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Old 02-23-2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, Light and Darkness, This deck rules them all and with your skilled piloting you too can utilise the six attributes.

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Q. Can Solemn Warning negate Fusion Gate?
A. No! And here's why!

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When it comes to how it interacts with spell & trap cards, Solemn Warning needs to be chained directly to the activation of a card that activates with the possibility of performing a special summon as a result of a special summon, not simply the activation of an effect.
Now, this isn't a problem with Monster Reborn or Miracle Fusion, since a card is being activated to special summon.

However in the case of Fusion Gate, the card's activation itself isn't trying to special summon, so Solemn Warning can't be chained to it for that reason. Then when Fusion Gate's effect is activated later on, the card itself isn't being activated, so Solemn Warning can't be activated then either.
However, they can Bottomless Trap Hole the fusion summoned monster, and Royal Oppression CAN negate Fusion Gate.

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Now, Royal Oppression can negate this effect effect of Fusion Gate because it doesn't care about a spell or trap "card" itself being activated the way Solemn Warning does. Along with that, you can always negate it with continous effect like that of Spell Canceller.
Also, if they destroy Fusion Gate, by like MST or Dust, the fusion summon can't be performed.

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Also, since the effect is being generated by a face-up spell/trap card, that card needs to remain face-up on the field in order for the chain link to resolve with effect. This means that if you chain something like Gemini Spark or Raigeki Break to it's activation, the Fusion Summon won't be performed. No monsters will be removed from play however, as doing so is part of the card's effect, not a cost.
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It does not. From the rulebook, you can only Fusion Summon "If *you* have
all the materials listed on the Fusion Monster Card" unless the card
specifically says you can use an opposing monster, like with Super
Polymerization.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Parallel World Fusion

With this card, it says I can use materials that are banished. Does that
mean I can use my opponent's Elemental Heroes if he has any that are
banished?

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Old 02-23-2012, 10:44 AM   #2
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Why Hydrogeddon? I don't see you getting its effect often.
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:58 AM   #3
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Why Hydrogeddon? I don't see you getting its effect often.
I have been playing this build for 2 weeks now and i can sit down, look you in the eye and tell you that it's effect goes off in most of my games. Also having access to laggia is great because it makes your Fusion Gate plays much more secure.
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Old 02-23-2012, 11:26 AM   #4
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That's actually a good idea to use Hydrogeddon. Laggia would help some of the areas that the deck has issues with.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:33 PM   #6
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This deck needs more Royal Decree.
This deck needs more Tengu.
This deck could use TGU, but isn't needed.
This deck could use swords to help stall during the dead periods.

Also Hydrogeddon is a bad tech, if you can make laggia you should be able to OTK. Use Penguin Soldier instead, that card decimates most decks and lets you go into zero more often.

Insteresting tech cards for later this format are:
Mask Change and Masked Hero Acid

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If you give your opponent decree, gate swords, and a FD that's probably super poly without Heavy Storm they're going to have to prioritize on only a few of those targets.
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This deck needs more Royal Decree.
This deck needs more Tengu.
This deck could use TGU, but isn't needed.
This deck could use swords to help stall during the dead periods.

Also Hydrogeddon is a bad tech, if you can make laggia you should be able to OTK. Use Penguin Soldier instead, that card decimates most decks and lets you go into zero more often.

Insteresting tech cards for later this format are:
Mask Change and Masked Hero Acid

Think of it this way:

If you give your opponent decree, gate swords, and a FD that's probably super poly without Heavy Storm they're going to have to prioritize on only a few of those targets.
Your bad gtfo. Lmao.
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This deck needs more Royal Decree.
This deck needs more Tengu.
This deck could use TGU, but isn't needed.
This deck could use swords to help stall during the dead periods.
OMG lOLZ... Wait your serious.
Tengu should never be used in Heroes (besides its getting semi-limited anyway). Gate Heroes can't use TGU it requires too much deck dedication. Swords are bad this format period. Royal Decree is a side option though, I'll give you that one.
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OMG lOLZ... Wait your serious.
Tengu should never be used in Heroes (besides its getting semi-limited anyway). Gate Heroes can't use TGU it requires too much deck dedication. Swords are bad this format period. Royal Decree is a side option though, I'll give you that one.
Actually gate heroes CAN use TGU and it's very very effective. Leviair into stratos? Stall with Zenmaines? Set up BLS? Yes please! And i would use em. If i had them...

Decree is not needed with 2 lance, 2 mst and heavy in the side.
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I have an interesting suggestion for you.
-1 Pot of Duality
+1 Terra forming
Because you are heavily reliant on special summoning, plus this makes you less likely to open with double pot.
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You do realize that when you use Tengu in Gate heroes you bring out Tornado and then can proceed to make another, correct?
That was an OTK with Tengu at 3.

Heores don't need traps and battle phase traps are their worst enemy. Decree is smart as a main for heroes and always has been. In today's format all you need to do is give your opponent too many backrow targets and make them all improtant so decree won't nessicarily be the first target.

TGU does not require too much deck dedication, stop running decks with 10 monsters. Voltic can replace her, that's why she's optional.
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Actually gate heroes CAN use TGU and it's very very effective. Leviair into stratos? Stall with Zenmaines? Set up BLS? Yes please! And i would use em. If i had them...

Decree is not needed with 2 lance, 2 mst and heavy in the side.
It requires too much deck dedication in my experience in testing them (extra deck is really tight), that means you will need to find space for Leviair and zenmaines. I see in your build, you would take out your Hydrogeddon + grad mole for a set of TGU and a Sangan/tourbus, then take out Evolzar Laggia and Blade armor ninja/utopia for Leviair and zenmaines.
Granted you could go in zenmaines and stall, but there are increasing numbers of way to get around it. Leviair is just "win moar", your creating a play that isn't needed as you are usually gonna be getting it back with Shinning or voltic anyway.
Though a plus of using TGU is that you could make Escuridăo without using super poly.

@DIYDeath Battle phase traps aren't usually a problem as most (if not all) set off Absolute Zero's effect. Besides in this particular build with Forbidden Lance and double MST you will be getting attacks in easy enough.
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This is a very old build i used. Whatever the case it still proves my point.

Also noob face the tengu combo requires FIVE freaking cards. Either stop posting or stop posting garbage please.

Decree is really not needed in the main and with T.G. dead next format it won't be needed in the side either.

As for -1 POD +1 Terraforming that just lowers the consistency and leads to clogged hands. Dan and ish (a couple more very serious gate hero users) also came to this conclusion.

As for leviair being a win more? Your quite clueless. The amount of times my shining used to get bounced or banished leaving me on a -1/-2 was infuriating. Leviair grabs the banished stratos and allows you to come back from that. But now that i have lance and PWF in the deck it's no longer needed. As for using bls well i don't even need to say why that was good.
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I supposed I am biased against TGU.
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