus playset) as well as 2 NYC Ucarns and a 3.2004 Ucarn, not to mention all the other stuff I have tucked away somewhere lol

[k-rick]

Hahah you're crazy man. I really didn't go too far outta my way for promos.

[BlazingSamurai24]

Originally Posted by Cardfighter 0

Looks like Evil Toy to me. Looking forward to this, although, I wish they used the name "Tatsurion, the Unchained".

I'm not sure what my take on the new layout is. I kind of like it...

Tatsurion the Unchained must be a evolution to Tatsurion?

[k-rick]

I don't think so. The way they described Tatsurion the Unchained on the website was the same way he's described there on the card. Could just be because they're promotional/first edition cards or something like that because Razorkinder doesn't have his full name there either.

Maybe they were just too long to fit lol.

[Chronomaster]

See? Hard information? Now I'm going positive on this game.

And I was probably right about the games not actually being logically different from one another (even if it was said otherwise. Business speak being what it is), which means you could casually mix and match the cards together from both games. inb4 someone says 'NO YOU CANT WIZARDS SAID' because what do I care when I'm not playing in organized play?

From this read, it's definitely a different meta to be sure. I'm satisfied that the core of the game will (appear to) be the same and not 'Americanized' or 'Simplified' or whatever happened to other Japanese games that radically changed their rulesets and made everything feel weird (See Bakugan and their third or fourth rules overhaul at this point). There's still more information that's needed (How is mana handled since our '1' indicator is missing?) but I'm highly looking forward to new information now.

It's worth suggesting that this product image probably isn't finalized. You can see odd things like ghosting in Razorkinder's name and cost, and unusual amounts of detail. At this point though, it's not likely that this is a mockup to misdirect people and that it's close to whatever the final product may be.

[k-rick]

Very plausible.

Although, we really cant tell what the meta will be like just from the description on two cards. And in reading what they've said about how long a game can take and what boosters will do to change gameplay, it really reminds me more of how DM was played in the US. Average game length was probably just over ten minutes (Match length, ie best 2/3 was a different story) and each set that was released did change the way the game was played and decks could be made.

[Vanguard Veteran]

I'm going to break this game set 1. RUB control will make the kiddies at locals cry.

[Rocko]

Originally Posted by Vanguard Veteran

I'm going to break this game set 1. RUB control will make the kiddies at locals cry.

Sadly.

I'd like to stick to my roots and run mono-nature (pun intended) but I may not get far with it.

[CVH]

Not seeing 3 civ control being the best during the simplified game state of the 1st set only. My bets are on WN and WD. Probably some other things too depending entirely on what kinds of cards we get, expecting it to be pretty diverse.