ancient gear deck

[zombieswarm]

rate,change my deck.

Ancient Gear Beast 1. Machina Armored Unit
AG G dragon3. Terraforming 1
AG engineer 1. poly1
jinzo1. solidatary 1
AG 3. 　 Waboku 2
Ducker. bottomless2
set of gadgets 1. mirror 3
AG knight. magic hats 1
Emes 1. scrap scarecrow 1
AG cannon 1. trade in1
Pot of Avarice 1
mst2. Ancient Gear Golem&partner=POJO" class="hover" rel="http://www.pojo.biz/board/CardHover/hoverYGO.php?CN=Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem" target="new">Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem 1. I am a noob, okay?
AG castle 3
Gear town 3

Additional Comment:

oh, and i dont know why there are random words

[AcselOfDarkness]

That post is a mess (no offence). If you clear it up and order it so it makes sense I'll be happy to help but at the moment, it is just a mess. Split it into 3 lists of monsters, spells and traps and put the extra deck at the end. It'll be much easier to read.

As for the extra text, I think it is part of the automatic hyperlink for whatever card you were writing (Ancient Gear Golem I believe).

[zombieswarm]

monsters
Ancient Gear g dragon x3
Ancient Gear Golem x2
AG engineer x1
Jinzo x1
Ancient Gear x3
DUCKER Mobile Cannon x1
set of gadgets x1
AG knight x2
Emes infinity x1
AG cannon x2

spells
Pot of Avarice x1
MST x2
Ultimate Offering x1
AG castle x2
Gear town x3
Machina Armored Unit x1
solidatary x1
Polymerization. x1
Terraforming x1

traps
Covering Fire x2
Mirror Force x1
Magical Hats x1
Waboku x2
scrap iron scarecrow x1

Extra deck
Ancient Gear Golem&partner=POJO" class="hover" rel="http://www.pojo.biz/board/CardHover/hoverYGO.php?CN=Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem" target="new">Ultimate Ancient Gear Golem x1.

I know this deck sucks, okay?

Additional Comment:

oh, and one Ancient Gear factory

[AcselOfDarkness]

There is a lot of junk you don't need but it isn't overly bad, you've kept to 40 cards which is good and you have a lot of the necessary stuff. When I can get to a computer I'll post an in depth reply on what I'd change.

Pojo really doesn't like Ultimate-Ancient-Gear-Golem.

[potatochipcraft]

really. this deck is decent, but a lot of unessasary cards.

[zombieswarm]

Thank you, both of you. I wasn't expecting anything above "it sucks".

[AcselOfDarkness]

Telling you that your deck sucks doesn't help though. I know Pojo has a bad rep but in reality, it is actually a small minority that acts like that. Many of us are nice enough people.

As for fixes:
-1 DUCKER Mobile Cannon
-Gadgets
-Emes
-2 Cannon

-1 Ultimate Offering (It was in spells, shoudl have been under traps)
-1 Machina Armoured Unit
-1 Solidarity

-2 Covering Fire
-2 Waboku
-1 Scrap Iron

I know that is 15 cards and it looks a lot (although you could easily drop more) but it needs to go to make room for good stuff.

+2 Machina Fortress
+1 Machina Gearframe
+2 Genex Ally Birdman

+1 Limiter Removal
+1 Monster Reborn
+1 Dark Hole
+1 Heavy Storm

+2 Solemn Warning
+2 Solemn Judgment
+2 Torrential Tribute

These are by no means the perfect fixes so don't expect the deck to suddenly become tier 1. However they're enough to get the deck up to a decent standard and let you see how powerful you can be in your plays. When you have more decent stuff in the deck you can start fine Tuning it, dropping stuff you might not want or focusing more on other aspects (I can't see Poly and Ultimate Golem working much at the moment, you need to focus on them a bit more).

You also need to get yourself an extra deck. With Birdman you'll have some access to Synchros and you also have some access to Xyz.

Hopefully that'll be enough to start you off. If you want explanations on any of the changes, let me know and I'll be happy to fill you in.

[zombieswarm]

what synchros do you suggest? Oh, thanks for the suggestions. I only have access to cards once to twice a year, so I want to make the best decisions. I live in china, where there are only fake cards.

[AcselOfDarkness]

Stardust Dragon, Ally of Justice Catastor, Black Rose Dragon and Scrap Dragon are 4 big ones that are reasonably cheap. However you have more high level monsters so you'll probably be going into level 7 and 8 mostly. When it comes out, you might want to invest in the new Hieratic Sun Dragon tin (or at least Sun Dragon itself). It requires 2 level 8's to make which isn't difficult here and has a decent effect. Do you want me to post what an ideal decklist could look like?

[Jazriel]

Only time I've ever been able to make Ancient Gears work, is when we had triple reasoning. It'll be at 2 this September supposedly so give that a whirl.

