another self righteous jerk stating his opinion

[the master samurai]

8 on my list where hit, considering most of the lists have 3 or 4 right, I'd say that's pretty good. Nukm4, just because a card is at one doesn't mean it's as good(or that Konami thinks its as good) as another card that is at 1. That's just flawed reasoning. Look at any ban list. There are always banned cards that are better than other banned, limited that are better than other limited, and same for semi.

[GlandiatorBeast94]

Originally Posted by the master samurai

thats what everyone here does. i hate this format, i and many of my friends have pretty much quit yugioh. we still play casually sometimes. so heres what i think should and needs to be done. (i may update it later as cards come to mind)so as for new banned cards:

Gorz
Tragodia
Black luster solder
Red MD
wind up hunter
Future Fusion
Mind Control

limited:
Solemn Warning
Royal Decree
wind up zenmaity
inzektor hornet
inzector dragonfly
Mask Change
sheins smoke signal
tour guide
recue rabbit(or banned)
chaos sorc
grapha
gateway to DW
maybe some dragons...

semi
mst
judgement dragon

i think the semi list is pretty good as it stands so not many changes. now my reasons

gorz- game changing. huge attack plus a monster whos attack is probably equal to the opponents biggest monster. i have seen this card win so many games single handedly, its not even funny. and can be hard to negate.

tragodia- similar to gorz, can get huge attack, and makes xyzing with your opponents monster too easy

black luster soldier- i don't even need to explain but i will. what the hell was konami thinking? way too broken and it can and will change almost any game where it exists. check the featured matches. if someone draws it, they win 9/10.

red MD- chaos dragons are just too broken this format. they need to be hit. its also easy to get out, has an amazing effect, and is pretty huge.

wind up hunter- this card makes the game not fun. the game comes down to a coin toss, so whoever goes first. the loop is just annoying, takes no skill, and is rather broken. the noob says, "i don't have any skill, so i'll make it so you have no cards to play"

future fusion- just another hit to dragons.

royal decree- wrecks to many decks when people side it in.

mind control- too much xyzing

solemn warning- because 1 is enough, honestly

zenmaity- just because i hate the loop so much

inzektor hornet- even 1 seems to much, but the deck shouldnt die as a whole.... probaly

inzecktor dragonfly- because i didnt ban hornet. the deck still probably dies...

mask change- bubble heroes are too annoying right now, plus it makes for an easy otk

shiens smoke signal- one is enough. we samurai players dont need 2. it's nice, but sometimes that extra 1 wins the game flat out.

tourguide- makes people play something else in dino rabbits besides the standard 3 tourguides. Sangan can get you the rank 3. too easy to bring back the rabbit as it is. also hurts wind ups

rescue rabbit- too easy to get a first turn amazing xyz, and easy to bring back. why do you even need 3?

chaos sorc- because everyone runs 2 if theyu run 1, usually

grapha and gateway- i hate DW, i would say mroe than just this, but meh, dont feel like explaining

mst- with night shot, 2 is enough. we have enough back row hate. i dont even use it in most decks, though. its just kind of annoying.

judgement dragon- i just hate it when my opponet summons 1, nukes the field(even if i destroy it), or its negated, then they summon another, nuke the field(if i negated the first one), ss another and the ss BLS or chaos sorc and OTK. but i love pulling magatama on JD

I agree with almost the whole banlist other than there needs to be at least 1 Gorz or Trag. The reason I say this is if you are currently losing. Your opponent has 3 monsters on the field attacking directly how are you supposed to comeback? Top deck Dark Hole? Top Deck Monster Reborn? Set a trap and end your turn and hopefully they don't Heavy Storm or MST or use a monster effect that destroys one spell or trap? There needs to be a way to recover and having a Gorz and/or a Trag in a deck gives you that time to recover.

Most of the limited I agree with except Tour Guide, Chaos Sorcerer and Zenmaity. Tour Guide should stay at 2 because you have the search of Sangan and 1 other Tour Guide. So either way you really can make either 1 rank 3 that requires 2 level 3 monsters or 1 rank 3 monster that requires 3 level 3 monsters. Taking away another Tour Guide takes away that option and Konami is at least smart on that. Chaos Sorcerer I think should stay at 2 if BLS is gone because of the following. BLS is broken, plain and simple, I can either attack twice or remove 1 monster on the field, it doesn't matter if it's face down or face up. But also the cost. While Chaos Sorcerer requires the same cost it can only remove face up monsters. Which if you have a Chaos Sorcerer on the field most opponents will not summon a monster face up unless they know they will gain something out of it. Zenmaity could stay at 2 maybe even 3 if Wind Up Hunter is gone because that was the big problem in the deck. Or at least that's how I see it.

MST to 2 is fine, especially since we have Heavy Storm and we are going into a slower format which will see more traps in every deck I whole heartily agree. Judgment Dragon to 2 honestly doesn't hurt me that much and I see it like this. Most Lightsworn decks only run 1 Gold Sarc so they can only search one out of three JDs currently. Then if another is milled I have 2 Beckonings and 1 Monster Reincarnation in my deck to get it back. Putting JD to 2 really just gives me one more spot to either put in that new Necro I can now put into the deck or something else. The way I see it is it really doesn't hurt the deck too much, I just can't OTK with 3 JDs on the field and show off.

[the master samurai]

gladiatorbeast94, if you didn't know the new banlist is out. chaos sorc is to 1 and zenmaity is also to 1. zenmaity is rather broken with rampant SS, even without hunter. but hunter is still at 3. hopefully wind ups will see less play with zenmaity at 1, but probably not. you can still do a lot with the 1.

[Neverwish]

Originally Posted by the master samurai

8 on my list where hit, considering most of the lists have 3 or 4 right, I'd say that's pretty good. Nukm4, just because a card is at one doesn't mean it's as good(or that Konami thinks its as good) as another card that is at 1. That's just flawed reasoning. Look at any ban list. There are always banned cards that are better than other banned, limited that are better than other limited, and same for semi.

8? That's counting all cards on the list that were hit, but ignoring their place on the list. You don't exactly get a hit right by putting REDMD on Forbidden, you know.

[StrappingYoungLaDD]

You have any idea how bad the game would be with storm and no gorz? There would be no reason not to go for an otk every single game.

[GlandiatorBeast94]

Originally Posted by the master samurai

gladiatorbeast94, if you didn't know the new banlist is out. chaos sorc is to 1 and zenmaity is also to 1. zenmaity is rather broken with rampant SS, even without hunter. but hunter is still at 3. hopefully wind ups will see less play with zenmaity at 1, but probably not. you can still do a lot with the 1.

I know it's out. If you didn't know this is a banlist the thread starter said he would make to balance the game. In other words a fictional banlist, smh.

[the master samurai]

i AM the TC

[T-REX]

Being a TC isn't a good thing you know...

[mudkip66]

Originally Posted by Suibon

Then it is perhaps the time for a purgative. If we do not act now, then we will never act, as we continue to ignore the all-too-white elephants stomping around the room and content ourselves with the false bliss of what is essentially more sophisticated beatdown.

For some reason when I read that I heard Morgan Freeman's voice.............

[Chaotic Burn]

You keep Heavy Storm at 1 and all you do is semi-limit MST?

For a wish list, it's pretty bad. Why 1 Chaos Sorcerer? Put him to 2-3 without BLS.

WHY is Gorz banned?

Your list doesn't make the game better at all.

[Little_Goten]

. . . Why are you banning Tragoedia?

[kazu]

Stopped reading on Trageodia banned.

Enjoy your life

[mudkip66]

Trag and Gorz banned?