[AcselOfDarkness]

What exactly did Reasoning bring to the deck to make it work? I'm kinda intrigued.

[zombieswarm]

Yes, I would like a deck list. Thanks for all the help you have given so far.

[AcselOfDarkness]

I'll post up some sort of ideal list later on then. In the mean time, this thread should be helpful and give you some ideas.

http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1035060

[zombieswarm]

Wow, great guide. I have one on and off topic question. Do you run ancient gears? And, my friend runs a pure water (forgot name) structure deck. However, I am a noob, and he has played for years, and he keeps beating me. He would never admit he uses a structure deck. He wouldn`t even admit you could only have 3 copies of a card in a deck. what should I tell him?

[AcselOfDarkness]

I have run Ancient Gears before but don't at the moment. I'm going to be building a variant that uses Lightray Daedalus to abuse Geartown but it can't really be called an Ancient Gear deck.

No offense to him but his deck can't be that good if it is just the Fury from the Deep structure deck, especially if he has been playing for years. If he is cheating with it or something (like using more than 3 of a card or more than is allowed by the banlist) them point it out in the rulebook. When you're deck is a bit better and you have had some practice with it, I'm sure you'll be able to beat him. Let it come as a surprise though. In the mean time, you can always using Dueling-Network to practice.

Additional Comment:

Ok, so this deck isn't going to be forever perfect but the formats shouldn't change so much that the deck actually becomes unplayable.

Monsters - 19
3 Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon
3 Ancient Gear Knight
2 Ancient Gear
2 Ancient Gear Soldier
1 Ancient Gear Golem
1 Ancient Gear Beast
1 Ancient Gear Engineer
2 Machina Fortress
1 Machina Gearframe
1 Unknown Synchron
2 Genex Ally Birdman

Spells - 13
1 Monster Reborn
1 Dark Hole
1 Heavy Storm
2 MST
3 Geartown
2 Ancient Gear Castle
1 Limiter Removal
1 Terraforming
1 Gemini Spark

Traps - 8
2 Solemn Warning
1 Solemn Judgment
2 Torrential Tribute
2 Compulsory Evacuation Device
1 Call Of The Haunted

Extra
1 Stardust Dragon
1 Scrap Dragon
1 Black Rose Dragon
1 Flamvell Uruquizas
1 Ally of Justice Catastor
1 Magical Android
1 Colossal Fighter
1 Thought Ruler Archfiend
1 Number 39: Utopia
1 Gachi Gachi Gantetsu
1 Hieratic Sun Dragon of Heliopolis

The line up for some cards would obviously change based on the banlist (namely you might find staples being moved around). You'll also find that you might want certain other cards, such as Bottomless Trap Hole over Compulsory, Torrential or Warning, etc. but these things will be worked out when you play the deck. For now I haven't posted a side deck since you won't really be using one. When you decide you want one, simply fill it with all the cards that hurt decks you are likely to face.

The extra deck isn't full since this isn't a particularly Synchro or Xyz focused deck. You can simply add in anything that you can use and summon if necessary. Realistically though, you could easily drop the 3 Tuners for 3 other cards and not bother with an extra deck if you wanted. Even Xyz aren't going to be super easy to summon here.

Very soon, there will be a new archetype coming out called Geargia. They are a machine archetype that function quite well as an engine and are great for Machine decks so you may decide you want to incorporate that instead. There are different ways to build the deck and this Beatdown/Control version is just one example. Another good archetype you could combine it with is Karakuri.

[zombieswarm]

Do you happen to know what monsters might be in the archetype? Or when wil it be out(doesn't matter if it's 5 months. The next time I'll have access to cards is in about a year)?

[AcselOfDarkness]

For Geargia there is:

Geargiaccelerator
Geargiano
Geargiano MK-II
Geargiarmor
Geargiarsenal

and the Xyz, Gear Gigant X which isn't actually part of the archetype (even though it does support it).

This is the wikia page on them where you'll be able to find the cards themselves and some tips.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Geargia

This is the one for Karakuri in case you were interested in them. There are loads more Karakuri cards.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Karakuri

The Geargia will be out in the next few weeks as they are released in the upcoming set Return of the Duelist (with exception to Geargiano). The Karakuri have all been released (unless we get new stuff).

[zombieswarm]

would machina or geargia be better?

Additional Comment:

　wait ,sorry. I should go to another section. Nevermind my question

[AcselOfDarkness]

It doesn't really matter, you are going off topic and it is your thread.

If you mean which is better to combine with Ancient Gears, it depends what you want. Machina adds power while Geargia adds speed and consistency. Machina is cheaper but speed and consistency is more important. There is also the possibility that more Geargia stuff will be released where Machina is probably done.

[CrowBlack]

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